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IdahoRob
02-21-2006, 01:46 PM
I'm looking to get an air compressor for my garage. It'd only get use about once a week. Some of the ones I've used are so damn loud.

I'd like a some-what quiet one because I'll be working next to it.

Doesn't need to be fancy, like to keep it under $400.00 if possible, but if needed I'll go higher.

Thanks,
Rob

DURAtotheMAX
02-21-2006, 02:05 PM
Hey Rob-- We had an old Thomas Industries air compressor for a while...then it seized up and I needed an air compressor fast. I went to Home Cheapo (im not allowed to go there or say that word cause my dad owns a retail lumber yard/building materials store:) ) and looked at the compressors they had. I actually was very impressed...they have their own "Husky" brand, but they are made in the USA, and I looked closely at the compressors and saw a little "CH" (campbell hausfeld) so that made me feel pretty good about them. They had one huge one that was 1700$ and then the one right below it was 879$ IIRC. 80 gallon tank, 5hp 230 volt motor (its a real 5hp, not a "peak" 5hp or junk like that), 175 PSI, good warentee, 2 stage, twin cylinder. So far we LOVE it. Its quiet and smooth, but defiently has a "refined rumble of presence" when it runs...like a 60 year old heavy cast iron piece of wood working machinery; I love the sound.:D Anyway, it runs every tool we have VERY easilly...I think its underrated. I couldnt ask for more air or a better price. Do check teh motor tho if you buy one at Home Cheapo. There were 5 of the same model there, 4 of them had a no-nam Brazillian made motor. Only one had an american Emerson motor..and I specifically asked for that one. Its a heavy bugger too...my dad and I had to take the motor off and separate the tank from the compressor to get it downstairs into our shop. I also had to wire a dedicated 30 amp 230 volt circuit for it...no regrets..great machine.

Ben

DURAtotheMAX
02-21-2006, 02:11 PM
ahh sorry Rob...I didnt see that it'd get used once a week. I didnt know how big a compressor you were looking for.

Id still reccomend a stationary compressor that is belt driven. The belt driven compressors run at a much lower speed and are very quiet. Also I would stay away from the craftsman oil-less compressors....those tend to be noisier. Any name brand should be fine. Ingersoll-Rand, Campbell Hausfeld etc... What are you going to be using the compressor for? Id reccomend a 2 stage compressor of at least 20 gallons or so if you are going to be running an impact wrench or spraying paint. Id maybe even check ebay for a used one. A good used name-brand USA made compressor will be better thana new compressor made in TAY-WANN :)

--Ben

partsguy662
02-21-2006, 02:13 PM
Rob, the best I can give you is buy more compressor than you need. Mine set me back 1900+ with the mounting and such, but I'm never out of air. Of course, if you're not into painting and sandblasting, you probably can get away with a much smaller compressor than I can.
What tools do you plan on running?

DURAtotheMAX
02-21-2006, 02:25 PM
Rob, the best I can give you is buy more compressor than you need. Mine set me back 1900+ with the mounting and such, but I'm never out of air. Of course, if you're not into painting and sandblasting, you probably can get away with a much smaller compressor than I can.
What tools do you plan on running?
:exactly: I completely agree Scott!!! Rob decide on a compressor, and then buy the next one above it. You will be kicking yourself if you are using a thirsty tool like an impact wrench (or paint spraying) and you're sitting around waiting for the compressor to recycle. A big tank and high tank pressure (I think ours come on at 125, shuts off at 175) is worth its weight in gold. I can change a set of tires with an impact wrench on my truck (take all 32 lugs off, and tighten them again) without the compressor even coming on.

Scott do you have a rotary compressor? or a big reciprocating compressor? Man 1900 clams...thats a good amount! 3 phase?

partsguy662
02-21-2006, 02:39 PM
Look at the John Deere hood pic in my garage, Ben..The compressor is behind it..
7.5HP, 220V (nope, not 3 phase) 80 Gallon tank..4 Cylinder pump.
It ain't a CH, that's for sure..):h

CStone
02-21-2006, 02:55 PM
Man, I need a 7.5 HP, 1Ph, 213T Frame motor for a used compressor I got on the cheap... (i.e. FREE!). Does anyone know of a place other than the Grainger's and McMaster-Carr's of the world to get such a beast?

(Already got a 5HP Saylor-Beale compressor w/60Gal so I'm not in a big hurry.)

DURAtotheMAX
02-21-2006, 02:59 PM
man that thing is a beast Scott!

dont pick on my CH!! :lol:

ddbackhoe
02-21-2006, 04:37 PM
Man, I need a 7.5 HP, 1Ph, 213T Frame motor for a used compressor I got on the cheap... (i.e. FREE!). Does anyone know of a place other than the Grainger's and McMaster-Carr's of the world to get such a beast?

(Already got a 5HP Saylor-Beale compressor w/60Gal so I'm not in a big hurry.)

try here http://www.emservicenter.com/inventory/details.cfm?item=1032515609

coyotekid
02-21-2006, 06:01 PM
For what it's worth, I needed a compressor too, but I don't do anything that requires a ton of reserve air like spraying paint, so I bought a small Craftsman because I wanted it to be portable and couldn't afford more than $500.

For me, it works great...I don't use if every day by any means but when I do it's great. I have no problem running a 1/2" drive impact--I do run out of air when removing say 4 wheels on a truck, but let it build air for a minute and you're good to go.

mannytranny
02-21-2006, 06:34 PM
I was just looking at compressors both at home depot and lowes.

HD had a Kobalt (Made in America with foreign components) 1.5 horse, 20 gallons, an impact wrench, an air hamer, a die grinder, and one more tool (tools were MIC) all for $250. I was suprised......

Is 1.5 horse way too little for this app?

IdahoRob
02-21-2006, 06:59 PM
Just going to use 1/2" impact and rachet. Working on family vehicles, bikes, etc. and most importantly prepping for race day.

Not painting or blasting, but will buy a US product for sure.

Thanks guys:ro)

dmaxalliTech
02-21-2006, 08:12 PM
I got the big 80 gallon unit from Craftsman to run my shop.. It does quite well even with running as much as we demand from it.

jac6695
02-21-2006, 11:10 PM
Man, I need a 7.5 HP, 1Ph, 213T Frame motor for a used compressor I got on the cheap... (i.e. FREE!). Does anyone know of a place other than the Grainger's and McMaster-Carr's of the world to get such a beast?

(Already got a 5HP Saylor-Beale compressor w/60Gal so I'm not in a big hurry.)
Look for a motor rebuild shop in your town (or large town nearby). They might be able to find you a rebuilt one for cheaper then Grainger or MM-C).

coyotekid
02-22-2006, 02:56 AM
Just going to use 1/2" impact and rachet. Working on family vehicles, bikes, etc. and most importantly prepping for race day.

Not painting or blasting, but will buy a US product for sure.

Thanks guys:ro)

Sounds like your going to do about what I do with mine then, Rob. Mine is only 3 HP MAX, 1.6 "Running" HP with a 4 gallon tank.

I have no problems running a heavy-duty 1/2" impact at full torque. I guess another thing to keep in mind is if you're going to be running it with a generator at the races. Go much bigger than about 2 HP and it's going to take a pretty big generator to get the pump initially started.

farmer0_1
02-22-2006, 10:25 AM
we have had an old 40 gallon belt drive 2hp single cylinder compresser that was old when dad got it gave to him back in the sixtys. runs slow think other than the oil in it I replaced the check valve. takes a little time to build up and I have it shut down at 120. but it just keeps chugging. my brother runs that sears cheepy direct drive. he bought it used for $150 the small tank gets it up to pressure fast. great for small job alittle air tool work thing gets hotter than a pistol . I think it is the oilless version. watch for a good used one from someone that is upgrading. put a add on the "wanted" section. For the little bit of sandblasting I do I use a attachment on my pressure washer. no dust.

CStone
02-22-2006, 11:02 AM
Thanks for the used motor info, guys!

wldtrkyhntr1
02-24-2006, 01:38 PM
Sam's club has a Delta 6.5/80 Stationary for $767.47 Has anyone had any experience with this one?

dmaxalliTech
02-24-2006, 03:19 PM
Sam's club has a Delta 6.5/80 Stationary for $767.47 Has anyone had any experience with this one?I looked at it and it looks identical to what I have.

hdroadkingc
02-24-2006, 09:44 PM
Can you increase the CFM's of a compressor by changing the pulley size. If so which way do you go and which pulley do you change. Just curious.

partsguy662
02-24-2006, 09:55 PM
Can you increase the CFM's of a compressor by changing the pulley size. If so which way do you go and which pulley do you change. Just curious.

Well, in theory you could...smaller pulley on the pump or a larger pulley on the motor..either one would accomplish higher rpm. Personally, I wouldn't recommend doing it though. An air compressor is designed with a specific rpm in mind. Changing that rpm will drop efficency and life of the machine.

Also, take a look at what RPM your compressor runs at...High rpm = High heat. Heat in turn makes for moisture in the tank which gets in your air tools (and it will REALLY piss you off if you're a painter)

wldtrkyhntr1
02-25-2006, 10:27 AM
I looked at it and it looks identical to what I have.
So was the Craftsman cheaper? Atwoods has some too but i have to drive a little over an hour to see what they got. (Stillwater,OK.)

drhutch
02-25-2006, 11:12 AM
I guess another thing to keep in mind is if you're going to be running it with a generator at the races. Go much bigger than about 2 HP and it's going to take a pretty big generator to get the pump initially started.

What he said... I bought a DeVilbiss from Lowes when the store was called Eagle. Last one, floor sample at a great price - $ 250.00. This is a 5 horse (220 single phase) 30 gal tank twin cylinder oil less pump. Loud as hell but the price was right. I plumbed plumbed power and an air line to my shed so if I ever need to do something that takes lots of air and the damn thing will run all the time it will be out of the garage. The only down side is my 4500 w Honda goes directly to it's knees if I try to power up this pump. I am looking now for a small 110v pump to use when I go where there is no power. BTW this pump is identical in appearance to what Sears sells other than paint and name.

dmaxalliTech
02-25-2006, 03:44 PM
So was the Craftsman cheaper? Atwoods has some too but i have to drive a little over an hour to see what they got. (Stillwater,OK.)about 100 more.

Air Man
02-25-2006, 08:44 PM
You guys are killing me!!!:eek:

www.airserviceofnh.com (http://www.airserviceofnh.com)

sbarshie
02-28-2006, 12:43 PM
I bought one of hte Chraftsman oil free ones and regret it everytime I use.
While it works good, it so loud you can't even think! It was about $300 and up to 150psi, 30 gallon.
If your deaf, then it would be great!
Buy a pulley style oil one.

coyotekid
02-28-2006, 02:26 PM
Mine isn't much louder than the tool I'm using...ear plugs are cheap. :)

Brayden
02-28-2006, 06:28 PM
Go for a one with at least 15 cfm @ 175 psi. Most are rated at 90 or 120 in the retail stores.. 175 psi really makes the air tools sing :), and you'll need it when working on bigger equipment.. My IR Composite 3/4 impact eats air, but boy it works good.