Did anyone catch the segment on Trucks TV (Spike Channel) where they installed a Juice on a 2004 Dmax? They showed how easy they are to install, and they showed the power increases at each level.


Good show, very informative. If it wasn't for the fact that I'm afraid to invalidate my warranty, I'd seriously consider installing one.

Yeah, I saw it too. I wish they would have spent more time with it and other Dmax mods. They kinda hurried through it. Pretty good show though.

They hurried through the segment and didn't do a very good job of explaining things. And that truck was slow, he must have done something wrong. It would have been nice if they would have done more mods after the Juice. It was nice to see though. --SS

There was another Trucks episode a while ago where Stacey took a DMAX, added a module, propane as well as nitrous and took some bets with the guys on Horsepower TV and ran the truck on their dyno.. Can't remember the numbers though....

I thought it was a poor segment. When they do a Banks system they spend a whole show on it. Mmmm....


The numbers were very low. It looked like it was a six speed, maybe that's part of it. Also, if you noticed, he didn't have the pyro working. It read 192 on every run.


I am very impressed with my Juice, I wasn't very impressed with that segment.

They ran a whole host of Bullydog stuff including propane and NOS I believe and netted 450's.





192° was the ECT not EGT.





It was a bit of a hurry, BUT I believe that this was to emphasize simplicity of the install.


The one "stock" run (1/4 mile I believe) was incorrect takeoff footage as he laid down a cloud both times. He also did not spool any boost on takeoff from the look of things so the times were not great.

Did you see the Bank's 6 liter Ford hop up ?? Stacy done did beat the snot out of it when he was done ..... http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Approve.gif

Notice the oil drips on the floor under it ???
Just kidding ....

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People need to understand these shows are paid advertising for us manufactures. If we want the whole show it cost X dollars if we only want to have half the show it cost Y dollars. So it's all in how much the manufacture is willing to pay as to how much time you get. The results are given by the show producers. So when you see someone get the whole show it means they just spent more advertising dollars than the company that only got half the show.

Yeah looked like he held the brakes really hard to hose the tires before releasing.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Ermm.gif Both with the Ford and the Dmax.





Rick and Jason saw firsthand what a pair of lines without spinning prior to brake release look like...

Kind of ironic I had just bought and ordered the juice/attitude about oh... 1 minute before I noticed that show being on! I hope it works out!


Dan

Those shows are bought and paid for infomercials. To the tune of $40-50K for a complete show. Banks can certainly afford the whole show. Edge probably bought the segment spot for a mere $18K.

i think he didn't even let the tranny get used to it. when he was doing a burn out did you see the truck learch forward? it looked like it was slaming into gear. and did he calibrate for the tire size either? prolly not.


patrick

I saw the Banks/Ford segment too.. Now that puppy smoked some serious rubber.


I still ain't too excited about adding it, though. Maybe a reversible programmer, but no juice for me (yet...).


I have a strange feeling that my dealer would love to put the responsibility on me to fix whatever broke if he could prove that I'd mod'd the truck.


Interesting comments about the shows being info-mercials. If that's true, which I suspect it is, then who pays for those shows where Stacy rebuilds/modifies/customizes old trucks, like that gorgeous tangerine colored Chevy, or that fugly purple Bronco?Edited by: NCMax

John,


I don't know how you held the tires back, but you did and left a nice pair of not straight marks!!http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Evil Smile.gif Glad to see you kept the boost under 10psi during the launch, hehehehehttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif


As for the Banks box, judging by the dyno plots I saw it is pretty far off its mark. And for the record, that test was on a Load Cell dyno so you can't say it didn't develop max torque. Believe me, the dyno holds the truck back so hard its almost scarey at some points!


Jason

Interesting comments about the shows being info-mercials. If that's true, which I suspect it is, then who pays for those shows where Stacy rebuilds/modifies/customizes old trucks, like that gorgeous tangerine colored Chevy, or that fugly purple Bronco?





Who ever is supplying the parts that are being used pays and they keep the parts as well. I know as I have last years price list for most of the shows in my desk drawer! They started out years back where if we supplied the parts they would do a show but about 5 years ago that all changed. It runs about $25,000 for a 15 minute spot in the show so when you back out commercial time and the show opening and closeing statements that's about a full show. Now I've heard some of the shows are charging more than that this year but I don't have the new price list yet.

I was a bit miffed at the Ford 6.0 PSD hop up. Mainly because Stacey lied about the exhaust on the truck. He stated because the camera couldn't get under the truck, they showed the new Banks exhaust on the ground, instead of being able to show it on the truck. First of all, the truck was up high enough to show...second of all they were hiding the fact that they installed a dual exhaust, not the Banks single exhaust on the floor!! Obviously you'll have to wait for a rerun if you don't remember, but there were tips on both sides blowing smoke!!


Wonder what else he lies about?? Ever notice that when Stacy installed the Attitude on the DMAX, he didn't take the exhaust manifold off to install it, nor did he talk about whether he had the motor running when he drilled and tapped it?? But on the 6.0 PSD, he stated whenever you drill and tap, you have to remove the manifold or else you will blow chips in the turbo. Then proceeded to remove the manifold from the truck and drill and tap it. I enjoy the show and all, but sometimes I wonder about the information going out....http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Evil Smile.gifEdited by: 4x4man

Wonder what else he lies about?? Ever notice that when Stacy installed the Attitude on the DMAX, he didn't take the exhaust manifold off to install it, nor did he talk about whether he had the motor running when he drilled and tapped it?? But on the 6.0 PSD, he stated whenever you drill and tap, you have to remove the manifold or else you will blow chips in the turbo. Then proceeded to remove the manifold from the truck and drill and tap it. I enjoy the show and all, but sometimes I wonder about the information going out....


Didn't it show Stacy pulling the right fender liner and drilling/tapping the exhaust manifold from inside the wheel well? Can anyone who actually has a Juice installed comment on this? If it's true that the manifold has to be removed for installation of the EGT sensor, I'm going to fire off a nasty-gram to Spike TV - no kidding.


Chris in NC

4x4man..........I cought every one of those little misshaps, and wonder too about the info on those shows.


BTW, back when they did the bully dog truck their baseline hp was only 195, whats with that?

Wonder what else he lies about?? Ever notice that when Stacy installed the Attitude on the DMAX, he didn't take the exhaust manifold off to install it, nor did he talk about whether he had the motor running when he drilled and tapped it?? But on the 6.0 PSD, he stated whenever you drill and tap, you have to remove the manifold or else you will blow chips in the turbo. Then proceeded to remove the manifold from the truck and drill and tap it. I enjoy the show and all, but sometimes I wonder about the information going out....






Didn't it show Stacy pulling the right fender liner and drilling/tapping the exhaust manifold from inside the wheel well? Can anyone who actually has a Juice installed comment on this? If it's true that the manifold has to be removed for installation of the EGT sensor, I'm going to fire off a nasty-gram to Spike TV - no kidding.


Chris in NC











Most don't pull the manifold. I do them right on the truck with the engine running.Edited by: Max Power

Those Ferd tires looked like some P-Zero's or something like that. I wonder if they were even "D" rated tires? The soft ones really smoke.....http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Ermm.gif


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Wonder what else he lies about?? Ever notice that when Stacy installed the Attitude on the DMAX, he didn't take the exhaust manifold off to install it, nor did he talk about whether he had the motor running when he drilled and tapped it?? But on the 6.0 PSD, he stated whenever you drill and tap, you have to remove the manifold or else you will blow chips in the turbo. Then proceeded to remove the manifold from the truck and drill and tap it. I enjoy the show and all, but sometimes I wonder about the information going out....






Didn't it show Stacy pulling the right fender liner and drilling/tapping the exhaust manifold from inside the wheel well? Can anyone who actually has a Juice installed comment on this? If it's true that the manifold has to be removed for installation of the EGT sensor, I'm going to fire off a nasty-gram to Spike TV - no kidding.


Chris in NC











Most don't pull the manifold. I do them right on the truck with the engine running.








Banks probably requested do to liability issues .... I'm waiting for a DieselPlace plug ....


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don't hold your breath

Velcro on the fuse box lid is a pretty dead giveaway what was once mounted there... Edited by: Kennedy

NCMAX wrote: or that fugly purple Bronco?


My thoughts exactly. Did they get Ray Charles to paint that mule on the side?

Those shows are good for entertainment, but I don't really pay much attention to them... like all shows, they are edited to show the "ease of installation" and flawless performance of a product... Don't get me wrong they are probably good products, but nothing is as easy as they make it out to be... I think we've all been there.


Dan

Wonder what else he lies about?? Ever notice that when Stacy installed the Attitude on the DMAX, he didn't take the exhaust manifold off to install it, nor did he talk about whether he had the motor running when he drilled and tapped it?? But on the 6.0 PSD, he stated whenever you drill and tap, you have to remove the manifold or else you will blow chips in the turbo. Then proceeded to remove the manifold from the truck and drill and tap it. I enjoy the show and all, but sometimes I wonder about the information going out....


Didn't it show Stacy pulling the right fender liner and drilling/tapping the exhaust manifold from inside the wheel well? Can anyone who actually has a Juice installed comment on this? If it's true that the manifold has to be removed for installation of the EGT sensor, I'm going to fire off a nasty-gram to Spike TV - no kidding.


Chris in NC








Chris, I do remember Stacey having the fender liner taken out of the DMAX, but he didn't show the drilling or tapping part. I think the only thing he showed was when he installed the probe into the manifold and that was it. I remember being rather miffed that he didn't show the entire process for something so simple. Stacey brags so much about helping folks do stuff themselves, yet left WAY too many gaps in that installation IMHO. Thankfully we have a great resource here at the place for information, as well as a lot of detailed write-ups for DIYers...just wonder about the other folks that don't know about this place.


Bob

I don't know how he swung that big old tap holder, but he did. Personally, I use a ratchet. Takes a bit of patience to get started and you have to be sure to neutralize any side load, but it makes it quite easy...

TRUCK RUNNING ALSO

Velcro on the fuse box lid is a pretty dead giveaway what was once mounted there...
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I just went to my parts dealer and bought another fuse box housing (32.00) grabbed the lid off of it, and just leave my juice on the original one whenever I go into service.

Or you could just leave the lid off ...........


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Mac

Good point mackin....DANG...didn't realize I hit XL on my writing