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fishingn
04-20-2004, 08:51 PM
Who has the best price on the edge juice & attitude monitior???

GMC2500HD
04-20-2004, 09:03 PM
How much you looking to pay, they are all over ebay. You might be able to get on cheap there.


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2474489920&catego ry=33597


Here ya go..Edited by: GMC2500HD

DSTRBD
04-20-2004, 09:35 PM
There are several places out there that sell the Edge products for well under retail pricing. All I can say is, be careful who you buy from, theres alot of shady characters out there. If we can help, let me know.

Terry
04-20-2004, 09:48 PM
Who has the best price on the edge juice & attitude monitior???

As others indicated, be careful whom you purchase
from. If it matters about a warrantee, buy from an
authorized dealer.

I used Chris at extremedieselproducts.com and
was very satisfied with the price and service.
http://www.extremedieselproducts.com/CHEVY.html

hth,

T.

flhrciblueice
04-21-2004, 06:17 AM
Who has the best price on the edge juice & attitude monitior???

As others indicated, be careful whom you purchase
from. If it matters about a warrantee, buy from an
authorized dealer.

I used Chris at extremedieselproducts.com and
was very satisfied with the price and service.
http://www.extremedieselproducts.com/CHEVY.html

hth,

T.


Ditto, give Chris a call. He will treat you right.

Mark Craig
04-21-2004, 10:22 AM
fishingn,


I also can't express enough how careful you need to be on E Bay! Currently Edge Products is dealing with the E Bay issue daily and folks that are still out there at low prices are either very brave and or they are selling out of inventory as they are not probably getting more etc for future sales etc.


So it goes without saying Site Supporters like us will take care of the pricing issue, we want your business, that's why we advertise here! Just make sure you have somewhere to go if you have a problem with a product, with us you do. E Bay today and gone tommorrow does happen on a pretty frequent basis!


Mark @ DPPI

fishingn
04-21-2004, 04:09 PM
Do you still have to drill & tap the manifold with the juice & attitude monitor.

Mackin
04-21-2004, 04:15 PM
You don't have to but if you want use of every function as in EGT monitering and backdown you will ...


Mac

fishingn
04-21-2004, 04:19 PM
Iam kinda scared of drilling i remenber what happened to that fella on here that tried to do it & cost him some $$$$$$$$$$. I dont really need the additional power i dont pull or haul anything heavy but it sure sounds like it would be fun.

cdhd2001
04-21-2004, 04:19 PM
Bought mine from Conn's Performance (site supporter!). Great deal!http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif

hdmax
04-21-2004, 08:21 PM
The hot Juice w/ Attitude needs to come down a lot if it is still up around $1000. It should be in the $700-$750 range, and the regular should be $550-$600 That is a fair price.


Until the price comes down to those prices they are going to lose lots of sells to other companies. The TST PowerMax is over priced as well at $849, and in my opinion it is in the same category as the Hot Juice/Attitude.


I have talked to dozens of Duramax owners (And many have rode in my truck) When they find out the price for some of the higher priced boxes/programers they freak out.


There is not a box/programer worth more then $800 Quad is the worst about this, The 215 hp box is triple the price of the 135hp box. That; my friend is a rip off.

Mackin
04-21-2004, 08:48 PM
The 135 numbers lays right over the hot Juice at the dyno and is nearly 600 beans with no mandatory IMO, gauges .....


The Edge /Attitude can be had at MANY distributers for 800 bucks some with free shipping ,legit dealers not ebay ...


Mac

dmaxalliTech
04-21-2004, 09:54 PM
There is a guy here in GR that even installs them for free when you purchase it from him, EGT probe and allhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif


While I do agree that its a lot of money for a tuner.....what else can you drive, bolt on another 120ish HP and gobs of torque, do it with out any tools or knowledge in just a few minutes, and for less then a grand?

hdmax
04-21-2004, 10:27 PM
The 135 numbers lays right over the hot Juice at the dyno and is nearly 600 beans with no mandatory IMO, gauges .....


The Edge /Attitude can be had at MANY distributers for 800 bucks some with free shipping ,legit dealers not ebay ...


Mac





You are talking about the regular Juice/Attitude for 800 smackers, right? I have seen many places with that price, and some for 50 or so bucks less. I have yet to see the Hotie with an Attitude for under $950 (Not the ones on the street corners after darkhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif )

Mackin
04-21-2004, 10:42 PM
125 is regular Attitude Juice .... The 145 Comp is damanding a higher cost ...


Mac

McRat
04-22-2004, 06:07 PM
To gain 125rwhp with a gas truck motor, you will have to:


Use a 150hp wet nitrous kit ($1000 + bigger fuel pump + tuning)


or


Increase CI (bore/stroke) and change heads and cam ($4000)


or


Supercharge it ($6000+)


So getting 125 easy HP for a grand doesn't sound too bad.

hdmax
04-22-2004, 06:19 PM
To gain 125rwhp with a gas truck motor, you will have to:


Use a 150hp wet nitrous kit ($1000 + bigger fuel pump + tuning)


or


Increase CI (bore/stroke) and change heads and cam ($4000)


or


Supercharge it ($6000+)


So getting 125 easy HP for a grand doesn't sound too bad.








And your point is?


Why would you quote prices for a gas engine, when we are talking diesel? I hear the prase apples to apples all the time! So lets try and stay focusedhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif

McRat
04-22-2004, 06:59 PM
$1000 bucks is a lot of money, but on a $/HP basis a tuner is very cheap. Less than $10/hp.


What other modifications for a diesel yield a better $/hp ratio than a box?

Mackin
04-22-2004, 07:11 PM
For the Duramax ?? Squat if we are including PCM programming ....Injectors haven't proven to be worth TF yet ....


Only Drugs .... Propane tank and Regulator will run nearly a Grand for a hundred horse .... NOX NFG without some fuel ...


Cummings (For HOOT) you get Turbo and injector .... I don't consider Furd a contender ....





Mac

2MuchFun
04-22-2004, 07:14 PM
To gain 125rwhp with a gas truck motor, you will have to:


Use a 150hp wet nitrous kit ($1000 + bigger fuel pump + tuning)


or


Increase CI (bore/stroke) and change heads and cam ($4000)


or


Supercharge it ($6000+)


So getting 125 easy HP for a grand doesn't sound too bad.











Dont ya Love Diesel!! http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gifhttp://dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big%20Smile.gif


HDMax, He's just saying that the price for the Juice/Attitude isnt bad when compared to what it cost for the same gains on a gasser.


I got mine from Cons Performance also, the price was GrrrEAt and service too!Edited by: 2MuchFun

hdmax
04-23-2004, 06:16 AM
Yes; and for under $500 you can get the Predator, Super, Stealth, or the Power Programer, These are the 85-120 HP. Sure you don`t get gages, but a few of them will never need them. I know the Stealth 110HP will never need gages. I can not get the EGT over 1235* and 23.4# of Boost no matter how I drive Towing, Loaded, or empty. (This is with an Banks 4" exhaust, and AFE Stage II intake)


So lets not get started saying, "Yea but what about gages"http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Approve.gif


The Predator gives you 120 RWHP and many other features for under $500. Sure it has some problems, But you don`t have to go far to read about the problems the Juice/Attitude is having either. None of them are perfecthttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cry.gif

Reggie
04-23-2004, 06:47 AM
Yes; and for under $500 you can get the Predator, Super, Stealth, or the Power Programer, These are the 85-120 HP. Sure you don`t get gages, but a few of them will never need them. I know the Stealth 110HP will never need gages. I can not get the EGT over 1235* and 23.4# of Boost no matter how I drive Towing, Loaded, or empty. (This is with an Banks 4" exhaust, and AFE Stage II intake)


So lets not get started saying, "Yea but what about gages"http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Approve.gif


The Predator gives you 120 RWHP and many other features for under $500. Sure it has some problems, But you don`t have to go far to read about the problems the Juice/Attitude is having either. None of them are perfecthttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cry.gif





Yes the benifits of excessive timing cooler EGT's.But you have to ask yourself at what exspence.

2MuchFun
04-23-2004, 11:20 AM
Yes; and for under $500 you can get the Predator, Super, Stealth, or the Power Programer, These are the 85-120 HP. Sure you don`t get gages, but a few of them will never need them. I know the Stealth 110HP will never need gages. I can not get the EGT over 1235* and 23.4# of Boost no matter how I drive Towing, Loaded, or empty. (This is with an Banks 4" exhaust, and AFE Stage II intake)


So lets not get started saying, "Yea but what about gages"http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Approve.gif


The Predator gives you 120 RWHP and many other features for under $500. Sure it has some problems, But you don`t have to go far to read about the problems the Juice/Attitude is having either. None of them are perfecthttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cry.gif





Ok then, to compare apples to apples, you can get just the Juice for well under $500 without the gauges (Attitude) if you dont care about whats going on with the motor.. And in a lot of people opinions, the Juice is THEE Tuner for the Dmax.


The only problems with the Juice is what? Nextel phones and improper connections?

BadDog
04-23-2004, 04:07 PM
And "crank no start"

Mackin
04-23-2004, 04:13 PM
The phone issue is with the Attitude .... The no start was corrected ...


Take your time when installing and connections will be good ...


Don't care whats going on with the motor ?? Good grief ,you didn't say that did you ??


Mac http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif

hdmax
04-23-2004, 08:39 PM
2muchfun;


You say


"Ok then, to compare apples to apples, you can get just the Juice for well under $500 without the gauges (Attitude) if you dont care about whats going on with the motor.. And in a lot of people opinions, the Juice is THEE Tuner for the Dmax.


The only problems with the Juice is what? Nextel phones and improper connections?"


First of all, Where can you buy a new regular Juice from a legit vendor for WELL UNDER $500? (Remember we are told that we should buy from supporting vendorshttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cry.gif , with that said, I really don`t care where I buy, as long as it is a fair price, and the product isn`t stolen. Screw the over priced vendor regardless if they are here or anywhere else)


Second; From what I have read, the regular Juice can take the EGT to highs that even John Denver never hit. So with that said; I do not recommend running it on the 90 hp setting without gages.


And while we are on the 90hp reg Juice; Have you ever tried to set it up? It is the hardest (Hands down, no question about it!) of all boxes/programers to set up and or change. That alone takes it out of the running for cheap easy horse power.





Then you state that


"And in a lot of people opinions, the Juice is THEE Tuner for the Dmax."


I say to that; Opinions are like A-holes, everybody has one (and some have two) I know of several guys that will die thinking that the world is flat. That don`t make it true.


And then this "The only problems with the Juice is what? Nextel phones and improper connections?


You can add No starts, and windshild wiper problems and problem programing different levels for starters and there are many more. If you believe those are the only problem with the Juice; you are either blind to it, or have not done much reading about it.


The Juice has had just as many problems reported as most any other box/programer.


I am not cutting down the Juice, as I will be buying it for the second time in the coming months. (And I will not rule E-Bay out just because it may hurt someones feelings. I have purchased many items off E-Bay will out a single problem) I Know the Juice (regarless what flavor) is a very good product. (But not perfect as some seam too think)


I original post was about these programers being over priced, if you remember; I stated that The Stealth 215hp was the worst at this.


The way I see it is; Once you have the program worked out, How can one justify charging $1000 extra for adjusting a tune a little more? (As in the Quad Stealth) I know as long as people will pay, it is the American way to charge out the ying-yang! I am just not willing to pay. Edited by: hdmax

White Duramax
04-23-2004, 08:58 PM
The juice cannot be thee tuner for the duramax, because it is not a tuner! Not everyone thinks its the best in the world either. It is hard to get a regular juice to change levels, I have tried. My buddy has a regular juice, it smokes more than my 120 Predator and runs just as hot.

hdmax
04-23-2004, 10:26 PM
Yes the benifits of excessive timing cooler EGT's.But you have to ask yourself at what exspence.





I have no idea what your post is about. Do you? Please explain!

Kennedy
04-23-2004, 10:41 PM
Funny thing is, the Juice 90 never met John Denver, AND runs similar WOT EGTs to the Banks 6 Gun SL in my loaded testing...

Mackin
04-23-2004, 11:32 PM
Funny thing is, the Juice 90 never met John Denver, AND runs similar WOT EGTs to the Banks 6 Gun SL in my loaded testing...


John you better lay off the Brats Cheese and exspecially the beer ... Some of these guys wont get that ...


Mac http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif

Mackin
04-23-2004, 11:35 PM
Yes the benifits of excessive timing cooler EGT's.But you have to ask yourself at what exspence.





I have no idea what your post is about. Do you? Please explain!





No Ford guy but timing will lower EGT's ... To much timing equals excessive cylinder pressure ....That equals head gaskets ...





Mac http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Geek.gif

2MuchFun
04-24-2004, 12:12 PM
Ok, whatever.


I can see people have their opinions and are set and thats fine.


Im QUITE happy with my Juice/Attitude at $725 shipped and no taxes from a 'reputable' dealer here on the boards. If you consider the fact that you are getting a tuner AND full set of gauges+ for the price, the Juice/attitude is a bargain.


Mac, IMO, if someone adds any type of performance modification and is not concerned with having gauges, they dont much care about whats going on with their motor.


Edited by: 2MuchFun

2MuchFun
04-24-2004, 12:18 PM
The juice cannot be thee tuner for the duramax, because it is not a tuner!





Har har, so clever http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Geek.gif

ghettosled
04-27-2004, 01:10 AM
Mac, IMO, if someone adds any type of performance modification and is not concerned with having gauges, they dont much care about whats going on with their motor.


isnt a 100,000 mile drivetrain warranty wonderful http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif

snowho
04-28-2004, 12:51 PM
Think Edge will try and stop this auction.http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2476275113&catego ry=33597


Aaron

Mackin
04-28-2004, 01:34 PM
http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Shocked.gif





Is there a reserve ??


Mac

snowho
04-28-2004, 01:40 PM
NO!! and he's selling 17 of them at that price. Its one of those multi product auctions.


Aaron

Mackin
04-28-2004, 02:00 PM
On their site they Advertise at the min $809 ....


Kinda makes you wonder .... Well it will be up to the vendors to lean on the manufacture and the distributers ....





Mac

AndrewFessler
04-28-2004, 04:11 PM
Since he took his own photos, I am pretty sure they can't get ebay to shutdown the auction like they were doing before.


Edge was using the reason of Copyright infringement for the original auctions where the ebayer simply used a photo from Edge's website.


MY understanding is that this guy is making next to nothing in regards to profit. SO I am not sure what his point is in pissing off all the distributors.


It is a free country though, last I checked.

Hacksaw
04-28-2004, 05:42 PM
I believe that is a Dutch Auction. However, at $605.00 shipped, that is an excellent price. If someone is wanting one, I doubt they would find one for less. I know I paid much more.

hdmax
04-28-2004, 08:53 PM
I have read on this very site that at least one vendor will sell the regular Juice/Attitude for about $650 shipped.


The way I read the e-bay juice, it is at $595 plus $10 shipping and the bids are still coming in. That is not the winning or buy for price. So when all is said and done, it may not be a great price.

moss022
04-28-2004, 10:58 PM
i had a guy try and sell me a 200 hp edge hot with attitude. anyone heard of that? he wanted 1050 said he was tight with edge

hdmax
04-29-2004, 05:57 AM
i had a guy try and sell me a 200 hp edge hot with attitude. anyone heard of that? he wanted 1050 said he was tight with edge


Sounds like he is too tight with Edge. Tell him to get his head out of their a$$http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Approve.gif


Thank you, I`ll be here all weekhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif

Mackin
04-29-2004, 06:36 AM
i had a guy try and sell me a 200 hp edge hot with attitude. anyone heard of that? he wanted 1050 said he was tight with edge


Sounds like he is too tight with Edge. Tell him to get his head out of their a$$http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Approve.gif


Thank you, I`ll be here all weekhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif





He he heeeeee


Mac http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif

moss022
04-29-2004, 10:09 PM
so it is true????????????

Mackin
05-03-2004, 10:45 PM
Um


So I guess someone got spanked ....


Mac http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Geek.gif

killerbee
06-12-2004, 04:39 PM
The best price on the juice/attitude will be found in a group Buy in the GB section for more information.


http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5553&PN=1&TPN=3


Edited by: masterp2

bub-baloo
06-14-2004, 02:06 AM
Not trying to make anyone mad but, My dad taught me that if store A is selling apples for 1.50 and store B is selling apples for 2.00 you buy your apples at store A. I don't know about the rest of you but my money is still earned as should Edge's and everyone else's.


I just bought an Juice/attitude from EBAY for $611.00 shipped. That, I feel is a fair price. Even with the gages and the "chip" lets be realistic $800.00 is a lot of money, for what it is. And as long as Edge is making there $$ from each unit what should they care how much there dealers are selling them for.


Everyone of us look around for the best price on our trucks Why shouldn't we do the same thing for our accessories?


If GM put out a memo tomorrow that said all dealer's are to sell all Duramax's for the same price no breaks, no dealer discounts, no dickering, this is the price that's it, Period, this site would be flooded with mad people. So why should we accept that from edge? Just my 2 cents.

Dmax Tim
06-14-2004, 06:15 AM
"If GM put out a memo tomorrow that said all dealer's are to sell all Duramax's for the same price no breaks, no dealer discounts, no dickering, this is the price that's it, Period, this site would be flooded with mad people."


That is how I have to buy my trucks, GM has set the price and same everywhere.


U won't here me complain about it http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif

GMC2500HD
06-14-2004, 08:55 AM
I agree with Dmax Tim, I pay same price for all my vehicles that he does too...http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif

bub-baloo
06-17-2004, 05:18 PM
My $611.00 Juice/Attitude arived it's installed and Life ia a little faster now.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif If any one wants the email of the guy I bought it from please feel free to PM me.

ratlover
06-18-2004, 11:44 AM
Not trying to make anyone mad but, My dad taught me that if store A is selling apples for 1.50 and store B is selling apples for 2.00 you buy your apples at store A. I don't know about the rest of you but my money is still earned as should Edge's and everyone else's.





I have also found that sometimes its worth it to pay a bit more for actual service. I like being able to give a knowledgable guy a call with a problem(beit the product that I just bought or anyother problem) and have him help me out. Not saying that the cheapest ebay guy will be gone tomarrow or that you wont be able to give him a call after you bought a juice box off him and ask his oppinion on somthering else that he has absolutly no chance of making $ off of but he takes the time to talk with you anyway. But I know of a few guys here that are always ready to asnwer Q's and share thier knowedge for basicly free.....heck yes I will swing my $ thier way becuase if i didnt they wouldnt be here cuz they would be outa work. I may have paid a bit more for my attitude but i have been saved and will probably be saved tons more $ with all the help and advice i have recieved. The pursuit for the lowest cost possible is why it is becoming more and more difficult to find a store with people that have 1/2 a clue letalone an expert.


Sorry for the ranthttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Embarrased.gif No body pissed me off though, I'm just expressing my oppinion.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Approve.gif

bub-baloo
06-18-2004, 09:45 PM
Just for the record. I am a "Shop at home guy" I actually take a lot of crap from friends for not going to the "Big town" 80 mi's away for stuff. I would spend an extra $50.00 in a heart beat mabye even $100.00 but I couldn't justify $200.00. I Have young family and there is never enough $$, but that said I like toys for my truck. It was ether not get a Edge Juice/Attitude at full or near retail or find one cheeper. So thats what I did. I have and will continue to buy products from people on this site. But I have to be wise with my toy money.
I sure hope I haven't offended anyone, I was just excited, and was wanted to answer the origanal question
"What is the best price found for an Edge/Attitude"

OC_DMAX
06-18-2004, 09:51 PM
Nothing wrong with getting a good price on a product. Its one of the pillars of our economic system in this country.

HD4fun
06-19-2004, 12:25 AM
Just for the record. I am a "Shop at home guy" I actually take a lot of crap from friends for not going to the "Big town" 80 mi's away for stuff.


If by "Big Town" you mean Reno, good luck even getting anyone to sell to you here for under $1000. This town's a rip off when it comes to this kind of stuff. I looked long and hard around town before deciding to go elsewhere. One guy wanted to sell me a superchips programmer and some gauges for $800 - give me a break!

bub-baloo
06-19-2004, 01:22 AM
Yep!! I mean Reno...Here in Susanville we have no Edge dealers, to be honest I didn't even look in Reno. I don't like going over there, too busy for me. I'm a small town boy. I get over there and want to pull teeth (someone else's of course) by the time go home.

snowho
06-19-2004, 10:26 AM
HD4fun,


You no longer need to go far for great prices in Reno, NV. Visit www.apdieselperformance.com (http://www.apdieselperformance.com) (still working on the web site) or give me a call at (775) 240-5636. Spread the word locally. I'm also a supporting vendor for this website. All of the product I sell is guaranteed to meet your satisfaction at the lowest prices with ongoing customer service support.


Aaron Phillips

CntrlCalDmax
06-19-2004, 09:55 PM
Iam kinda scared of drilling i remenber what happened to that fella on here that tried to do it & cost him some $$$$$$$$$$. I dont really need the additional power i dont pull or haul anything heavy but it sure sounds like it would be fun.


I had the problem but I figure it's like being thrown off a horse, you gotta get right back on. I drilled, taped and installed a Juice/Attitude about a month ago in the new truck. No problem! If I make a mistake I just make sure I don't do it again.


Don't let drilling and taping the manifold keep you from installing a Juice. You're right about "it sounds like it would be fun".

bub-baloo
06-20-2004, 08:43 PM
I just installed my EGT sensor today and the hardest part of the job was taking the wheel liner out (WHAT A PAIN). The actual install was les than 30 min. (more like 20 min.). My father in law-in-law watched so that when he gets his LLY Edge he'll be ready to do his. He and I were both supprised at how easy the manifold was to drill through, also how good HOOT'S DIY post was. The thing that I thought was the key to drilling was SLOOOOOOW drill speed. It makes small chips that blow a way real good. Also HOOT says it, Take little bits on the tap, cut a little then back out ect, ect, ect. Thanks to all who have posted about doing it yourself its a little harry thinking about doing it but after reading about all the REGULAR guys (including office workers) that have done it helps to grow the Gonads enough to start...


Thanks to all.

ratlover
06-21-2004, 10:55 AM
Glad to hear everything went ok. It really is easier than you think. I was really nervous about doing it but after the fact it was a breeze.


I bought a package of those little stupid plastic clips from Eric(dmaxallitech) since they are a PITA to remove at times without buggering em up or they go rocketing out at your eyeball or into some unseen crevice in the shophttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Angry.gif Thank God they go together easy though since they are a PITA comming apart.Edited by: ratlover