Any performance chips or reprogramers available for the LLY????

We have completed our Economy and Tow performance levels and are working on the Race level at this time. We are waiting for the weather to warm up some so we can complete our Tow testing in higher heat levels. We could start selling product in two weeks if we wanted too but we feel it's safer to wait and complete all the warm weather testing before it's released to the public. Hope everyone understands makeing power is easy, make power that works in all conditions takes longer to get all the testing done.

Any performance chips or reprogramers available for the LLY????





We are doing something no one has ever done on the Dmax's, so it is going to be a few months!http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif

QUAD,


When you say never been done on D-max's....do you mean LB7's and LLY's or just LLY's?!?!?!?

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We are doing something no one has ever done on the Dmax's, so it is going to be a few months!http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif


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Nuclear power?, come on at least give us a hint.

It has not been done on either engine.


It is just a new way to do things and we will probably release it for both engines. We should start to tell you guys more in a month or two.


We will also have a tuner, but that is not the new piece!

Quad, thanks for the new oversize injectors and that turbo is BIG.


I can't believe how good the LLY runs now, what is the HP on this box 250 or more?


That 'top secret' piece is trully unbelievable!

















J/K http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif





Just practicing for when the real parts get here.

We have completed our Economy and Tow performance levels and are working on the Race level at this time. We are waiting for the weather to warm up some so we can complete our Tow testing in higher heat levels. We could start selling product in two weeks if we wanted too but we feel it's safer to wait and complete all the warm weather testing before it's released to the public. Hope everyone understands makeing power is easy, make power that works in all conditions takes longer to get all the testing done.


Which is it Steve? In the first line your economy and tow are completed then in the next line your waiting for warmer weather to complete testing. No wonder I couldn't get anywhere with you. You can't even make one post without telling a lie then turning around and telling on yourself.

We all eagerly await progress/news on the LLY HP/Torque mod #'s!


And what mysteries does GM have in store for LLY power junkies? Any hidden error codes detecting power mods? Stay tuned...

New, improved, more powerful computer on the LLY. My guess is a mini-CIA horsepower informant in each one! I really hate it when I have to bet on the GENERAL. Now I got to wait and see. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cry.gif


Dave

CPMAC wrote - "Which is it Steve? In the first line your economy and tow are completed then in the next line your waiting for warmer weather to complete testing. No wonder I couldn't get anywhere with you. You can't even make one post without telling a lie then turning around and telling on yourself."


Developing a software product or software change (thats really what is happening here) usually flows something like this: Write/define requirements for the product, architect/design the product, code the software, test the software and then validate the end product. I took from the post that the coding was complete, the software testing was complete (it works - makes HP/TQ) but the product still needed to be validated to the requirements that were defined for the product. Whether or not that is the way the product was developed, that is the way I read it. Everyone takes something different from these posts. A thousand people with a thousand different views.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif

I'd bet GM didn't provided information up front to these power mod developers and so coding begins with many LLY assumptions. And as one can imagine, software developed to a moving specification takes more than one iteration of a software development cycle.

Be interesting to see how all the manufactures of add on and/or complete ecm changes are able to get around the egr and cats on all 50 state trucks without turning on the light. Edited by: FISHHOG

probably the same way they do on the LS1's. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif

CPMAC wrote - "Which is it Steve? In the first line your economy and tow are completed then in the next line your waiting for warmer weather to complete testing. No wonder I couldn't get anywhere with you. You can't even make one post without telling a lie then turning around and telling on yourself."


Developing a software product or software change (thats really what is happening here) usually flows something like this: Write/define requirements for the product, architect/design the product, code the software, test the software and then validate the end product. I took from the post that the coding was complete, the software testing was complete (it works - makes HP/TQ) but the product still needed to be validated to the requirements that were defined for the product. Whether or not that is the way the product was developed, that is the way I read it. Everyone takes something different from these posts. A thousand people with a thousand different views.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif





Steve,


Don't test it thoroughly... just rush it to market so CPMAC can bash you for not testing it thoroughly... or test it thoroughly and he can bash you for not getting it there soon enough. Then he can bash you for.....I don't know.... lack of world peace? I know there is some stuff going on here behind the scenes that I'm not aware of...stuff that was happening long before I got here, but this petty bullsh*t vendor bashing always seems to show up right in the middle of a perfectly good intellectual exchange of information. (Read thread) Sometimes I just want to http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Throw Up.gif We do have a war room for this right?


On a related note and off topic my doctor says I'm ingesting way to much caffeine, so I'm going to try and cut down. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif


CPMAC, agree to disagree, you don't like Steve or his product. I got that point along time ago. Problem Child doesn't like Uni filters. This is all a given. Move on or contribute something to worthwhile to the thread.


What were we talking about again? Oh yeah LLY chips. Open letter to all the chip vendors: Get em done quick and get em done right cuz these guys here are a tough crowd!


Stepping down of soap box and putting on Nomex suit! http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif


Trippin out!

OC_DMAX


Looks as though you've been around development for awhile as you have defined it properly. CPSmac just loves to try to get things stirred up....... it just let's everyone see what a jerk he is. What is completed is the code, power output requirement and driveability testing. What needs to be done is warm weather towing for final product. Once the weather gets above 85 deg F. we will test for any over temp. conditions when towing at max capacity. , something that we feel is necessary.


FISHHOG


EGR is not a problem as we have been dealing with that since 2002 on the LB7 version.





If you would like to see what power level we were at awhile ago checkout the LA dyno days threads. We had the only modified LLY there!

Trippin I am not going to bash him for not testing it enough. The question asked in this thread was "Any performance chips or reprogramers available for the LLY????" so when he answered that he has 2 tunes done they should be available. If they aren't he should get off the forum and get to work. I'll bet 3 other companies have out products for the lly before tts does. Steve's programs are known for being slow to come and generally poor driveablity so it pisses me off when he gets on here and acts like he's ahead of his competitors.

Trippin I am not going to bash him for not testing it enough. The question asked in this thread was "Any performance chips or reprogramers available for the LLY????" so when he answered that he has 2 tunes done they should be available. If they aren't he should get off the forum and get to work. I'll bet 3 other companies have out products for the lly before tts does. Steve's programs are known for being slow to come and generally poor driveablity so it pisses me off when he gets on here and acts like he's ahead of his competitors. slow to come,perhaps but good things come to those who wait but poor drivability,you must have some kinda darn super va box cause my tts ecm is just like stock cept a whole lot more.explain how the tts has poor drivability.my brother has one that was one of the first 120 s out and he loves it.......

We have completed our Economy and Tow performance levels and are working on the Race level at this time. We are waiting for the weather to warm up some so we can complete our Tow testing in higher heat levels. We could start selling product in two weeks if we wanted too but we feel it's safer to wait and complete all the warm weather testing before it's released to the public. Hope everyone understands makeing power is easy, make power that works in all conditions takes longer to get all the testing done.


We are doing something no one has ever done on the Dmax's, so it is going to be a few months!http://dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big%20Smile.gif


CPMAC,
Both vendors gave us an update as to where they stand with their development on the LLY. Which I am grateful for, it saves me the time of a phone call. You chose to attack only one. Hence my point.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif


Bring something to the community....don't detract from it. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Wink.gif

King D I'm sure some trucks like the tts programming but I know of several 120 loaders that were sent back because they drove terrible. I have names and numbers if you like.


Trippin If you don't understand why I don't "attack" Quad for stating he was a few months away versus Steve's our 2 tunes are complete then you my friend are a waste of oxygen and I don't have time.

If you would like to see what power level we were at awhile ago checkout the LA dyno days threads. We had the only modified LLY there!


Good point!

Trippin If you don't understand why I don't "attack" Quad for stating he was a few months away versus Steve's our 2 tunes are complete then you my friend are a waste of oxygen and I don't have time.


Thanks for the amazing display of intellectual maturity! http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Shocked.gif Once again a personal attack rather than discussing the facts. Steve stated he had two tunes "completed" yet wanted to finish testing them in the heat of the summer. And YOU were the only person who had a problem with the information he provided. I read his statement and thought to myself....he's probably a couple of months away as well. I understand you have a problem with Steve and thats fine, I respect your right to have that opinion. All I'm asking is for you not to highjack a thread with that opinion every time you get a chance. If you really are so short of time.... then please don't waste any more of it here. This community will be much better off without your contributions. And you are correct in one regard. The anti-Cole information you constantly interject is truly a waste of resources.


Most of us here like to have vendor participation. We gather information..... and then here is the really amazing part......We make up our own minds based on that information.


My motto "Question/test everything, keep whats good."


****Disclaimer: I do admit to owning a Quad 215, A Hot Attitude v4.74, A Hot Juice v4.61 and a Banks Six gun/Speed loader. I do have a TTS extreme on order...but waiting to find out about the whole lift pump/supply issue before I take delivery. ***End Disclaimer

Some vendors refrain from posting on the internet. Some really good ones. Why? They often catch heat from parties who just like to throw darts at people. To the untrained eye, it's hard to tell whether someone just has a stick up their ass, or has a legitimate complaint. There is no editorial review or mandatory data verification on internet posts. So anyone can say anything, regardless of how unfounded or destructive it is.


... I know of several 120 loaders that were sent back because they drove terrible. I have names and numbers if you like.


Post them. Also post anything good you have heard about the product. Even Porsche has warranty claims. So if several Porsches went in for warranty work, they are all garbage?

PS - I'll chip my LLY as soon as someone releases a product. Right now, I don't see any for sale.

Oh man...after some reflection on my earlier post I've just realized that I have become part of the problem. I allowed CPMAC to suck me into his "I hate Steve Cole" rant...thereby helping to highjack this thread away from it's original intent.


I humbly beg the community's forgiveness...and further ask that the Moderators snip out all of the above posts between CPMAC and myself and transfer them to a thread in the "War Room" that could be named "CPMAC vs Trippin Round 12" and return this thread to its previous direction. Maybe we can make it a "pay per view" event and help generate revenue for the forum. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Embarrased.gif That way anyone that is interested can come and view our childish bullsh*t,http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Throw Up.gif and the rest can get back to talking about LLY tunes. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif

Trippin there are no lly tunes available so until further notice this thread isn't going anywhere. Also Steve Cole is a liar and I will tell as many people as I can. Obviously no company can make a product to serve everyone or work in every application. I'm sure Steve has some very satisfied Dmax and other vehichle customers but I also know of several that didn't work out. That isn't the problem but the people looking to buy that do their research after reading what I say about him will be able to come to the right decision since there are several instances of him not telling the truth right here on this forum.

Let me reiterate...I respect your opinion...but...In my opinion your becoming like the little boy who cried wolf. WOLF WOLF WOLF..COLE COLE COLE....see it all sounds the same after a while. Kick back..relax.. and when the thread comes up "asking" about TTS experiences good or bad, chime in. This thread just happened to be asking about LLY chips.


You see the stuff I have run and I have yet to see over 440 rwhp. I'm a no drugs kinda guy. Others are making more with the same combo. Perhaps theres something different about some trucks that needs to be investigated. Could be the lift pump thing, could be something else. How about hooking me up with that bad a$$ tune you have that goes 592 rwhp with a bad injector? If it works like that on my truck I might have to join the dark side. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Shocked.gif

http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Approve.gif make a little 4 day trip on my harley to New Orleans and from the look of things did not miss muchhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif

Trippin I could try to get you 592 but I haven't tried to get that much hp on a cali truck yet so I don't know how it would work.

Trippin I could try to get you 592 but I haven't tried to get that much hp on a cali truck yet so I don't know how it would work. cpmac if you can get me the 592 with out drugs,or a turbo pm mr were you need the cash sent to ...thankshttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif

Trippin I could try to get you 592 but I haven't tried to get that much hp on a cali truck yet so I don't know how it would work.


Let's try it and see. Do you want me to run it on a Superflow, Dynojet or a Mustang?

I got a $100 donation do all three

This kinda reminds me when i played football and the doctor told me to turn my head and cough(won't tell you what he was holding at the time.

CPMAC,


I'm almost done gathering pieces for the next "Trippin" marathon dyno session. Are we going to hook up on that tune? How much and how long before I can have it?

Trippin it takes more than a tune to get very far past the low 5's. I never said I ran a tune only, I just said I know how to get there.

I'm ready! What's it take? Is the stuff available for purchase?

Quad,


How about the latest update for the LLY....???http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Ermm.gif