Well with all the money I spent getting this truck of mine ready to haul a$$ whether I tow or not, its now time to take her back where beyond where the young'ns quit.


I have always had a winch on my truck. When my wife sold my original truck (she got tire of the tetanus shots before she got in!) I took off my Warn 8,000 lb. winch and the PTO drive and drive line. Much to my disappointment there is no way to get the driveline from the tranny to the front end without 4 carrier bearing and at least 3 U-joints. I sure don't relish the idea of fixing a drive line in the snow or the mud!


So, the only other alternative is Hydraulic. Dont even mention electric, those are for those people that need a short pull out a hole. #1 the amount of line on an electric is too short. I have 270 feet of line on the winch now. On occassion I have had to string out 200' to find something to tie on to. #2 under a load the overload protection circut will shut you down after a very short pull. You can spend more time waiting for the electric motor to cool down than you would have if all you had was a shovel! #3 way too pricey for the benefit. So, Hydraulic is the way to go except the commercial units have the same problem as #1. MileMaker tells me that they can match a drive end (motor) for my winch, with the connections to the Power Stering pump. Well thats an issue for me (I think). I just am not sure I want to rely on the PS pump as the supply for the motor on the winch. It just makes more sense to me to have a PTO driven pump, mounted up out of the way. Last thing I want to do is to mount the winch in front of the radiator, I'll move the bumber forward a little then build a bracket and mount between the frame channels and behind the bumper.


Having said all this, is there anyone out there that has the commercial hydraulic MileMarker units on their trucks? Anyone ever used a PTO hydraulic pump and where did you get it? How big of a reservoir? Any other ideas out there? Should I be concerned about using the PS unit as the motor supply?

I always wanted one of those winch's just never got one,I settled for a Warn HS9500I and love it so far.

Several folks on the Land Cruiser 4m tried the Milemarker with the PS pump and found it to be lacking. It's just not designed to last with that kind of workload. I had a friend up here who had several vehicles with hydraulic winches. In all cases he used a PTO driven pump.

I had a milemarker 10,500 winch on my old truck and wished it was on my d-max. Had no problems with it and pulled out alot of trucks with it no problem. I liked it never made noise or took power from the truck.

I had a milemarker 10,500 winch on my old truck and wished it was on my d-max. Had no problems with it and pulled out alot of trucks with it no problem. I liked it never made noise or took power from the truck.


Hooked to the powersteering pump or a PTO pump?

warn has a new hydraulic 15k winch....i would buy that 10 times over that milemarker junk........its found under the industial line

I'd enjoy hearing about this. How/where do you end up hooking it to the ally 1000?

I've been off-roading for years in jeeps, and in this arena, Warn electrics rule. Never even seen a hydraulic. It would be totally useless to you, stalled out in the middle of a water crossing.

I hooked mine up the power steering pump. I would check out the warn too.

I too have used hydraulic, PTO, and electric over the years, including everything from military surplus (to bulky, heavy, but it could pull the frame off the vehicle) to the old Hickey Sidewinder (broke too often, nicely hidden though), to about 6 different Warns. I have a Warn 15000 with extra cable on it, and I use it to death in Mexico, usually pulling cars and trucks out of revines or over an embankment. Best winch I have ever had. Doubled up with pulleys, I have pulled a semi double driver tractor back onto the highway AFTER chaining the rear of my truck to a tree. The Warn has never gotten hot even after long use and I am on my 2nd set of cable after 2 years of use. The only problem I have found is I usually need to chain the rear of the truck to something as the winch will put it even if standing on the brakes. Great winch.

I have a MileMarker still in the box and in the queue for install. I have had multiple Warns over the years with lots of use. They are a lot better made now than their ancestors but their pulling power has always been exagerated (of course with enough snatch blocks and something to tie to, they could pull the world). As far as the MileMarker being junk, the components strike me as being considerably more heavy duty and precision than the Warn.

I am installing a filter in the system, using a synthetic and providing cooling. Dirt and heat is what kills hydraulics rather than stress.

I would be willing to bet a few Jeffersons that my MileMarker will outpull any like-rated Warn.