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: Air intake systems


Matador
03-23-2004, 11:31 PM
Which air intake systems work the best with boxes/programmers, specifically with Juice/Attitude? Please comment along with your choice.

WYO_DMAX
03-24-2004, 09:15 AM
I swiss-cheesed the stock air box and added a K&N filter. Seems to have increased air flow, but I am thinking of going to something like an AFE Stage 1. I'm nervous about switching out the intake runner because I have heard a lot of people saying it tripped codes. Maybe that's a thing of the past.......http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Ermm.gif

Blinky
03-24-2004, 09:55 AM
AFE Stage II.. Love that turbo whine.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Approve.gif

MBRP
03-24-2004, 10:09 AM
I have had many different brands on my 03 and now with two 04s. I really like the Airaid. Very clean and does work well.

WYO_DMAX
03-24-2004, 04:59 PM
MBRP: Have you had any trouble with codes and the Airaid?

chazman
03-24-2004, 05:11 PM
I have the MAC Products air induction system.
http://www.rpmoutlet.com/durafilterc.htm

Deadeye
03-24-2004, 05:29 PM
I have mod my stock box and added a K&N filter. not really noticed any difference. Am considering a UMP filtering system (check group buys) if they ever get it done and the price is ok.

Mark Craig
03-25-2004, 01:01 PM
Morning Members,


Here's some info a customer or ours performed to prove to themselves that the Pro Guard 7 is a quality filtering media. It's also the reason we ONLY sell and distribute the PG7 exclusively!!


Here's what Dan Montegari of Precision Diesel Services says about advanced FLOW engineering's Pro-GUARD 7 filter media:


HIGH FLOW AIR INTAKE SYSTEMS
WHO IS THE BEST & WHY!


We received many letters asking which high flow air intake system to use. We decided to test a number of manufacturers’ systems to determine which system was superior. We tested each system and found systems manufactured by AFE (Advanced Flow Engineering) were the best by far.


Diesel engines use seven times more air than gasoline engines of equivalent size so clean cool air is a must for extended engine life, better fuel economy and additional power. A higher flow of intake air coupled with a high flow exhaust system allows for more power, a better fuel economy, extended engine life and reduced exhaust temperatures. On the other hand ingested dirt through the air intake system becomes Silicon in the engine oil, which is a harsh cutting agent and can damage your engine quickly.


We tested three very popular systems. I will not mention the names of the other systems as a courtesy but I will explain what problems we found with them. We evaluated the systems by a number of criteria, filtration protection, flow, and design, easy of installation and cost. Almost in the beginning of the tests we realized in most instances a new intake system was necessary to achieve our goals. We needed a kit that used mostly outside air and not hot engine compartment air. We decided to use systems designed to use mostly outside air.


Two manufacturers claimed their systems delivered cleaner air at a higher flow but this was far from the truth. We did not believe any of the manufacturers’ claims and tested each system by operating the vehicle 3,000 miles and performing an engine oil analysis to determine Silicon levels in the engine oil. The vehicle we used has an engine oil analysis performed at every oil change so we had a Silicon number of three (3) to base our tests on.


The first manufacturer’s system was fairly easy to install but we had problems with the oil used to coat the filter also coated the Mass Air Flow Sensor causing a service engine lamp to come on. I called the manufacturer but they had no explanation as to why this should happen but they had this complaint before. Through the three thousand mile test I had to clean the sensor three times to stop the service engine lamp from coming on. When the oil analysis results came back, it was discouraging with Silicon levels at eleven (11). I almost could not believe the result so we changed the oil and filter and repeated the test. The results were almost the same eliminating this manufacturer quickly. I contacted the manufacturer to discuss the results and they were not helpful and basically said, “what you see is what you get”!


We installed the second manufacturer’s system again changing the engine oil and operating the vehicle for three thousand miles. The first problem we encountered was the service engine lamp coming on and I thought the oil they used was coating the sensor again. I removed the sensor and found some oil on it which I cleaned off and reinstalled the sensor. Within ten miles the lamp was on again.

Matador
03-25-2004, 04:14 PM
Mark,


Do you know which were the other 2 systems?

sdaver
03-25-2004, 04:28 PM
I have the afe II with the prewrap not sure its the pro-guard 7 media.....gonna order one..........

Mackin
03-25-2004, 04:31 PM
Dave


Don't throw you old AFE out ... Record miles may need it for Spicers test ... Not sure if mine (old) is still available ...


Mac http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Embarrased.gif

sdaver
03-25-2004, 04:40 PM
got two with a combined milage of 70k..........please dont let problem child have onehttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif Edited by: sdaver

Mark Craig
03-26-2004, 09:30 AM
Matador,


Yes, and so do you if you study about it, but I am not one to bash a manufacturer so I am not naming the brands.


Mark @ DPPI

Matador
03-26-2004, 10:24 AM
Mark,


I have a pretty good idea, but I'd like to confirm it. It's probably 2 of the first 3 choices I put in the poll, but then how does the third one compare with AFE?

Bodysurfer
03-26-2004, 12:24 PM
Got a VOLANT system in my rig. Like it and runs good....no error codes.


Here it is installed in my rig:


http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/uploads/3D7_Volant_AirIntake_System_On_My_Rig.JPG

Mark Craig
03-28-2004, 01:15 PM
Matador,


I really don't want to get into a brand war or upset folks that have whatever those other brands might be, sorry.


Mark @ DPPI

MBRP
03-30-2004, 02:20 PM
WYO_ DMAX


Sorry for taking so long.......... Have had no codes with the Airaid.


MB

gmccall
04-01-2004, 08:05 AM
My 0.02 cents,


My AFE Stage II allows a little turbo noise, but apparently gave me no horsepower when tested.


Now for another alarming alert. On another diesel web site, I read where a portion of the paint coating has come off (there is a picture of ) the inside of the air pipe on a duramax owner. No damage was mentioned but that paint went through the system somewhere. So what to do..........http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Confused.gif