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Programmer
02-23-2006, 09:43 PM
Product Feature Announcement...

Realtime tuning the Duramax is now a reality.

Craig at www.moates.net (http://www.moates.net) has finished the hardware --and along with our software package, the ability to tune the LB7 Duramax IN REAL TIME is now a reality. No longer will you have to reburn the flash to test your modifications--test as you make changes--while you drive (dyno preferred) !

This ability will be a free update and included in the DDT package for existing purchasers, with the exception of the interface add-on/retrofit to a LB7 PCM of your choice. Future releases will include the ability to datalog and tune wirelessly (Blue tooth) on the fly as well as some new tricks I know you'll love.

Call for details...

Lyndon
www.ecmprogrammer.com (http://www.ecmprogrammer.com)
Westers Garage
1-888-WESTER-1

OneTALLGMC96
02-23-2006, 10:23 PM
No LLY program Lyndon??

--Matt

fredw
02-23-2006, 10:44 PM
nice to see lyndon, i think this will take this solfware above the others, be nice to tune on the fly at the track or dyno

Brayden
02-23-2006, 11:07 PM
Sure it will :rolleyes:

Especially with a 5000.00 buy in.

Programmer
02-24-2006, 12:13 PM
No LLY program Lyndon??

--Matt

Unfortunately, because of space in the ECU, there's no hardware room.
The PCM itself would need an extensive case modification.

Lyndon
www.ecmprogrammer.com (http://www.ecmprogrammer.com)
Westers Garage

Programmer
02-24-2006, 12:23 PM
Sure it will :rolleyes:

Especially with a 5000.00 buy in.

As stated before, we will support Diesel Tuning shops only.
I know this isn't what the masses want, but we need to be fair to the 'diesel guys' that need to make a living.

Lyndon
www.ecmprogrammer.com (http://www.ecmprogrammer.com)
Westers Garage

Wannabeatadmax
02-24-2006, 07:08 PM
So this is Auto tune pcm ready or isnt ready yet?

When will there be a datalogger/scan tool made available for your software?

Im trying to figure out which package would be better for me to maybe try and start tuning local guys around here, But so far i think the efilive software i think is more complete??? Correct me if im wrong. Im downloading the trial version of their software right now, so i will check it out. I just dont see what the use of a truck computer that can make changes on the fly would matter if i cant see what is going on in the computer when i make the changes.. ??

Brayden
02-24-2006, 08:27 PM
I am a shop :)

Programmer
02-24-2006, 09:59 PM
So this is Auto tune pcm ready or isnt ready yet?

When will there be a datalogger/scan tool made available for your software?

Im trying to figure out which package would be better for me to maybe try and start tuning local guys around here, But so far i think the efilive software i think is more complete??? Correct me if im wrong. Im downloading the trial version of their software right now, so i will check it out. I just dont see what the use of a truck computer that can make changes on the fly would matter if i cant see what is going on in the computer when i make the changes.. ??

I'd say if you don't have a scanner, go with EFI-Live. There's nothing wrong with their software product--I already know I won't get the same sentiment.

I don't see what the use of realtime tuning without a scanner connected is either ! I'm assuming the people in 'the other thread' are going to split their screens or use two laptops or something...not quite sure how they'll be 'real time' communicating and scanning at the same time--but that's not for me to worry about.
We think realtime tuning will be a great add-on feature for our clients and most of them have a Tech2 already--so right now, to rework a scanner is pointless, IMO. We're also working on adding the 6.5TD's with our Duramax package--both of which are highest priority.

Lyndon
Westers Garage
www.ecmprogrammer.com (http://www.ecmprogrammer.com)

Wannabeatadmax
02-24-2006, 10:40 PM
Thanks for answering my questions.

I dont have 4000 for a tech2 scanner right now to add to my cost of things.. It is a nice scanner though..

What about the Allison tranmission editing?

I emailed Efilive support and they said that the scanner system works just fine at the same time as you are editing with the software. So logging for autotuning the fuel and spark via maps i would have made can be done at the same time in another window to paste right into the tune on the fly..

That wouldnt be a possibility with a tech2 right? I have only seen one briefly so i dont know all that it does, I just looked at the prices of one on ebay and kinda got dissapointed.. They sure are proud of that thing..


Does your software have a Compare feature? Like i can take 2 files and copy over the differences if i have one i already did?

Also another important question. Due to the cost of a replacement dmax pcm, What are the chances of the computer going bad durring a flash, even if the battery goes low and looses comunication for some reason?

The tech guy at EFILive said he could pull the cable off while it is writing and the pcm Write would fail but would still be ok, i would just have to reflash it again.. I would have never tried this with my 2002 ls1edit. it would have been dead for sure.... :O

One More question sorry for so many...

The Duel tune things.. i forget what they are called, Anyways.. Is that something from a stock computer can do? So it isnt that big of a deal that they only support it? All i have to do is just wire in a switch on our factory computers and we can switch between to programs?

Thanks again,

Programmer
02-24-2006, 11:54 PM
Thanks for answering my questions.

I dont have 4000 for a tech2 scanner right now to add to my cost of things.. It is a nice scanner though..

What about the Allison tranmission editing?

I emailed Efilive support and they said that the scanner system works just fine at the same time as you are editing with the software. So logging for autotuning the fuel and spark via maps i would have made can be done at the same time in another window to paste right into the tune on the fly..

That wouldnt be a possibility with a tech2 right? I have only seen one briefly so i dont know all that it does, I just looked at the prices of one on ebay and kinda got dissapointed.. They sure are proud of that thing..


Does your software have a Compare feature? Like i can take 2 files and copy over the differences if i have one i already did?

Also another important question. Due to the cost of a replacement dmax pcm, What are the chances of the computer going bad durring a flash, even if the battery goes low and looses comunication for some reason?

The tech guy at EFILive said he could pull the cable off while it is writing and the pcm Write would fail but would still be ok, i would just have to reflash it again.. I would have never tried this with my 2002 ls1edit. it would have been dead for sure.... :O

One More question sorry for so many...

The Duel tune things.. i forget what they are called, Anyways.. Is that something from a stock computer can do? So it isnt that big of a deal that they only support it? All i have to do is just wire in a switch on our factory computers and we can switch between to programs?

Thanks again,

A Tech2 normally sells around $2695.00 -- and up--and is genuine to General Motors--which is why we like it.

I applaud them for figuring out the Allison...wish I had that kind of time (and help). Yes--monitoring with a Tech2 while tuning 'live' won't be a problem. Our software not only has a compare function, but you can also print the tables off, too. Cut and paste, etc...all normal functions.
I can't say I've tried disconnecting the cable while reflashing--I'm not sure you'd want to do that. Our software has plenty of warnings about low battery voltage, leaving lights on, etc...and we recommend pulling 3 fuses when reflashing to make sure the PCM has full attention.
The 'switch' tune was originally Steve Coles' idea (that guy is definitely gifted !)--of which we will never duplicate. Because of the adaptive nature of the transmission, we've decided to let the 'pedal' do the talking. We can make a very 'hot' and very 'streetable' tune at the same time--no need for a switchable tune.

Lyndon
www.ecmprogrammer.com (http://www.ecmprogrammer.com)
Westers Garage

fredw
02-25-2006, 01:31 PM
as you might know, the roads are not the greatest now, but give it a week):h , how is the new tune comming for the bd turbo,

now up to 45psi and higher, and looking for all sorts new found fuel buddy):D :D

Duratys
02-25-2006, 02:53 PM
NEED MORE FUEL :ro) :ro) :D

Programmer
02-26-2006, 10:09 PM
as you might know, the roads are not the greatest now, but give it a week):h , how is the new tune comming for the bd turbo,

now up to 45psi and higher, and looking for all sorts new found fuel buddy):D :D

Won't be a problem. We've got to get you and your laptop in the shop for some updates, anyways.

I'm burning through the first three gears in my LLY-- a little too easy when the road is slick. Now that we've included some trans parameters, the LLY transmission shifts real nice...

Lyndon
www.ecmprogrammer.com (http://www.ecmprogrammer.com)
Westers Garage

Programmer
02-26-2006, 10:10 PM
NEED MORE FUEL :ro) :ro) :D

Yes, you need to drop by too !

Lyndon
www.ecmprogrammer.com (http://www.ecmprogrammer.com)
Westers Garage

C.A.P
02-26-2006, 10:21 PM
Im ready for more fuel to , 45 lbs and fuel I will need!!!!!!!!!!!

Programmer
02-26-2006, 10:35 PM
Extra fuel...never a programming problem...remember that in all likelyhood you're going to need an add-on lift pump (Steve Cole at TTS has an awesome unit), pickup modification in the tank sump and a different fuel filter. I didn't note if you had those modifications yet.

Lyndon
www.ecmprogrammer.com (http://www.ecmprogrammer.com)
Westers Garage

Duratys
02-26-2006, 10:38 PM
Geeze Lyndon........Ya couldnt have waited to tell me it was ready in a couple more weeks??? Now i really dont wanna be here at work :D I cant wait to watch that boost guage peg 45 psi in all gears. :D

C.A.P
02-26-2006, 10:45 PM
Extra fuel...never a programming problem...remember that in all likelyhood you're going to need an add-on lift pump (Steve Cole at TTS has an awesome unit), pickup modification in the tank sump and a different fuel filter. I didn't note if you had those modifications yet.

Lyndon
www.ecmprogrammer.com (http://www.ecmprogrammer.com)
Westers Garage



Lyndon , I will be putting a lift pump on when the turbo goes on , so that wont be a issue. I am really excited to try a custom tune especially for our BD unit OUTSTANDING WORK :ro) :ro)