About to get my new 3500cc/drw 2006 and am seekinga dvice re where to buy fuel. Is diesel fuel from any truck stop okay? Are there specific companies that offer diesel at normal gas stations and are there any that I need to stay away from?:confused:

Generally, any fuel station that goes through a high volume of diesel fuel is fine..the ones you want to avoid are the small town stations that get diesel fuel once every 3 months or so...
Welcome to the forum by the way..:welcome:

Never fill up when the tanker truck is there. Good advice for diesel and gas owners. When the tanker truck fills the tank, the incoming fuel stirs up the sediment in the storage tank.:eek:

Thanks for the advice, guys. My first diesel, so I am trying to be careful about these things.:)
Herb

It is also a good Idea to carry a spare fuel filter with you at all times, you never know when you might need one!!

Never fill up when the tanker truck is there. Good advice for diesel and gas owners. When the tanker truck fills the tank, the incoming fuel stirs up the sediment in the storage tank.:eek:

:exactly: Truck stop diesel is just fine.

Bill

Just becareful some truck stops do not add treatment for cold weather.

How many of you guys use additives, my buddy has a cummings (shame theres a dodge wrapped around it) and he uses fuel additives on every fill. Is this really necessary?

How many of you guys use additives, my buddy has a cummings (shame theres a dodge wrapped around it) and he uses fuel additives on every fill. Is this really necessary?

No. The only time I have used additives is with older diesel engines (usually 150k+ miles).

Bill

With the higher injection pressures of the newer diesels and lower sulfur I add the additives to my tank every tank as well. Probably overkill but for no more than it costs I do it.

At the truck stop I regularly fill up at, there's almost always a tanker there... but, it just tells me I'm not getting old diesel. 20k miles and no problems.

For what its worth... I have ALWAYS used BP premium diesel (47+ cetane) in my truck. I was in a bind the other day so I filled up with diesel at a moderate volume Mobil station on US Highway 83. The truck seemed to lose all power, started blowing white smoke at full throttle, and gas mileage dropped a ton.

The problem seems to have gone away now with a fresh tank of BP premium

My Son drives Dodge Diesels (rebellious little bastard) and saves his fuel receipts. Bought a tank full of bad fuel that stalled him out. With proof of purchase in hand, fuel dealer paid for all repairs and tow bill plus provided him with a rental vehicle while his was in shop. Don't know how many would do this but getting a receipt and keeping it for awhile may be a good idea.

My Son drives Dodge Diesels (rebellious little bastard) and saves his fuel receipts. Bought a tank full of bad fuel that stalled him out. With proof of purchase in hand, fuel dealer paid for all repairs and tow bill plus provided him with a rental vehicle while his was in shop. Don't know how many would do this but getting a receipt and keeping it for awhile may be a good idea.

That's a great idea. I'll start doing that now. Thanks...Carmine

That's a great idea. I'll start doing that now. Thanks...Carmine

Not to change the subject but I rarely see Carmine post. Carmine, how's the LBZ running after all the problems you had. Mike Z

Most fuels come from the same place or two regardless of what station they are in. I'm not sure of the terminals in your area but Chevron runs about the stricktest terminals as far as QC goes. This Chevron fuel may be found at BP or even some mom and pop places. The terminals supply stations usually through a broker.Branding of fuel is not important. Do not fuel your vehichle while delivery is being made to the tank you are pulling from, it will indeed stir up sediment but more importantly water and that fuel needs to set about an hour per inch of fuel in a 20k gal tank. The volume of fuel sales does not need to be high to ensure good fuel. Diesel will store for alomost a year before breaking down. How the station maintains thier QC is important and that is hard to determine. Certain discount stations also buy fuels from the cheapest terminal making it hit or miss on the quality. Play it safe and try to only buy from the major oil co. stations.

I just got some fuel from a BP station where I always get my diesel and it changed over to the ULSD and the MPG seems to be lower than before, not happy:(

I get mine from a heavily travelled Pilot station near my house. I have about 8k on the truck and have not had any issues. I use 8 oz of PS every other fill up also because in the fine state of Ohio the stations do not have to post the minimum cetane rating of the fuel. :eek: Was going to replace my fuel filter this past weekend to verify how good there fuel is but my strap wrench wasn't big enough.

Thanks,

Scott

What about the stickers on diesel pumps that state the use in 2007 and newer may cause damage,anybody know about this.

What about the stickers on diesel pumps that state the use in 2007 and newer may cause damage,anybody know about this.

I was talking to a fellow with a '05 Dmax yesterday and we both were wondering the same thing. Just noticed the stickers a week or so ago, but not sure what they meant. Any clues?

I use stanadyne additive for lubricity and cetane improvement since late 1994 when I had some injector problems with my first diesel pick up a dodge cummins. Sold the dodge for the original LLY and now own the LBZ and remained with Stanadyne. For what it's worth and given the relative cheap cost of the additive if you buy it in bulk, it simply can't hurt and may provide a real benefit although many here will say it's overkill and unnessary.

Welcome to the forum and good luck with your new truck.

Just wanted to thank you all for the kind advice.

I now have the 2006 LBZ 3500 dooly and have put about 500 on it; mileage so far was 15.3 mpg (fuel added to fill up & miles since first fill-up). Did mix of city, road & highway driving, mostly level, weather hot here in Ft. Collins. CO. Absolutely love this truck! My old '92 suburban is jealous! (182 K miles and runs like new!)

It will be a week or more before I tow the 5er (97 NuWa SE102 33+2, GVW @ 14,000). I want to get a few more miles of break in before pulling the rig. Tomorrow I will outfit it with ezrider + reese 16K hitch and other goodies to get ready for towing. Need to add a CB and am waiting for the Edge A2@ with GPS and backup cam rig to be available for the LBZ. Standard tires and muffler so far.

This is fun! Haven't yet heard if I am a member of the Dooly Club: who do I contact about this?

I just got back from a 2,900 mile round trip to Florida and I noticed that every time I filled up at a Pilot truck stop my fuel mileage DROPPED 1.5 MPG for every tank full of Pilot fuel. -I averaged just over 19.4 mpg hand calculated, driving empty for the 2,900 miles and running 70 - 75 MPH whenever possible. Every tank full was filled right to the lip on the filler neck. Would have gotten better fuel economy if I didn't use Pilot diesel fuel. Has anyone else noticed a difference in mileage depending on what brand of diesel fuel they burned?

I have used Stanadyne Performance Formula Fuel Treatment on every tank full ever since I picked up my truck from the dealer with 10 miles on the odometer. I now have almost 9,000 miles on my stock LBZ. Other than a water leak from the cab running lights that was fixed by my dealer the same day I found it, I have had no problems with this truck.

I am a driver manager for Swift Transportation and considering we have 20,000+/- tractors fuel milage is a big concern.....I recently read a report that mentioned getting better MPG depending which station you fueled from....its been a while since i read it...but the jist of the article was this: the average temperature of the fuel as it left the nozzle and entered the trucks was higher at some stations that others, often depended on if the tanks were above ground or below... IIRC the higher the temperature was, the worse the MPG was...like I said its been a while, but I believe it had something to do with the higher temperature ment that some of the caloric enrgy had already been expended...just for what its worth

I also noticed a mileage drop on my second tank of gas when I got my truck. After the first tank of gas from the dealer, I decided to get the cheapest diesel I could from a thrifty gas station here in Ca. BIG MISTAKE!!! The mileage dropped at least 2 mpg. Anyone here in Cali. have that same problem??

Ask 100 people, get 101 opinions...

The 2 times I have gotten BAD diesel, it has been from truck stops. Interesting or coincidentally, both were along I-75.

I use two high volume dealers that are not truck stops when I fuel locally. Both have been great. When travelling away from home I use the truck stops.

I am a driver manager for Swift Transportation and considering we have 20,000+/- tractors fuel milage is a big concern.....I recently read a report that mentioned getting better MPG depending which station you fueled from....its been a while since i read it...but the jist of the article was this: the average temperature of the fuel as it left the nozzle and entered the trucks was higher at some stations that others, often depended on if the tanks were above ground or below... IIRC the higher the temperature was, the worse the MPG was...like I said its been a while, but I believe it had something to do with the higher temperature ment that some of the caloric enrgy had already been expended...just for what its worth

A higher temp would mean the fuel has expanded so you get less mass in a gallon than at cold temperatures. You don't expend some of the energy when it warms its just a bigger volume now.

I did notice once that after a Pilot station fill the MPG stated to drop but just put that down to changing conditions after the fill up.

Just wanted to thank you all for the kind advice.

I now have the 2006 LBZ 3500 dooly and have put about 500 on it;
This is fun! Haven't yet heard if I am a member of the Dooly Club: who do I contact about this?

If you post in the club thread just wait a bit... They will get to it in time :)

Welcome to the club!

I just got back from a 2,900 mile round trip to Florida and I noticed that every time I filled up at a Pilot truck stop my fuel mileage DROPPED 1.5 MPG for every tank full of Pilot fuel. -I averaged just over 19.4 mpg hand calculated, driving empty for the 2,900 miles and running 70 - 75 MPH whenever possible. Every tank full was filled right to the lip on the filler neck. Would have gotten better fuel economy if I didn't use Pilot diesel fuel. Has anyone else noticed a difference in mileage depending on what brand of diesel fuel they burned?

Wife and I went to Va. on Memorial Day weekend and I filled up at our house with Pilot and then in W. Va. I filled up with Flying J diesel. I noticed better MPG on that tank ( 3/4 tank ) of fuel but I figured that was due to the temp outside as it was a little hotter and diesels getter better MPG's as the temp goes up. I have filled up ( 1/2 tank ) with BP a few times and my MPG does'nt seem to waver from 17 - 20 MPG.

I have found staying out of the throttle is the best medicine. ):h

Thanks,

Scott

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