DuraDen
04-27-2004, 08:13 PM
Just purchased an 04 Silverado 2500HD Crew Cab with the Duramax and Allison. I know GM will not provide a snow plow prep package with this config and they "frown" upon doing it. Question is, does it void the warranty if I have a Minute Mount installed? The whole warranty or just anything GM can claim was caused by the plowing? Anyone out there have the details on this and are any of you plowing with it? Any info. would help. Thanks.
You can put a plow on as long as you don't exceed the front axle capacity. With a diesel crew you can only put the lightest regular models they have. Most manufacturers have a plow fitment program on their website. Go to Western or the others and punch in your truck.
nassdmax
04-28-2004, 09:23 AM
Yeah, listen to Hoot. He never did anything that was over GM recommendations at all... http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Evil Smile.gif
Why not fess up and tell all your plow setup. It was Sweet! Sure wouldn't look back doing that type of setup.
Later, Nass.
Yeah, listen to Hoot. He never did anything that was over GM recommendations at all... http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Evil Smile.gif
Why not fess up and tell all your plow setup. It was Sweet! Sure wouldn't look back doing that type of setup.
Later, Nass.
I just don't want to steer people my way if my way was to overload the truck. Yes I had a big Western MVP 8.6 mounted on my 2500 Dmax. The pics are available in my signature. Nothing to hide. The truck handled the plow really well. No complaints whatsoever!
I kept it and will install it on the Dodge.
The reason they don't want you to put a heavy plow on a crew cab diesel is it can carry up to 6 men and then they load the back with salt or counterweight and tools. That takes the truck front axle way over limits and can be hazardous.
That's why I will not say... just do it.
And by the way.... Ford and Dodge have similar limitations if not worse since the diesels and trucks themselves are heavier to start with. Fords have weak front springs and Dodges have bouncy coils.
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ratlover
04-28-2004, 09:36 AM
they can only deny waranty if they prove that what got zaped was caused by the plow. You may have headaches with geting front end stuff waranteed but other than that.
if you put a plow up there a crew cab has alot more weight over the nose. Remember this when picking a plow. Get some timbrens for the front. Run the right amount of balast in the back behind the rear wheels. A general rule I like is the weight of the plow. Fisher/western are good units but there are others that are deccent out there.
Check out www.letstalksnow.com (http://www.letstalksnow.com) and check out the forums.....
EDIT: and I hope to God you dont have a long bed......thats a long SOB and you will need a big blade to cover your tracks while turning. If your blade isnt wide enough to cover your tracks and you are running over your windrow you will get stuck easier and you will pack down part of what you are trying to plow. Duals and long wheelbase require much wider plows(or for you to plow in straight lines or not angle your blade much)
Also remeber that you cant just weight your truck and say "the front weighs 4k and my axel rating is 4800# so I can stick 800# up front" The plow sticks way off the front and acts as a big lever increasing the actual amount on the front end. Fisher has a good description of this on theri site. I believe fisher can do the calcs for you and recomend a plow if its not listed in thier chart if you give em all your weights for the front/rear axel and total weight and the capacity.
This is all based on my ideas of use the right tool for the job.....just about anything *can* work. There are guys plowing big lots in jeeps but IMO they should stick with what a jeep is good for(plowing driveways) I wont try to stuff my porky a$$ down a bunch of driveways because I'm not efficent at it with my rig. Pick the right peice of equipment for the plowing you do or pick the plowing you do to work well with the equipment you have. Get the widest blade you can and stick it in a lot IMO, shes too big to work well in tight areas. Edited by: ratlover
Bertram65
04-28-2004, 10:49 AM
When I had my GMC you could not get the plow prep package on it, it was a 1500 extended cab, therefore according to GM you could not put a plow on it. The truck was out of warrantee when I put the plow on so it did not matter, but I would bet if you have almost any type of front end problems you would not be covered. Another thing the local plow places around here will not install the plow on a truck that does not have plow prep, they cannot afford the liability if something bad happens.
JRKRACE
04-28-2004, 11:03 AM
Boy does this sound familiar....I was in the same dilemma. I wanted a Duramax Crew to replace my 2002 Ext cab short box HD 6.0 gas and I was in for a surprise.I was at the dealer placing the order and when he called the Fisher dealer, the Fisher dealer did not want anything to do with putting a plow on that truck. This is a big Fisher Dealer in the area. He said if it had a gas motor it would be no problem. On the Fisher website it doesn't even have a listing for the diesel in the crew cab models when you use the EASY-Match application program. I understand the weight issue,and I know the truck will handle the plow, but I don't feel right with GM calling the shots if something goes wrong,especially on the diesel.
For the GM crew cab SB diesel, Western allows their 7'2" Unimount LSX and the 7'6" Ultramount Standard plows.
Neither of which IMHO is an adequate plow.