Talked to a Turbonetics rep at the DeQuoin indoor pull this weekend. He stated they were releasing a charger for lb7 sometime towards the end of the year. 650 horsepower range ball bearing. Anybody heard anything?

650 crank or wheel hp?

how much boost? PSI? How much air does it flow?

I would like to know more about this turbo. Does anyone have any more information?

Bentley

how much boost? PSI? How much air does it flow?

Probably more than yours, see what your in for not waiting, but you can't sit back & wait all the time.

Not real sure on the specifics. He said he was working with a shop in Michigan (Merchant Automotive) perhaps?

Not real sure on the specifics. He said he was working with a shop in Michigan (Merchant Automotive) perhaps?
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haha yes, he is indeed working with Eric (merchant auto) on it.

Um....I umm....I dunno anything.. I swear, nothing

spill it!

I heard he was going to call it Frankenhuffer...):h

Just how big is this said turbo say in comparison to the BD and/or A5000?

Alsom isn't the A5000 rated for up to 650HP applications?

Its AWESOME to see some options coming out for the DMax like the Dodge/Cummins guys have. I honestly think we are slowly but surely catching those guys and it WILL become the ol saying "no replacement for displacement" affair once we are caught up in aftermarket goodies. This may take new blocks and such but it will probably done in just a few short years.

C-ya

thats good news!!! cant wait to see the specs.

I heard he was going to call it Frankenhuffer...):h

Nope, the SALADshooter...:lol:

Just how big is this said turbo say in comparison to the BD and/or A5000?

Alsom isn't the A5000 rated for up to 650HP applications?

Its AWESOME to see some options coming out for the DMax like the Dodge/Cummins guys have. I honestly think we are slowly but surely catching those guys and it WILL become the ol saying "no replacement for displacement" affair once we are caught up in aftermarket goodies. This may take new blocks and such but it will probably done in just a few short years.

C-ya



I hate to burst your bubble but you'll only have the displacement lead for about a year longer. The new 6.7L is 408cu in. Displacement or not you have to have the fuel to make hp. As of right now the p-pump has the lead there.

The A5000 with a wastegate could make upwards of 700hp and maybe a little more as a single. High drive pressure and running it off of the map will make it hard to do in it's current configuration. BTW there is a reason turbo manufacturers go through all the work of mapping compressor wheels ;) .

I just hope that it doesn't sound like the three stooges when you flog it in the low RPM's!!!

Bentley

are they still staying with an I6? displacement is a good thing for torque, but also the fact that they are inlines will help them build torque.

IIRC all things being equal an inline will always make more torque than a V design.

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haha yes, he is indeed working with Eric (merchant auto) on it.



:lol: Well so much for the secret.

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Talked to a Turbonetics rep at the DeQuoin indoor pull this weekend. He stated they were releasing a charger for lb7 sometime towards the end of the year. 650 horsepower range ball bearing. Anybody heard anything?

Ahhh great now there's another turbo to throw in the bowl.

Just when I was thinking it's going to be between BD and Garrett now there's a third option to consider.

But if it won't be until the end of the year that it comes out then maybe I'm back to the original 2.

What's the schedule look like Eric, need a Beta tester ? :D

DD

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Yes the 6.7L is a inline. It will be just a little bigger with a beefier block to accomodate the 4.21" bores and 4mm longer stroke. A bigger CP3, bigger rail, bigger lines, 6spd aisin tranny with triple disk converter. It will also come with a Holset VGT turbo. The down side is EGR and a particulate trap.

IIRC all things being equal an inline will always make more torque than a V design.

V 8 Always more powerful for axample a 3408 (V8)cat engine in a big rig will run 10 circles around any 3406 (I6) engine (even built up ones) only problem with the 3408 is size restriction and no engine brake, and transmissions to put behind them!!! JMO Though

But on topic good news about the turbo!!!!!!
Later,
Caleb

DD just get a BD and be done with it! :D

The BD can easilly push the limits of a stock head bolted Dmax, so if these new turbos turn out to be better than the BD, you'll still be limited by the stock head bolts.

DD just get a BD and be done with it! :D

The BD can easilly push the limits of a stock head bolted Dmax, so if these new turbos turn out to be better than the BD, you'll still be limited by the stock head bolts.


You can run a bigger charger if you wastegate it and keep it on it's map where it's designed to operate. Most turbos dont stay on the map past 45psi and the stock bolts/headgasket will live there.

doh.

I was kinda also saying that to make myself feel better about having an OUTDATED turbo :)

Cause im not doing head studs. So I thought the BD would be the best turbo I could run, only being limited currently by my head bolts.

The BD can easilly push the limits of a stock head bolted Dmax, so if these new turbos turn out to be better than the BD, you'll still be limited by the stock head bolts.

so is this statement true or not?

V 8 Always more powerful for axample a 3408 (V8)cat engine in a big rig will run 10 circles around any 3406 (I6) engine (even built up ones) only problem with the 3408 is size restriction and no engine brake, and transmissions to put behind them!!! JMO Though

But on topic good news about the turbo!!!!!!
Later,
Caleb


If I remember right 3406=3.4 liters per cylinder, 6 cylinders= 20.4 liters.
3408=3.4 liters per cylinder, 8 cylinders= 27.2 liters.

There's your reason for the big pony diference not the V8 design its the displacement.

Hey Eric, if you are looking for an LB7 beta tester I would be more than happy to participate! I can do all the work myself! I would even be willing to not lift it untill the testing was over! Trans will be done this month! Common PPPPPPPPLLLLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSEEEE EEEEEE!!!!!!!!!

Bentley

First of all, the Turbonetics thing to the best of my knowledge has not even left the drawing board. There is nothing even close to being ready to put on a truck. As for that BD Supermax, there is nothing outdated about that. That is a well designed piece that works suprisingly well. Ben. Relax.:)

The inline six cylinder design of the Cummins has a larger piston area per cylinder than the V8 6.6L Duramax. That means more room for air and fuel and a larger explosion crating more torque. The Duramax has smaller and more frequent explosions, which leads to more horsepower. All we have to do is make as big of an explosion in our cylinders as the Cummins guys do and keep the engine in one piece! :eek: :lol:

If I remember right 3406=3.4 liters per cylinder, 6 cylinders= 20.4 liters.
3408=3.4 liters per cylinder, 8 cylinders= 27.2 liters.

There's your reason for the big pony diference not the V8 design its the displacement.

A 3406E CAT is 14.7 liters about 900 ci making up to 550 hp and 1,850 ftlb of torque from the factory, the 600 hp engines were 15.6 liters.

The old detroits used to list cylinder and cubic inch in the engine name like a 671 = 6 cylinder with 71 cubic inches per cylinder or 871 = 8 cylinder.

From my schoolin days IIRC if 2 engines were made the same, as far as cubic inches, intake and exaust efficency and so on and one was a inline design and the other a V, the inline would make more torque because of the way the power is applied to the crank.

But how to make 2 engines identical in every way is the tough part.

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As for that BD Supermax, there is nothing outdated about that. That is a well designed piece that works suprisingly well. Ben. Relax.:)

:D thanks Eric I needed to hear that.:)

Moonshine on saturday!:eek:

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A 3406E CAT is 14.7 liters about 900 ci making up to 550 hp and 1,850 ftlb of torque from the factory, the 600 hp engines were 15.6 liters.

The old detroits used to list cylinder and cubic inch in the engine name like a 671 = 6 cylinder with 71 cubic inches per cylinder or 871 = 8 cylinder.

From my schoolin days IIRC if 2 engines were made the same, as far as cubic inches, intake and exaust efficency and so on and one was a inline design and the other a V, the inline would make more torque because of the way the power is applied to the crank.

But how to make 2 engines identical in every way is the tough part.

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I guess I remembered wrong sorry to stray :offtopic: :o: