It is being said that GM will be raising the prices on their diesel trucks in 07 to cover emissions costs. The same emissions are going to have to be adhered to by all manufacturers, so are Ford and Dodge raising their prices as well, and if so is it as steep of a raise as GM?

It is being said that GM will be raising the prices on their diesel trucks in 07 to cover emissions costs. The same emissions are going to have to be adhered to by all manufacturers, so are Ford and Dodge raising their prices as well, and if so is it as steep of a raise as GM?
I would think so, they can't absorb the costs just as GM can't ;)

Hmm, I just read where Ford has not increased the prices on their 07 diesel trucks, the 06's have more rebates on them though. They are also introducing a new truck/engine in Jan 07, but the current truck is now being built as an 07 with no price hike. How can GM get away with a $2800 jump if other barnds are not going to follow suite? They are also offering A LOT more rebates then GM. I just do not want a Ford. :damnit1:

According to what I've read and have been told, the Duramax is already about 80% clean enough to meet the '07 emission standards. The price increase will be $1500 for smog stuff. Ford will be about twice (or more) that much. And Dodge will be about $5,000, plus they're making the engine lbigger to make up for lost power.

As the year wears on and we get closer to 2007, those numbers could easily change as more and more information is available.

Better buy them while you can, got this info off another site:

DETROIT -- General Motors plans a series of expensive changes to its Duramax V-8 engine to cope with tough U.S. diesel emission rules taking effect Jan. 1.

GM says reworking the 6.6-liter diesel, which powers heavy-duty versions of the Chevrolet (http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32841#) Silverado and GMC Sierra pickups, won't interrupt production. But the modifications are expected to sharply increase the cost of building the engine.

Heavy-duty trucks (http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32841#) with a gross vehicle weight rating of as much as 10,000 pounds must meet the Tier 2 Bin 5 emissions standards. The new rules call for a 90 percent reduction of oxides of nitrogen, or NOx, and particulate matter, or soot.

GM will significantly revamp the emissions system of the Duramax, which also is used in full-sized vans and commercial vehicles. GM Powertrain spokeswoman Susan Garavaglia said the diesel will meet the 2007 regulations with:

>> A new variable geometry turbocharger.

>> Enhanced exhaust gas recirculation.

>> Closed crankcase ventilation system.

>> Changes to the exhaust system that include an oxidizing catalytic converter (http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32841#) to clean NOx emissions and a particulate filter to lower soot.

Diesel particulate filters, first used in Europe in 2005 on Peugeot and Citroen vehicles, will land in America for the first time on diesel versions of the Mercedes-Benz E320 and the Jeep Grand Cherokee (http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32841#) coming this fall.

The new Duramax developed to meet the emissions regulation won't be available until Jan. 1.

GM's upgrades won't be cheap. The particulate filter and oxidizing catalytic converter, for example, could add at least $3,000 to the cost of building the truck (http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32841#).

The estimate is based on hardware costs for older diesels that have been retrofitted with filters and related equipment. GM won't confirm the figures.

Demand is strong for GM's diesel trucks (http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32841#). Capacity from the lone Moraine, Ohio, plant that builds the engine is limited to about 180,000 units a year. Because the Duramax has built a reputation for being smooth, quiet and reliable, GM sells out of diesel trucks each year and gets close to sticker prices, which start at about $30,000 and can go as high as $50,000.

GM's technical solutions differ from what sources say Ford (http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32841#) Motor Co., Volkswagen (http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32841#) and DaimlerChrysler plan for diesel powerplants in the United States. Ford will launch a revamped Power Stroke diesel truck engine in the first quarter of 2007 that uses piezoelectric fuel injectors.

Piezo injectors enable an engine to run cleaner by producing less NOx in the combustion chamber. Particulate filters reduce NOx in the exhaust system.

Chrysler group officials won't comment on what changes the Dodge Ram diesel will get for the 2007 model year. But spokesman Nick Cappa said that Mercedes-Benz's Bluetec diesel emissions system, a suite of technologies that includes traps and filters and urea injection -- also will be used on Chrysler group vehicles. Urea systems shoot an ammonialike acid into the exhaust pipes, radically reducing NOx.

At least two automakers are pulling diesel vehicles out of the United States until they can meet the new standard. The Chrysler group ended production of the Jeep Liberty diesel May 31, even though the small SUV (http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32841#) has surpassed sales expectations.

The Liberty could be back with a cleaner diesel engine in 2008 when it gets a face-lift and is re-engineered, sources say.

Volkswagen plans to build up an inventory of about 10,000 diesel Jettas between now and Dec. 31 and sell leftover 2006 models while it retools its diesel fuel injection system (http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32841#).

The 2006 Jetta and the Touareg SUV will be the only VW diesels in the lineup in 2007.

Thanks Kurt for the info, again we can thank the tree hugging freaks for all of this garbage-:t

I for one like my diesel, like trees and prefer clean air to breath. I'm NOT a FREAK !

I for one like my diesel, like trees and prefer clean air to breath. I'm NOT a FREAK !
No ones against clean air or water just the fact that environmentalist go way over board with this stuff where as the rest of the world could care less and it's costing Americans tons of money.

No ones against clean air or water just the fact that environmentalist go way over board with this stuff where as the rest of the world could care less and it's costing Americans tons of money.

Exactly, I think more tree huggers should realize that the rest of the world is doing alot more damage then us americans are. Look at how much their cars smoke. Its unfair that there are people out there that want to complain about this and that. One other important fact those freaks should realize is the more emmissions crap we have the less MPG's. I don't think can ever be any going back. Hopefully they will be happy with what they've got and more keep forcing more and more.