Does anyone have advice on how to prevent wheel hop? Leaf spring modifications? Ladder bars? 4 link setups (w/ leafs?)

Back in High School we used to use an axel brace to keep it from turning.

Pinion snubber with 2 stage shock absorber.

What worked with our cars has been tire selection. A tire that does not slip will not induce hop. ET Streets cured violent hop on both our Camaro (12.52) and the Z06 (11.90).


Axle tramp (wheelhop) is a condition of partial traction. 100% traction, you are fine. Crappy traction you are fine (spin). Even a solid rear will hop with the wrong tires.


Another cheap fix that sometimes works is going nuts on the rebound dampening of the shocks. Put adjustable shocks on, and crank them to max on rebound. As the tires try to hop, the suspension packs down throwing weight on tires to increase bite.

What happened to traction bars?

What happened to traction bars?


Traction bars are not very streetable, don't work well with towing or cornering.


mike

Another cheap fix that sometimes works is going nuts on the rebound dampening of the shocks. Put adjustable shocks on, and crank them to max on rebound. As the tires try to hop, the suspension packs down throwing weight on tires to increase bite.

that's where the Rancho 9000X's come in to play

mtomac


How does your truck launch in 2wd? Ever tried it? How close do you think you could get to your best times in 2wd? Thanks,


mike

Haven't tried it and don't care to. Since I'm carrying the extra weight of the 4wd components I might as well use their traction benefit.

I tow 7000 lbs regularly. I love my traction bars. ZERO axle wrap. ZERO wheel hop.


http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/8/web/344000-344999/344183_121_full.jpg

1BADHD


I think those bars are designed for lift kits.

Nope. They will work on lifted and stock. I have seen them both ways. Anyway, if you guys like the tucked look of traction bars, look at Cal-tracs. I will see if I can find pics online.

What happened to traction bars?


Traction bars are not very streetable, don't work well with towing or cornering.


mike You have made some pretty stupid statements before but I believe this one takes the cake. Well designed bars will work excellent towing and even help cornering.

I see the moderators let you come after me but slap my hands when i say something to you. I will remember that MODERATORS!

What happened to traction bars?


Traction bars are not very streetable, don't work well with towing or cornering.


mike


You have made some pretty stupid statements before but I believe this one takes the cake. Well designed bars will work excellent towing and even help cornering.


Speaking of ( edit), how will a well designed traction bar help with cornering?Edited by: Joey D

What happened to traction bars?


Traction bars are not very streetable, don't work well with towing or cornering.


mike


You have made some pretty stupid statements before but I believe this one takes the cake. Well designed bars will work excellent towing and even help cornering.


Speaking of stupid, how will a well designed traction bar help with cornering? Joey D have you ever tried a set of traction bars? Towing? Or even off road? If you haven't then go try some and come back a call me stupid. If you have then I am guessing they didn't work for you. I have found some designs to firm up the feel of corners while towing but I'm sure that could be a personal preference.

Most bars are of the fixed design and will bind as the suspension cycles up and down. They are not a good design. The distance from the attaching point on the frame increases or decreases as the suspension moves, the length of the bar will not change thus resulting in a forced rotation of the housing. These bars should be set up to be level when mounted with the truck resting on the suspension.


The best design uses a slip joint at the frame to allow for the changes in lenght needed as the suspension cycles, no binding at all from stuff to droop.

I have used traction bars since 1963. They are dangerous in cornering and towing situations. They bind and restrict proper suspension movement which is not safe. You guys decide; it's your family after all and not cpmac's. Think he will cry if you wreck?

Mikey Mikey Mikey??????


I have a set on my 03 and it corners great. They were designed for pulling, racing and above all street use. They don't clang, bang or anything else like that. I use them everyday in extreme off-roading to heavy towing in my farming operation. The suspension flex is just like stock, hell I don't even know they are on the truck. The pinion angle stays true from unloaded to bottomed out. TRACTION BARS are probably the best mod on my truck! They absorb alot and I mean alot of Missouri abuse.


JRmac


If you wan't I could build you a set, You won't be disapointed.Edited by: JRmac

Mikey Mikey Mikey??????


I have a set on my 03 and it corners great. They were designed for pulling, racing and above all street use. They don't clang, bang or anything else like that. I use them everyday in extreme off-roading to heavy towing in my farming operation. The suspension flex is just like stock, hell I don't even know they are on the truck. The pinion angle stays true from unloaded to bottomed out. TRACTION BARS are probably the best mod on my truck! They absorb alot and I mean alot of Missouri abuse.


JRmac


If you wan't I could build you a set, You won't be disapointed.





I have been looking into traction bars but don't know much about their design. do you have pics or know of a manufacturer who makes one similar to what you have, so I could get a sense of how they are built? Thanks,

Deadeye


We have made several sets, they are rubber-bushed at the ends for flex & longevity.


PM me if need more info, and...........I'll try to find some pics?


JRmac

This is my first post here. Bear with me.


Traction bars are not "dangerous". The problem your refering to is called anti-squat. That is the feeling your refering to of your rear end getting light. Actually while towing this is a benefit. Rear is trying to raise with the load on it which inturn puts MUCHO pressure on the ground......


Tire selection is just a bandaid for Axlewrap. The More traction the more wrap your going to have. Sure it might not hop but have someone watch your pinion as you pull away......I will bet a dollar to donuts that it is dancing like a Hula Girl on a washboard road.


I have seen lots of aftermarket designs. Some good, Lot bad. Lets take this step by step and explore what is good and what is bad and what it is that we need for our tow vehicles.


http://www.deckersonline.com/images/Traction_bar.jpg


This is a very common type of Traction bar that I see on Fullsize Pickups. It works but it MUST be the exact right leangth and mounted in just the right spot. If not it will bind something awefulas the axle moves through its arc (caused by the shackle on the Leaves). Go way to control wrap but there are other ways that allow for a bit more flexibility.


http://www.sams4x4store.com/Traction%20Bar.jpg


Now take this example. The two ends of the V are mounted to the axle. Preferably above and below the axle centerline and reasonably close to the pinion itself.


The single end of the V is attached to a shackle which is inturn attached to the frame or most likely a x member.


This system with the shackle allows the bar to actually articulate in the needed arc to accomidate the movement of the spring shackle. Also with two mounting point it is much sturdier.


Fire away with questions and don't ever say a Jeeper didn't give you anything.