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: Max-E-Tork - worth it?


SteveKoz
04-29-2006, 09:14 AM
Anyone using the Heath Max-E-Tork setup on their truck? Would like to know your opinion.. They claim 65-70hp and 150ftlb torque. True? Worth it? Thanks

Turbine Doc
04-29-2006, 10:31 AM
big thumbs up on Max E, got it & would recommend to others

oil burner
04-29-2006, 10:50 AM
Night and day difference from stock "F" program, but not sure about 65-70hp and 150ftlb torque increase. I'd like to see some dyno #'s, but able to SMOKE both rear tires now when aux fuel tank is empty. So maybe.:)

gmctd
04-29-2006, 11:03 AM
A charge-air cooler is a big part of that power gain - BUT, even without, the difference is like you were driving yer grammaw's V6, and now you got a hot V8.

Anyone who's ridden in TD's truck, or my GMC, simply cannot believe that it's a Diesel - let the hammer down, and the look on their face is priceless.

But, hey - don't even get me started.................

SteveKoz
04-29-2006, 11:25 AM
A charge-air cooler is a big part of that power gain - BUT.

?? They don't say anything about a charge-air cooler on their web site.

gmctd
04-29-2006, 12:08 PM
Bill advocates the water-mist approach to charge-air cooling, but does have a water-to-air cooler in the works.

But - your engine will not even develop the factory-rated 190hp without a c-a cooler - that's why PCM pulls Boost at anything over 7psi.

The higher - and longer, sustained - the Boost, the hotter the charge-air temps.

The hotter the charge-air temp, the less power developed.

A cool 30-40deg Fall\Winter\Spring day is the only time you'll ever see sustained 190hp outta the engine - if the PCM is amenable.

wild willy
04-29-2006, 07:40 PM
oil burner - I switched from a BD chip to the Max-E-Tork. Look in my garage for some dyno numbers.

dmitch
04-29-2006, 08:10 PM
I really like the chip. Made a big diff in my truck. With the other mods that I have I think the claim of 65-70 HP is a little overboard. That said I have never had the truck on a dyno. My seat of the pants says very very good improvemnt but not that much HP gain.

SteveKoz
05-01-2006, 08:05 AM
Not knowing a lot about the different yr engines it seems like it made a big improvement in the '94 - 95' model years. There were also air intake restrictions and different IP in those years as well. Since '99 was the last year they made these motors do you think the max-e-tork will have less a gain in my truck?

The cool air setup makes sense when you explain it like that. So is it true then by switching to the chip and manual boost control set at 12psi over the factory 9psi that I might just brake even? More boost but because it's hotter air I'll loose power?? Or really not gain enough to be worth the money?

I thought this would be easy...:bawl:

gmctd
05-01-2006, 09:04 AM
It is easy, Steve, too easy - but, also too hard to keep your foot out of it after the upgrade.

Doesn't take long for guys to blow up their engiees, after doing the chip or reflash.

The power is there, but requires caution and some driver restraint - and I'm not talkin' seat-belts.

Try it - you'll like it....................

Turbine Doc
05-01-2006, 10:13 AM
I'd think the 60-70 Hp claim is an at crank hp gain, I just found recently a Mustang chasis dyno is only 45 miles from me, I have to negotiate for a better price, they charge $300/hr for tuning runs :eek: :eek: :eek: , but I believe that price includes them doing some work other than running a dyno, I'll be doing the tuning if you will, just swapping different configurations EGR-non EGR-S PCM-F PCM-vac control boost-TM control boost etc. I still have my stock PCM, plus a S reflash, and a F reflash with MAX-E in them, if I can get the cost down I'll run em. Donations to the R&D cause cheerfully accepted :D

SnowDrift
05-01-2006, 12:21 PM
Anyone using the Heath Max-E-Tork setup on their truck? Would like to know your opinion.. They claim 65-70hp and 150ftlb torque. True? Worth it? Thanks

Love it!

16gaSxS
05-01-2006, 01:52 PM
The only thing I don't like about when I got mine is that waited too long to get it!!!

SteveKoz
05-01-2006, 02:00 PM
Anyone with a 98-99 model year have this installed. Seems like '95 was a good year for it.. :)

Other then the want to keep the pedal to the metal, did you see an increase in fuel used or decrease?

Turbine Doc
05-01-2006, 02:33 PM
ahem-ahem :confused:

read my signature 1998 K1500, so yes I run one I have both a 98 S reflash, and a 99 F reflash both from Heath love them both. The 99 F PCM is for "offroad use only" in my truck.

oil burner
05-01-2006, 03:23 PM
"different configurations EGR-non EGR-S PCM-F PCM-vac control boost-TM control boost etc. I still have my stock PCM, plus a S reflash, and a F reflash with MAX-E in them, if I can get the cost down I'll run em. Donations to the R&D cause cheerfully accepted "

Set up an account. paypal or? I'm sure you'll get $$$. Should'nt take more than an hour to swap out a few PCM's and make some runs.:grd:

Turbine Doc
05-01-2006, 04:37 PM
If you guys are serious that was just a poke in jest, I'll look into it in earnest, maybe best to do the run find out total cost & folks can donate to the cause as they see fit. One caveat, I don't think a Mustang will equal John's superflow dyno in loading, but I won't have to spend a months salary for fuel to get me to Wisconsin either :eek: What will be represented is what effect differences in programs net on this truck, if someone wanted to send a Wester or JK reflash we could try those as well, let the chips fall where they I'll be in Jacksonville next week or so doing some turbine work; but when i return I'll look into it. Think on it and see if it's something we want to try.

minisub
05-01-2006, 05:32 PM
I'd send you mine, but it no worky on your truck!

I'm in for some R&D funding however....

teamjnz
05-05-2006, 04:45 AM
Anyone using the Heath Max-E-Tork setup on their truck? Would like to know your opinion.. They claim 65-70hp and 150ftlb torque. True? Worth it? Thanks

I have a 99' Sub made in 98' with Heath's Max-E-Tork and TurboMaster installed. Worth it, most definately.. Nice gains in power :).

nvmtnlion
05-05-2006, 11:12 AM
I am really satisfied with the Maxi-torque's gains in power while maintaining a sane EGT. I had heard that the turbomaster could cause problems when you have a large altitude change, but I have made many trips to Lake Tahoe and back with trailers and had no problems. Boost stays steady and controlled. Next, INTERCOOLER!

Silvy
05-05-2006, 11:43 AM
Steve, with the 4" exhaust and gauges you have your set to go! I am very happy with the Max-E-Tork 2.0 that I have. I don't have the turbomaster, my boost is exactly where I want it anyway on the computer vac system (12-13 psi). Stock, my boost would spike to 10 and fall back to 6 with the right foot planted.

Had i done it over again I'd have put on a 3.5" exhaust (or 4" I guess) just for the sake of lowering the EGT's a bit. I realize an intercooler would benefit me greatly in that department but where is this gonna end already:ro) Had i not found this site my truck would still be completely stock! Since you have a 4" exhaust you should be good.

I took a small video the other day with a digital camera...not the greatest quality and I should have done it from a stand still but it will give you an idea of how it handles with the current mods. I'll post it in here soon.

Edit: ahh, this video system is wierd. Its not working for me when I open it on here but heres the link:
http://video.dieselplace.com/video/25C9A026-1319-4ACF-A648-E0BCC2A3B5FC.htm

CanadianRigger
05-05-2006, 03:07 PM
No worky here either?

gmctd
05-05-2006, 04:18 PM
Far as fuel economy goes (and it does go) - any upgrade that really works inevitably results in drivers succumbing to 'happy feet syndrome', a common malady accompanied by revving engines, screaming turbos, loud exhausts, and squirrely black marks appearing on various streets in the general area.

Thus, fuel economy can improve or drastically drop, depending on which side of the brain gains, and maintains, control of that loose nut behind the steering wheel.

Silvy
05-05-2006, 04:43 PM
well said gmctd. I did not see too much of a mileage change switching to the chip. I may have lost a little as described by gmctd above:ro) but i try not to tear around as much as possible.

I think the video is working now...not that its very good or important. It was with the video function on a digital photo camera. Next to the video theres a description of what the gauges are actually reading.