I had the intermediate steering shaft replaced on my '05 at 5000 miles due to the proverbial clunk. At 15,000 miles, it seems like the clunk is coming back. Has anyone else experienced this after the intermediate shaft has been replaced?

it sounds like alot of the members are getting the clunk back.i have not had a problem seince its been replaced.

yes-mine is commin' back slowly...on turns on the freeway and at low speeds in the city...nothin' like It was,but I still notice there is a loose somethin'...somethin'....bugs the heck out of me:mad:

Had 2 replaced but that wasn't my clunk problem, they replace the steering gearbox and still the problem. They replaced the lower steering shaft bearing and finally no more clunk. I presently have 15 k plus and still good;)

Im on my 2nd shaft...I just went n spent 160 on the borgeson upgraded shaft just need to get it installed.

First time dealer re-greased...second time dealer replaced...clunk came back both times. I replaced with Borgsen&Mullens w/damper and 25+K later still tight and no clunk. good luck

Just Had It Greased At The Dealership 15000 Miles Now I Have A **** Load Of Scraches On My Front Fenders Oh And A Ratchet And Extension That The Tech Left Behind Going Back Monday Morning To Let Them Know.

steering shaft replaced at 14000 miles and dealer greased it at 35000. 38000 miles and the clunk is back--going back to the dealer.....glad i got the extendo warranty. I've owned a GM before...

Just Had It Greased At The Dealership 15000 Miles Now I Have A **** Load Of Scraches On My Front Fenders Oh And A Ratchet And Extension That The Tech Left Behind Going Back Monday Morning To Let Them Know.so what did they say?:eek:

I greased mine twice. Changed the shaft once about 6 - 8 months ago.

This past weekend the "clunk" had gotten so bad, I removed the shaft to investigate.

Couldn't find anything wrong. Because I keep everything, I had the plug that came with the grease kit so I decided not to clean any grease out of it and had an idea to put some black RTV in it and push it through. I figured it would still allow it to move if it got into a bind.

I've driven about 700 miles and so far, no more "clunk" and it drives alot better too.

Maybe I messed up big time, but so far it's working for me.

The price of the Borgeson shafts has really gone up. Seems like the price jumped up about the same time GM advised its dealers to lube rather than replace the shaft. I better get one ordered before they go up even more.

Stu

they are running $240.00 USD now

They Buffed The Truck. But You Can Stil See The Scraches. They Said That The Will Wet Sand And Buff Them Out.

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They Buffed The Truck. But You Can Stil See The Scraches. They Said That The Will Wet Sand And Buff Them Out.

i'm on my forth shaft and it seems that the dealer has finally got it right this time. i have about 51000 miles on an 04 crew cab.

I had mine replaced at 35,000. Now at 54k it's back... time to grease.

I had mine replaced at 24k. I am nearly at 38k now, and the clunk is starting to return.

I pulled mine out the other night and greased it. Time will tell how the grease I used will work. I used GE silicone grease. I have found that this grease will not seperate like regular grease. So far the clunk is gone.

Everyone seems to think the IT shaft is always the problem, that wasn't in my case that clunk was the lower steering shaft bearing not the IT shaft itself.;)

Mine was clunking like crazy, with over 80k on the truck, I decided it was time to investigate.
Pulled the shaft and filled it with a special homemade brew of wheel bearing greese and Permatex avation gasket maker.
Works great, no clunk and drives like new.
For anyone else out there that's wondering, its takes less then a half hour to take out, clean, lube, reassemble and put your tools back. Its cake.

I greased the shaft per GM's recommendation the first time and the noise came back. I then replaced the shaft with the updated version and the noise came back. Being stubborn, I decided that the Borgeson shaft would keep me from re-greasing the shaft periodically, so I put one in two thousand miles ago. The Borgeson shaft looks great, but it isn't the answer. The Borgeson shaft created a little bit different rattle after two thousand miles, but it didn't solve the problem. I'm back to greasing the OEM shaft. On the bright side, I've done this enough times that it only takes me about 30 minutes from start to finish. It seems that the trick to successfully greasing the shaft is to make sure that all of the air between the splines is removed. Sometimes it takes a few trys. There's no question in my mind that the OEM grease used on the original part does deteriorate with age. I've now convinced myself that this is going to be a maintenance issue for as long as I own the truck.

Duramax silverado 03 Had it greased at 3000 mi. dealer replaced it at 15000mi regreased at 25000 just har greased at 51000.
Dealer said that GM says this is normal on all GMs Hummer Caddy, Chev.
I have an extended warranty but it costs me $50 each time I take it in.
I am going to file a complaint with NTSHA. I feel this is a major safety issue and GM could care less. I traded in a 92 Dodge cummins with 200,000 miles that never gave me the problems this truck has.
Papanorm

Anyone have a copy of the steering shaft TSB, mine is "clunking" occasionally. Thanks!!!

These trucks are POSs

My 03 did it over and over greased & then replaced

My 06 has started with 15K on it.

Even my service guy says GM does not care, they tell them just to "band aid" it until you are out of warranty and then it's the consumer's problem.

I think there is another Toyota in my future.

I greased the shaft per GM's recommendation the first time and the noise came back. I then replaced the shaft with the updated version and the noise came back. Being stubborn, I decided that the Borgeson shaft would keep me from re-greasing the shaft periodically, so I put one in two thousand miles ago. The Borgeson shaft looks great, but it isn't the answer. The Borgeson shaft created a little bit different rattle after two thousand miles, but it didn't solve the problem. I'm back to greasing the OEM shaft. On the bright side, I've done this enough times that it only takes me about 30 minutes from start to finish. It seems that the trick to successfully greasing the shaft is to make sure that all of the air between the splines is removed. Sometimes it takes a few trys. There's no question in my mind that the OEM grease used on the original part does deteriorate with age. I've now convinced myself that this is going to be a maintenance issue for as long as I own the truck.
Bummer...mine is still tight and quiet after 25K. Was yours real stiff to slide? Send it back for refund...they are guarenteed. good luck

These trucks are POSs

My 03 did it over and over greased & then replaced

My 06 has started with 15K on it.

Even my service guy says GM does not care, they tell them just to "band aid" it until you are out of warranty and then it's the consumer's problem.

I think there is another Toyota in my future.

If these trucks are a POS then why did you buy another one and an '06 at that? Any brand you buy these days is a roll of the dice. I got rid of a Toyota 4Runner last month because of the "Sulpher Smell" TSB for their catalytic convertor, brittle windshild and steering wheel vibrations at highway speeds and it was an '05 so Toyota ain't all its cracked up to be! I'm not bashing you just realize there's not a vehicle out there that doesn't have problems.

I registered a complaint with them last night 7/11/06. they don't have any other complaints on this issue. they said if it's a problem more of us should contact them. They are going to open an inquiry into my complaint. I think if more of us contact them they'll get on GM to fix the problem.
The address is nhtsa.gov
Phone is 1-888-327 4236. it only takes a minute to do.
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Its papanorm again the adress I gave for NHTSA is

nhtsadot.gov sorry about that

Thanks papanorm i'll give them a call.

Thanks papanorm i'll give them a call.

Just got a response to my complaint. they want the dates of the prblem and any other information availible. I told them to check this sight and they will find plenty of complaints.

I had my ISS replaced at about 10K miles (ws just starting to knock). I took it in again at 30K miles, the dealer would not even grease it. Said it wasn't bad enough to warrant service. I was just trying to get it done before the 36 k warranty ran out. I'll have to wait another 3 months then take it back.

I guess initially, replacing was easy to stomach, but GM probably finally got tired of eating the costs, thus greasing became the fix of choice. Once the warranty gives out, i'll replace it on my dime.

Had mine replaced and so far no more knock, but I do have play in my steering wheel if I put my hands at 3 and 9 oclock and try to push pull the wheel. It feels like a bearing is loose within the column. Dealer said this is normal, said he tried several other trucks in the lot and some were even worse.
I have several Toyota cars with over 200K miles that don't have this, and my truck has 31K.
Is this really "normal" or should I push for something to be repaired? My warranty is up in days.
Any advice of what would need to be done, a TSB reference, etc, would help. I think the dealer isn't trying to be a jerk, I think he just thinks that's the way they are.
He did tell me they just pack the intermediate shafts now, that GM doesn't replace them any more. Mine was replaced last year because the rattle was really bad, but after reading everything above I suspect it won't hold.
No wonder their stock is going down the toilet...

I just came back from having the steering shaft "lubed" at the dealer under warranty. It was barely knocking but I figured that I would get it done now at 25K miles and maybe once more before it goes out of warranty. Service writer said that if it requires another relube at say 50-55K, they would cover it. Does that sound reasonable and more important, likely?:eek:

"Service writer said that if it requires another relube at say 50-55K, they would cover it. Does that sound reasonable and more important, likely?"

i would have to see that in writing.

I had mine lubed three times and still had the clunk. They replaced it at 34,000 and it has been coming back worse since then. I told them that I wanted it replaced because I was going to pass the 35,000 mark and they said that since it was an ongoing documented problem that it would still have been covered. I am thinking of trying some silicone or something besides grease. I don't think it is is a safety issue so I doubt we will ever see a recall on them. It is deffinetly annoying!

Does the Borgeson aftermarket shaft fix the problem or not? A search came up with two threads, one said it didn't help and the other said it did. It would be worth the ~$250 if I new it would fix that dammmmmm clunk...

My truck got the "clunk" yesterday...only 9000 miles Censored -:t

I'd like to hear more comments on the Borgeson replacement shaft too.

I guess the other thing to check out is the support bearing...Who all has fixed it by changing the bearing?

For what it's worth mine only clunks when I turn left...for now.

AC/DC: "She's got the jack, She's got the jack..."

Great I just had mine lubed yesterday. It was actually the dealer that discovered the noise. So I'm guessin my shaft will eventually have to be replaced.

My truck got the "clunk" yesterday...only 9000 miles Censored -:t

I'd like to hear more comments on the Borgeson replacement shaft too.

I guess the other thing to check out is the support bearing...Who all has fixed it by changing the bearing?

For what it's worth mine only clunks when I turn left...for now.

AC/DC: "She's got the jack, She's got the jack..."
I had the lower support bearing replaced and it seemed to fixed the problem, it's not always the Intermediate Shaft cause they replaced mine twice.;)

My truck is in for 5K service as I write this. I had them do the shaft greasing at 1300 mi, with no noticeable improvement. Service advisor just called me to say that two "QC" drove the truck and it's normal -- they can't feel anything but "normal" vibrations from the road.

My steering does not clunk. It's a rattle or shake in the column on sweeping turns at moderate speeds, like freeway ramps. Have to be turning to feel it. The wheel itself does not shake. At first I thought something was loose. I am a little more used to it now, but it feels more like my ratty ol' garden tractor steering than a 40K truck.

Is this 'Normal' for these trucks? Is it my sway bars (doubt it), or the Bilsteins (double doubt it)??

Oh yeah, when they did the first grease, they removed the gas pedal and accessed the column from there, somehow, with a "special tool". I asked the SA today if they removed the ISS, and didn't get a straight answer.

Great I just had mine lubed yesterday. It was actually the dealer that discovered the noise. So I'm guessin my shaft will eventually have to be replaced.

I had a bunch or warranty work done Tuesday since it is at 31k miles. I think the dealer was slow and needed some work so they installed the grease kit and fixed the problem I didn't know I had. My list of 10 concerns turned into 12 items addressed? But at least my steering shaft is well lubed.:) Sorry that didn't sound right.:D