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arguy
05-24-2006, 08:36 PM
For some time now my ABS burps just before I come to a complete stop. Otherwise the system works fine. Brake system seems a little spongy, I have replaced the fluid, rotors, and all the pads.

Techs - what's the problem??

Scott2500hd
05-26-2006, 10:07 AM
Have you cleaned the mounting surface of the front wheel speed sensors?

saratoga
05-26-2006, 10:38 AM
For some time now my ABS burps just before I come to a complete stop. Otherwise the system works fine. Brake system seems a little spongy, I have replaced the fluid, rotors, and all the pads.

Techs - what's the problem??

There's a TSB on the ABS for crap that builds up between the tone ring and the speed sensors, causing ABS activation when not in a lock-up situation. Don't recall or have access to it right now. You should check with your dealer to see for sure. Take it from someone who's been there and rear ended another driver because of this.

Scott2500hd
05-26-2006, 10:56 AM
2005 GMC Truck GMC K Sierra - 4WD
http://service.gm.com/engif/000/999/999/999999995.gif Subject:Antilock Brake (ABS) Activation at Low Speeds (Clean Wheel Speed Sensor Mounting Surface) #03-05-25-007C - (05/16/2006)


Models:2002-2006 Cadillac Escalade, Escalade EXT
2003-2006 Cadillac Escalade ESV
1999-2006 Chevrolet Silverado
2001-2006 Chevrolet Suburban, Tahoe
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1999-2006 GMC Sierra
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2003-2006 HUMMER H2


This bulletin is being revised to provide additional warranty information. Please discard Corporate Bulletin Number 03-05-25-007B (Section 05 -- Brakes).
<A href="http://service.gm.com/servlets/BlobShtml?ShtmlFile=1828803&psdid=297&evc=sm#ss1-1828803">Condition

Some customers may comment on ABS activation at low speeds, usually below 8 km/h (5 mph). Upon investigation, the technician will find no DTCs set.
<A href="http://service.gm.com/servlets/BlobShtml?ShtmlFile=1828803&psdid=297&evc=sm#ss2-1828803">Cause

The cause of this condition may be an increased air gap between the wheel speed sensor and the hub reluctor ring due to rust and debris built up on the sensor mounting surface.
<A href="http://service.gm.com/servlets/BlobShtml?ShtmlFile=1828803&psdid=297&evc=sm#ss3-1828803">Correction

Measure AC voltage and clean the wheel speed sensor mounting surfaces.
<LI type=1>Raise and support the vehicle. Refer to Lifting and Jacking the Vehicle in the General Information sub-section of the Service Manual. <LI type=1>Disconnect both the front wheel speed sensor connectors at the frame and harness. <LI type=1>Place a Digital Volt Meter (DVM) across the terminals of each wheel speed sensor connector. <LI type=1>Rotate the wheel clockwise approximately one revolution per second. The minimum reading should be at least 350 ACmV's. If the reading is less than 350 ACmV's, remove the wheel speed sensor. Refer to the applicable Wheel Speed Sensor Replacement procedure in the ABS sub-section of the Service Manual. <LI type=1>Plug the wheel speed sensor bore in order to prevent debris from falling into the hub during service. <LI type=1>Clean the wheel speed sensor mounting surface using a wire brush, sand paper, emery cloth, scotch brite, or other suitable material. Be sure to thoroughly clean the wheel speed sensor surface. There should be no rust or corrosion. <LI type=1>Check the sensor head to determine if it has been warped/distorted due to the corrosion build up or other causes. Check the mounting surface on the sensor head for flatness by placing it on the edge of a metal machinists scale or other suitable straight edge to measure the flatness. Check the sensor for flatness in multiple (minimum 3) positions/directions. If the sensor head is distorted, replace the sensor. <LI type=1>Apply (spray) two thin coats of the specified rust penetrating lubricant (corrosion inhibitor) to the complete sensor mounting surface on the bearing hub. Allow to dry for 3-5 minutes between coats. Use ONLY Rust Penetrating Lubricant, P/N 89022217 (Canadian P/N 89022218). <LI type=1>When the corrosion inhibitor is dry to the touch (about 10 minutes), apply a thin layer of bearing grease to the hub surface and sensor O-ring prior to sensor installation. Use ONLY Wheel Bearing Lubricant, P/N 01051344 (Canadian P/N 993037). <LI type=1>Install either the original sensor or a new one in the hub. Ensure that the sensor is seated flush against the hub. Refer to the applicable Wheel Speed Sensor Replacement procedure in the ABS sub-section of the Service Manual.
Place the DVM across the sensor terminals and recheck the voltage while rotating the wheel. The voltage should now read at least 350 ACmV's.<A href="http://service.gm.com/servlets/BlobShtml?ShtmlFile=1828803&psdid=297&evc=sm#ss4-1828803">Parts Information

Part Number
Description
Qty
89022217
(Canadian P/N 89022218)
(Package of 2 cans)
Rust Penetrating Lubricant
(Each can will service 50+ vehicles)
1
01051344
(Canadian P/N 993037)
(Package of 12 tubs)
Wheel Bearing Lubrication - Tub
(Each tub will service 25+ vehicles)
1
Place unused material on dealer shelf for future use.
<A href="http://service.gm.com/servlets/BlobShtml?ShtmlFile=1828803&psdid=297&evc=sm#ss5-1828803">Warranty Information

For vehicles repaired under warranty, use:
Labor Operation
Description
Labor Time
H9714*
(1500 Series)
Front Wheel Speed Sensor Inspect and Clean (Both Sides)
1.2 hrs
H9714*
(Single Wheels 2500/3500)
Front Wheel Speed Sensor Inspect and Clean (Both Sides)
1.5 hrs
H9714*
(Dual Wheels 3500)
Front Wheel Speed Sensor Inspect and Clean (Both Sides)
2.0 hrs
* This is a unique labor operation number for use only with this bulletin. This number will not be published in the Labor Time Guide.

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2005 GMC Truck GMC K Sierra - 4WD

arguy
05-27-2006, 09:23 PM
Thank you, I will look at my service manual and clean them up..

Thanks again:ro)