Just out of curiosity. I've been thinking about it lately and more so when I'm cruising around. The reason I say low to mid 13s is because when I first bought my 2000 SS, bone stock I was running mid 13s and that would beat your average Mustang and mildly modded imports, etc. I think it would be awesome to be rolling around in my 4 door 2500HD diesel truck and pull up to a brand new Mustang and beat him.

Anyhow, I may pursue this, depending on what needed to be done. I want to be able to do this without nitrous, propane, etc. I also want to keep it as street friendly as possible as this is my daily driver. The only mod I have for performance is a MBRP 4" stainless steel catback with front pipe (cat delete). I'm waiting for the Edge programmer and I'm considering doing the AFE stage 2 intake with Pro Guard 7 filter.

I know the Edge programmer isn't out yet, but what do you think it would run with a the highest setting? Of course, I'm sure you'll need transmission upgrades with the highest setting as I'm sure the power increase will be high as it is with the current programmers that are out. I've heard that the '06 LBZ runs mid 15s stock.

I Can confirm mid 15s or better stock *cheesy grin*

a big program, lift pump, possibly a turbo and injectors. tranny goes without saying. get guages before you spend money on the intake, imho.

What's next in the bag for me is a set of gauges and I'm thinking of doing the BD exhaust manifold because it already comes tapped for a pyrometer probe. Then a muffler delete for my 4" MBRP exhaust. Then possibly the AFE stage 2 intake with Pro Guard 7 filter.

I was just curious to know what it would take to get it to run low to mid 13s. When the Edge comes out, that'll be another mod to the truck. Then I might look into upgrading the tranny.

Does anyone out there know of any LBZs running low to mid 13s yet?

I dont think you'd need a turbo to run 13's. Definetly tranny. There really isnt "big" power out yet for the LBZ. Bullydog is defiently turning out to be pretty good tho. One guy ran a 14.1 on an otherwise bone stock truck, with the 69hp tune. The extreme tune would probably be high to mid 13's with a built trans.

Running an aftermarket turbo on an LBZ isnt a possibility yet anyways. No way to disable the VVT. And when the ECM sees no VVT, the truck will only run "ok". Trust me, ive been chasing down VVT gremins in the ECM for a while..finally I think I got rid of them tho :)

Well an aftermarket turbo is definately out of the question. This is my daily driver and one of the main reasons I bought this truck is to pully my RACE CAR. I'm not looking to making my truck a race truck, just was curious as what it would take to run those numbers. Would I like it to run that fast, absolutely, but will it happen, possibly, just depending on what would need to be done. I figured if the truck stock ran 15s, then it shouldn't be too much to get it to 13s, but then again, I don't know too much about the diesel world. I figured with the Edge programmer on the highest setting (when it becomes available) and a trans upgrade, it should get me close.

It took Blue ~470rwhp to run 13.1x at HRP, but it's a 4x4. It would perhaps take 550rwhp to do it in a 2wd using a 2.1 60', less if you are using slicks.

You are currently looking at biggest available LBZ tuner (PPE?) stacked with a pressure box, nitrous and propane.

And some pretty big balls. ;0

ahh didnt see the 2wd part...

and hes running 33's and thinking of 35's. thats why i thought turbo. its easier(read. useful every day) than n2o. whats the reason for more power with a lighter(4x2) truck? higher boost launches?

dura. thats not fair. appearently lbz's arent gonna get efi live.

Naw, the 2WD will have to make up for the higher 60' time by accelerating harder down the rest of the track.

that's what i meant. 4x4 would use higher boost launches.

Why would it take more power for a 2WD compared to a 4WD? The only reason I could think of is that off the launch, the 4WD is probably going to have better traction as 4 wheels are turning compared to 2, however, seems like it would need more power to accomplish this as it needs to turn 4 wheels and not 2. Kinda goes both ways in my opinion.

Not looking to do any kind of injection. I didn't think I would need that much power to run those numbers, but then again, I don't know too much about the diesel side of the performance spectrum. If I'm currently at 360 hp, I would need a 140 hp tune to accomplish 500 hp. I'm waiting on Edge to release their version for the LBZ, so who knows what settings they will offer.

2WD is gonna be rough I ran my truck this weekend and it was a full second slower in 2wd and I took off at a lower RPM

2WD= 15.7 2.6 60'

4WD= 14.7 1.9 60'

Anyone want to chime in and explain how trucks run faster in 4WD compared to 2WD? To me, I would think it would run slower as its having to turn 4 wheels compared to 2, which should soak up more power.

I normally cut mid to low 1.7 60' times in 4WD with both trucks, on street tires. Your first trip to the track will be all the explaining you will need.

The truck is not going to the track anytime soon, that is why I'm asking.

2wd is very hard to launch with a front heavy 7000lb truck. You can get good trap speeds, but without slicks and a sticky track, you will not get good times.

Because you are either going to burn out halfway thru the track or you are not going to leave with enough boost to turn a decent 60 ft time.

the diesel trucks make so much torque off the line that thats where they do the most work and perform the best in the quarter mile. Where as gassers need to be wound up, so they start out slow and pull hard the second half of the 1/4 mile. Diesels are the opposite... but if you have 2wd, you cant take advantage of where the diesels are strongest in the 1/4 mile, because you'll just be spinning the tires. 60 foot times and the first half of the 1/4 are mainly what determines a diesel trucks ET.

Would 305/55/20 Nitto Terra Grapplers make a difference? I did notice there was much better traction with these tires compared to my 245/75/16 stock tires. I'm thinking of going with 325/60/20 which should help more.