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PLM-1
05-28-2006, 02:12 AM
I am looking for a fuel transfer tank with the toolbox. What are the good brands? I would like to have a black one, most i find are polished ATP.

haulin-rv
05-28-2006, 08:32 AM
I have an RDS 90 gallon combo, quality is good and they are not that expensive. I guy I haul with had his sprayed with bed liner black, it looks pretty cool. If you want one I am thinking of trying something different and may sell mine, pm me if interested.

gardnerteam
05-28-2006, 09:04 AM
Lots of choices - do a search. Whatever you do, do not buy a KSM tank (Lake Havasu, AZ) as they do not honor their statements, tank leaked 3 times, and they are impossible to deal with. 6 months to get a tank fixed the third time after they promised a new one. My current tank is a Transferflow 100 gal, expensive, but worth every penny of it. Beat the hell out of it in Mexico last month and it performed flawlessly. Over a 2,000 mile range, which meant I did most of my driving on Mexican 2.00 diesel rather than 3.15 prices. I had Transferflow install this one and couldn't be happier with either their service or their quality.

RickDLance
05-28-2006, 09:12 AM
I have 2 of the RDS tanks and they're good stuff.:)

Kampzite
05-28-2006, 10:16 AM
Try here, http://www.zylstraauto.com/. I have one of their tank/toolbox combos and I really like it. Go to my Garage to see photos..:exactly:

PLM-1
05-28-2006, 11:52 AM
I've seen the RDS combos in the Northerntool catalog. They look pretty decent. Is Fill-Rite about the best 12v transfer pump?

Does anybody have a tank from TSC or Atwoods?

RickDLance
05-28-2006, 06:33 PM
I use a recon. holley blue. I transfer while driving. 5 min run time will add 1/4 tank+ to the OEM tank.:)

coyotekid
05-29-2006, 12:55 AM
You might also check out www.attatank.com. I believe Sideswiper on the forum has one of their tanks. They look great to me, but I've never used one.

I'm also in the market for a transfer/aux tank because I burn one hell of a lot of diesel these days between my mowing/landscaping business and the Dmax pulling my gooseneck cargo trailer.

I just bought $450 of diesel last Thursday to fill my bulk tank at home, and I'll be through that in short order. I burn about $180 of fuel a week for work!

coyotekid
05-29-2006, 01:00 AM
Oh, also...Is there anything wrong with having an aux tank for the pickup and also using it as a transfer tank to refuel my mowers? I don't see many doing this, but I'd think you'd be able to rig something up using just one pump?

sideswiper
05-29-2006, 09:25 AM
im using the atta tank,but it is not a tranfer tank.it plumbs into the fuel lines and i switch from the factory tank to the aux tank with the flip of a switch.i had a tranfer tank but i got tired of having to get out and refuel in the rain.

Kampzite
05-29-2006, 10:38 AM
im using the atta tank,but it is not a tranfer tank.it plumbs into the fuel lines and i switch from the factory tank to the aux tank with the flip of a switch.i had a tranfer tank but i got tired of having to get out and refuel in the rain.
My tank is plumbed into the filler neck, all I do is flip a switch on the dash to fill my oe tank from the one in the bed.

sideswiper
05-29-2006, 12:43 PM
My tank is plumbed into the filler neck, all I do is flip a switch on the dash to fill my oe tank from the one in the bed.
that does not sound DOT legal and i use my truck for hire.not to mention it sounds like a fire hazard in case of rollover.

RickDLance
05-29-2006, 01:54 PM
Ours are that way also. DOT hasn't said anything yet.:)

Captain-A
05-29-2006, 06:21 PM
I have the RDS 60gal. toolbox combo & love it. Mine also plumbed to tank. In weight stations all the time. No problems yet. If in rollover you have alot more to worry about than fuel.

sideswiper
05-29-2006, 06:34 PM
burning to death is a pretty big worry.sure you can probably get away with it.hell,i had a dot officer ask me if i had to run a log book.i had a dot officer in lousinana ask to see my fuel stamp,i told him i wasnt buying fuel in la.so he let me go.haha.and you can do what you want.but i feel safer knowing i have a rollover valve and not a piece of hose shoved in my filler neck.maybe you should braise a fitting in that neck and put a rollover valve on the tank.that would be safer.

RickDLance
05-29-2006, 07:12 PM
Mine has a spring loaded check valve set at 3 psi. Without power to the pump you get nothing for flow. It is tee'd into the vent tube down at the tank. Seemed pretty safe at the time. I also have the roll over valve on the vent. The RDS tank comes standard with that.:)

sideswiper
05-29-2006, 09:13 PM
Mine has a spring loaded check valve set at 3 psi. Without power to the pump you get nothing for flow. It is tee'd into the vent tube down at the tank. Seemed pretty safe at the time. I also have the roll over valve on the vent. The RDS tank comes standard with that.:)i knew you wernt as dangerous as you were letting on):h

davey1028
05-29-2006, 09:37 PM
I have an RDS 60 gallon tank and I like it. It is gravity fed through the vent hose. It does not always feed the way it should. Example; When I fiill the main tank and the 60 gallon tank. (Actually I have yet to put 60 gallons in the tank, more like 53) it draws the tank down fine. BUT, when the main tank is full and I put 1/4 tank in the aux fuel tank. It may take a while for it to go down to the main. WTF. Still happy with it.

cgreen
05-29-2006, 11:02 PM
that does not sound DOT legal and i use my truck for hire.not to mention it sounds like a fire hazard in case of rollover.

All the FMSCA regs say is that you can't plumb a gravity feed tank directly into a carb in fuel injector. You can gravity feed into your regular fuel tank, and therefore is not gravity fed directly into an injector.

Kampzite
05-29-2006, 11:47 PM
Mine has a spring loaded check valve set at 3 psi. Without power to the pump you get nothing for flow. It is tee'd into the vent tube down at the tank. Seemed pretty safe at the time. I also have the roll over valve on the vent. The RDS tank comes standard with that.:)
So does mine, it is DOT approved, the hose isn't just stuck into the filler tube, there is a whole other fillerneck piece that is installed with all the valves , ect..
Plus the only time I ever roll over is when my wife tells me to.:rolleyes:

elipoppin
05-30-2006, 04:33 AM
Can someone please explain exactly how to tap into the fuel filler hose.....What parts to use etc.

My tank has an in tank pump/sender with 2 fittings on the top of it...one is vent and one is output....i have a vent hole next to it that has a rollover valve and 2 hose fittings on it ( one of the barbs is broken) ...Can I just cap this second hole and use just the pump out and pump vent? Is there another/better method I could be using to tap this in?

Tank is an older transferflow tool box combo....It had gas in it when I bought it but i have cleaned it all out...Now I need to find a bigger filler/cap attachment for the diesel pumps to work....sometimes buying used is just a pain in the ***.

Kampzite
05-30-2006, 07:01 PM
Can someone please explain exactly how to tap into the fuel filler hose.....What parts to use etc.

My tank has an in tank pump/sender with 2 fittings on the top of it...one is vent and one is output....i have a vent hole next to it that has a rollover valve and 2 hose fittings on it ( one of the barbs is broken) ...Can I just cap this second hole and use just the pump out and pump vent? Is there another/better method I could be using to tap this in?

Tank is an older transferflow tool box combo....It had gas in it when I bought it but i have cleaned it all out...Now I need to find a bigger filler/cap attachment for the diesel pumps to work....sometimes buying used is just a pain in the ***.

Contact these guys (http://www.zylstraauto.com/) and see if they can steer you to the right part number for the replacement filler neck parts you need to re-plumb your fuel tank/toolbox...Good luck!

noleveyor
05-30-2006, 11:31 PM
Do any of the tank toolbax combos leave enough room for a fifth wheel hitch in a Crew Cab Short Bed? I would like to add fuel capacity but not at the risk of losing the room I need for the hitch.

Can you turn the transfer pumps on without worrying about them overfilling the OEM tank?

RickDLance
05-31-2006, 08:34 AM
I have my tranfer pump on a timer.:) Before the timer I pumped fuel on the ground several times!:(

Kampzite
05-31-2006, 11:39 AM
Do any of the tank toolbax combos leave enough room for a fifth wheel hitch in a Crew Cab Short Bed? I would like to add fuel capacity but not at the risk of losing the room I need for the hitch.

Can you turn the transfer pumps on without worrying about them overfilling the OEM tank?
Go to my Garage and look at the photos of my box and fifthwheel hitch, I had the older slide rail hitch and did have to cut about a half inch from the rails to make it fit. The newer hitches don't run the length of the truck so should give you plenty of room.
On the overfilling part, I am usually pretty good at watching it, but for those times I have forgotten, the fuel overflows back into the toolbox tank through the vent lines...The one mistake I made was opening my fuel cap after putting too much in and ended dropping about a quart down the side of my truck and had a mess to clean up on my garage floor.

hhead
05-31-2006, 10:16 PM
Do any of the tank toolbax combos leave enough room for a fifth wheel hitch in a Crew Cab Short Bed? I would like to add fuel capacity but not at the risk of losing the room I need for the hitch.

Can you turn the transfer pumps on without worrying about them overfilling the OEM tank?
I have an areotank transfer fuel/ tool box. it sits below the rail. no problem. it holds 45 gal. but i guess a 5'er is diff than a GN
they're in ca if you go to my garage, on the white truck with the flatbed. on one of the pics, you can see how it sits below the rail.
And no, it doesn't stop on it's own. you can actually here the echo of the tank filling up. so you know when you're close. I learned this, after having about 1/2 gal come flowing out when I wasn't paying attention. mine's is still, pull over and fill er up.

PLM-1
05-31-2006, 11:09 PM
I'm more talking about the transfer tank to move fuel from the tank in the back of the truck, to a piece of equipment; not necessarily an aux. tank.

noleveyor
05-31-2006, 11:23 PM
I'm more talking about the transfer tank to move fuel from the tank in the back of the truck, to a piece of equipment; not necessarily an aux. tank.

RDS, UWS (United Welding Supply) American Aluminum and CDI (Custom Design Industries) all make transfer tanks for fueling equipment to serve the logging industry where they are located (Perry, FL). I am sure they have what you need. They even make custom setups. All of their manufacturing plants are located within a mile of each other in Perry.

hhead
06-03-2006, 01:06 AM
I'm more talking about the transfer tank to move fuel from the tank in the back of the truck, to a piece of equipment; not necessarily an aux. tank.
wait. that's what i got, a transfer tank with a pump to fuel other equipment!
aeroflow makes both kits. I should have clarified. my buddy's is automatic, he did his 04 ford with the 60 gallon. I really never asked him how the gauge works or such. I believed they installed it for like $125.

RickDLance
06-03-2006, 09:11 AM
I have a garden hose adapter on the outgoing side of my pump. It does double duty!:) Takes a while to fill the Bobcat, but definately better then the hand pump! I'll try to get some picks for you guys.:)

hhead
06-03-2006, 10:52 AM
electirc pump. 16 gals/min. that's why I overfilled the truck tank the first time. a couple of minutes and I'm on the road again!

RickDLance
06-03-2006, 11:16 AM
I never stop, unless of course the big tank goes MT. I tried it your way, but it seemed like everytime I needed fuel it was either raining or snowing!:) I think mother nature was mad at me!):h

hhead
06-03-2006, 01:23 PM
maybe mother nature is feeling sorry for your rig, and trying to cool it off!:lol:
Plus, I figure after 300+ miles, I need to get out of the seat anyway!

RickDLance
06-03-2006, 11:36 PM
Well here the pic. Like I said I have a five minute timer on it and I carry around a cheap garden hose just in case.

elipoppin
06-06-2006, 01:57 AM
I had asked for someone to explain how exactly they plumbed their aux tank into the filler hose but never got a reply.....So here is how Jay @ Williams Oil Filter in Tacoma, Wa set me up.....He made me a 2" "T" with two hose barbs brazed into it.....The lower of the two barbs has a hose on it that I ran down the inside of the outer vent tube into the tank for filling (the outlet side of my in tank pump). The upper hose barb is for my vent that goes back to the aux tank. I had pondered over how to plumb this until I took things apart....the inner filler hose threw me off at first but I am glad someone could visualize and then fabricate what I needed...In less then 20 minutes I might add.....Here are some pics of the parts I used....

RickDLance
06-06-2006, 08:51 AM
I thought this was the reply. Sorry if it wasn't. Looks like what you did was nice though!:)

Contact these guys (http://www.zylstraauto.com/) and see if they can steer you to the right part number for the replacement filler neck parts you need to re-plumb your fuel tank/toolbox...Good luck!

elipoppin
06-06-2006, 02:57 PM
Oh....I thought that would just be for the diesel sized filler hole / cap....I ended up chiseling out the unleaded sized hole into a diesel sized one...It works and looks ok...Who's going to see it anyways.....

elipoppin
06-08-2006, 02:22 AM
Hey look at what I found in west marines catalog......looks like the ticket...I have mine hooked to the defrost circuit and it works great but 10 minutes is too long....I have already learned. Oh crap...I just noticed the price....$82.00 :(

Easy to install, compact electric module controls timing of courtesy lights (incandescent or LED) and for exhaust fans and blowers.

12V
Takes loads up to 20A
User can select from 2, 4, 6, or 8 minute delays
http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product/10001/-1/10001/141485/10001/294/124/9

MrMinimax
06-12-2006, 01:01 PM
Is there any way to hook up the aux bed tank directly to the fuel line and avoid mixing fuel in the factory tank?

elipoppin
06-13-2006, 04:38 AM
Hey Lake Tapps....Out there all the time....I think you can do it with a 6 way valve....It has four taps for the In and Out of each tank and two taps for the lines going to the engine....I think there is some issue of the fuel cooler or something like that I read about in a forum.....The williams Oil Filters that fabbed my filler "T" adapter is near you on Puyallup Ave in Tacoma by near the Amtrack station. I just had it done so the guy there has it fresh in his head....They also had the 6 way valves and originaly told me this is how I could do it but I thought it sounded like more work. I did my conversion in front of work in between helping customers....Once I figured out what parts i needed it took about 1/2 hour to do it.

MrMinimax
06-13-2006, 01:34 PM
Thanks for the info, I dont think the 06 has a fuel cooler. I get hyd hoses done at Williams all the time so I know where they are at. I want to hook it up so I dont get red Koolaid in my green Koolaid.

mahana79
06-18-2006, 12:11 AM
I have the UWS 100 gallon tool/tank combo.http://www.uwsta.com/tank_combo.html I use a gravity feed transfer. I also have a 12v rotary pump/nozzle setup in the Pass. side 2" hole http://www.mytscstore.com/detail.asp?pcID=3&paID=1022&sonID=748&productID=152 and the filler cap in the driver side 2" hole. I have a 12v NC SV on the drain of the tank and that goes into the T-fitting spliced into the filler neck. When im traveling i let the main tank get down to 1/2 tank and then hit the switch and open the valve and start dripping. if im towing it drips in just a bit faster than i use it. To keep from forgeting it on i wired the switch to an IGN hot so the valve will only open when the key is "ON" as soon as i turn the truck off the valve will deenergize and go back to normally closed, even if i forgot and left the switch on.

I use it as a Aux tank to fuel the engine and i can use it as a trasfer tank to fuel other vehicles i.e. tractors and such.