:help:

DAMN IT...Got codes and SES Light today...I rechecked EVERYTHING and all wires and connections are still good...

The code I get is P0401...

NOW, I was not getting this code until I towed my 5th Wheel today...Sure the engine is going to be working harder, but darn it...

Fingers...Has anyone other than me installed on a LBZ? What do you recommend I try now?

Time to turn this into a Fingers offical Beta install... :grd:

Would not having the EGR Blocked cause the stick not to work correctly?

Advise Please... :D



Original Thread:

http://dieselplace.com/forum/showthread.php?t=61719

The connection to the EGR is suspect. Remove and reinstall. That is one of the problems with the scotch lock splices.

The connection to the EGR is suspect. Remove and reinstall. That is one of the problems with the scotch lock splices.

You talking about the wire that is Blue/White that is now Brown/White? You want me to re-tap it?

You talking about the wire that is Blue/White that is now Brown/White? You want me to re-tap it?

Yes. Even in the same place would be fine. The wires are very thin and do not always make good contact. Very common problem unfortunatly.

Ok, I'll do it right now, and report back :)

damm, I had hopes it would work, keep us posted I'm just itchin to kill that cat):h

The FS does not work then not work. All or nothing. Almost always a bad connection. I see a soldering iron in the future....

i hope it works i just orderd one this morning

Ok I am back...

Still getting Codes...I have checked all the connections again...It looks like I am getting a good connection on all wires...

Fingers can you offer any more suggestions?

For the wires that you just "Tap" into, what else can you use vs. the crimp connectors I have used...

Can you confirm that it does work on the LBZ, or am I the first to try? (I think I am the first :) )

One of the first. First to post. Did you clear the codes?

extrax, you need to solder the connections, I tried the scotch loks and got weird performance and a p1093 code. Solder, solder, solder.

chucker

What he said

I see a soldering iron in the future....

Ok, so in order to Solder everything, I will need to cut all the wires correct? Rather than just tapping into them with the scotch connectors?

Cut all, and then solder them all?

You can just strip off the coating, wrap the wire around the truck wire and then solder and tape up with a good electrical tape or a sealing tape. I recommend the 3M super 33+ for a good electrical tape.

You can just strip off the coating, wrap the wire around the truck wire and then solder and tape up with a good electrical tape or a sealing tape. I recommend the 3M super 33+ for a good electrical tape.

Ok, I will work on it tommorow...

Thanks all and I will report back ASAP...

Damn Quick Connects -:t:badidea::lol:

I hate say I told you so but.... :D

You can pull the scotch lock apart and then strip the insulation off with an exacto knife or the like. Then I stick the exacto knife into the wires that I am splicing into and seperate them into 2 groups and make what looks like the eye of a needle. Thread the wire that I'm going to spice into that into the eye and wrap the excess down and around to close the eye. You want the wires touching good and no gaps ect when you go to solder. Use rosin core solder or solder with flux, dont use acid core solder. A small soldering iron will work for these thin wires. If you havent soldered before practice on some spare wires. It looks real easy but it does take a bit of practice to get good.

Oh.....and dont use electrical tape to seal it. Use dielectric tape, self vulcanizing, the liquid tape stuff, heat shrink(with the glue stuff inside, radio shacks heat shrik isnt good IMO for outside connections). If you want to wrap that in electrical tape aftawards to protect it then go for it but electrical tape dont seal for chit.

. . . Use rosin core solder or solder with flux, dont use acid core solder..

Ditto on the solder w/flux. The flux will help the solder flow and form a nice solder connection before the wire gets to hot to hold with your fingers.):h

Ok...

I am going to be busy with work this week, so I am going to have to wait to play with it this weekend...

I report back ASAP...Sorry to keep you all hangin'... :(

any more info on whether or not this is gonna work?

any more info on whether or not this is gonna work?

No, I just got my new Race bike in on Friday, so it is trumping all my efforts to play with the truck considering my 1st race at Daytona is less than 5 weeks away...

I am still getting SES lights, every so often...I just clear them with the PowerPup...

extrakt0r - WHAT IS THE CODE YOU ARE GETTING, IS IT A MAS AIR FLOW CODE OR AN EGR CODE. IS IT THE SAME CODE THAT ALL THE 4.5-05 LLY'S
WERE GETTING?
THANKS

:grd:

Fingers are ther any measurments that can be done to
alow you to assist more in this battle. from what I can tell
after sitting down with a parts guy and looking up stuff.
The mas air flow sensors have the same part numbers for 05 LLY and 06 LBZ. But the 05 LLY and the 06 lbz have diffrent part numbers for the EGR assembly.

extrakt0r - WHAT IS THE CODE YOU ARE GETTING, IS IT A MAS AIR FLOW CODE OR AN EGR CODE. IS IT THE SAME CODE THAT ALL THE 4.5-05 LLY'S
WERE GETTING?
THANKS

As posted before I am getting codes P0401...

I am going to try and play with it today...

any update

any update

Nope, not from me

Race Bike > Finger Stick Troubleshooting

Right now....Sorry...

so who has a LBZ and wants to pick up where extrakt0r left off

I would, just need to buy a fingerstick first.

Jason

I would, just need to buy a fingerstick first.

Jason

do us all a favor and buy one and try it out and if it doesn't work you can get your money back. if i had a LBZ i would do it but i wont have one for a few months

I have an LBZ and I'd be willing to do some testing on our shop truck if Finger wants to "work with us" and provide us some dealer pricing or something.

How much does this Finger stick cost.. . and what exactly does it do besides allow for cat elimination?

I have they day off tommorow, I promise I will re-do my installation and verify that it works...

I'll get it done tommorow 2/6/6

Keep us informed. I am ordering mine tomorrow and also a guy from Idaho for his LBZ.

Fingers (that would be me) is on the road for the next month an unable ot make much progress on this himself till he gets back home. The Finger Stick should work on the LBZs as is, but untill proven, I will have to restrain myself.

Where can I buy all that I need from>??? I installed a catback on Friday and and have a front pipe due in this week. Thanks, I will try and take pictures and post all findings if it will help anyone. -Mat-

I have an LBZ and I'd be willing to do some testing on our shop truck if Finger wants to "work with us" and provide us some dealer pricing or something.

How much does this Finger stick cost.. . and what exactly does it do besides allow for cat elimination?

some of the supporting vendors sells the fingerstick and egr blocker what it allows is for you to block the EGR or just disable it so you dont threw out codes

some of the supporting vendors sells the fingerstick and egr blocker what it allows is for you to block the EGR or just disable it so you dont threw out codes


What?:confused:

What?:confused:

Try the Search button at the top...You can learn anything you want to by using it, including what a Finger Stick is and what it does... :)

What?:confused:

oh and if i could remember i would tell you but kennedy keeps coming to mind but that might be me thinking about lift pumps

So, has anyone been able to get the fingerstick to work on an LBZ?

Yeah, I am waiting patiently for Fingers to give the go ahead so that I can get the stick and get rid of the EGR. I dont think I have ever been this patient about anything in my life, except for the new Pioneer AVIC-Z1 coming out.

i put my finger stick on my lbz and it doesnt work :( i wonder if he would take this back when he has one that works ??

I heard PPE has a EGR code eliminator for the new LLY and LBZ 06 engines......

I just ordered a false code eliminator from Pacific Performance Engineering. $160 assured me no more false 401's or 404's... Will report once I get it. 714.985.4825 if interested, ask for Dan.

so did it work or not maxmscl??

Camaro racer,

I have the ppe code blocker on my truck and it has worked for me for about 2 months now. So far so good.

do you haev pics of it? can you send me a scan of the install instructions? thanks

do you haev pics of it? can you send me a scan of the install instructions? thanks
Me too!

I really want to block my EGR, but don't want something under my hood that looks like a 5 y/o wired it in.

Friend of mine is taking delivery of his LBZ this weekend. Should have a LBZ Finger Stick figured out by the end of next week.....

That is exactly what I wanted to hear, Fingers, you just made my night.

:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

Is this going to be available packaged with a blocker plate through John?

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Is this going to be available packaged with a blocker plate through John?:exactly:I would like to know also.

Yes through Kennedy diesel or any of the other local distributers that carry the FS. I am not selling direct any more. I will announce when they are available. It takes a little while to build them and get them out.

Camaro racer and Rich,
I must apolagize to both of you,because i`m an IDIOT,i am at the limit of my computer skills just logging in and typing in the forum`s.
So i won`t be capable of posting any pics. or instructions at this time,due to my incompetence.
The code blocker has LONG wires coming out of it so wiring and routing are made easily to meet your requirements.
I ran my wires through the loom and under the intake tube as to camouflage them from prying eyes(the dealer)made for a clean install.
Don`t know as of yet if this blocker will help if egr is blocked because i havn`t done this yet.
Does anyone know of an egr plate that will work for the lbz?????

P.S. When Fingers gets this worked out buy one from him or his retailers as they are supporters of this forum.

Phil.

The EGR blocking plate is unchanged from '05.


Yes through Kennedy diesel or any of the other local distributers that carry the FS. I am not selling direct any more. I will announce when they are available. It takes a little while to build them and get them out.
HEY JOHN! Dibs on the first one!

HEY JOHN! Dibs on the first one!


Uhm, no.


Second maybe. ):h

Should have a LBZ Finger Stick figured out by the end of next week.....

So who is road tripping, you or me? ;)

9 AM tomorrow can't get here fast enough :ro)

This is what I've been waiting to here. From what I've read here the PPE code blocker only works with an upgraded exhaust. If the Fingers Stick works with the blocker plate I'm also in. :)

Friend of mine is taking delivery of his LBZ this weekend. Should have a LBZ Finger Stick figured out by the end of next week.....

Is it next week yet?:muahaha:

tick tock tick tock Me too!

Cool something else to add to my list, what about the BS's?

fingers ibought a stickoff of youcani get credit towards theLBZ one? i was one of the early lbz purchasers of it. thanks

FWIW, buy another one. I'm sure some one will purchase the one you've got. I think the time and effort Fingers puts into this for us is worth way more than what we are paying. Just look at PPE...

I'd rather give the $$$ to someone who cares about the product, not about the dollar...

youre right, even if it costs me another $25 its better then spending $160

Post it in the for sale section. I bet it disappears quickly...

Is it the end of the week yet???:joke:

I gathered the information I needed Thursday. The differences are fairly clear compared to the LLY. I will make a few prototypes and get them into a some LBZs. The margins are a lot tighter so I am not 100% I will get it right the first time.

I gathered the information I needed Thursday. The differences are fairly clear compared to the LLY. I will make a few prototypes and get them into a some LBZs. The margins are a lot tighter so I am not 100% I will get it right the first time.

Thank you for the update and for the effort. There are alot of guys (including myself) looking forward to your LBZ product :ro)

Fingers, if you ever get out to SoCal, there's a plate of Fish and Chips and a pint of Guinness waiting for you (and you can enjoy it surrounded by hot college babes).

Fingers
How about the BS?

Fingers
How about the BS?

Well, he logged that data too. One thing at a time.....

Waiting patiently..

:confused: why are the LBZ/lly 06's throwin codes like mad 401-404 I have a customer that pulls a 40' enclosed race trailer and the 10 minutes down the road his truck is running like crap and ses light is on clear the codes put on 100 plus miles without the trailer and no codes until he hooks back up to the trailer

hes runnin the ppe programer:confused:

What's it do without the PPE?

The '06s do seem to be way more sensitive to EGR codes, and some have reported throwing them even stock when towing heavy, but this is the first report of an engine "limp" (running like crap).
Hell, I unplugged my EGR valve for 300 miles and other than the MIL there was no indication there was a problem. I suspect the PPE is messing with something.

Many/most '06s will throw EGR codes with the cat removed, even without blocking the EGR.

I unplugged my egr a while ago. I have the CEL light - the DTC read "low voltage to EGR" - I don't recall the DTC number right now. I plan on a blocker plate as soon as it is available. The exhaust has not thrown any codes for me but I have not used for towing heavy. 13k miles.

This might be a harder nut to crack for all cases. I understand now why the old one didn't work and why the PPE does not work in all cases.

This might be a harder nut to crack for all cases. I understand now why the old one didn't work and why the PPE does not work in all cases.
Personally, as I mentioned in the thread discussing the PPE, having a stealthed EGR code that does not impact driveability/performance does not bother me, as long as the CEL works for other potentially problematic codes.

The only reason I plugged mine back in is because with the light on (think of it as "Engine On" :) ) there would be no way of knowing if there is another problem.

This might be a harder nut to crack for all cases. I understand now why the old one didn't work and why the PPE does not work in all cases.
Ahha. So the truck got smarter.

Need a smarter or maybe just a BIGGER stick.....:muahaha:

it is only throwin codes when the programmer is plugged in and at any one of the three tunes

http://dieselplace.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=18242&stc=1&d=1145123667

http://dieselplace.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=18243&stc=1&d=1145123667

So far, so good - Blocked and "stuck." Fingers wants me to get a week (400 miles or so) on it before declaring victory. :grd:

Sweeeeeeeet!!!!!

what a relief

Well, about 40 miles and 12 ignition cycles (I hate running errands...) and no CEL. :cool:

The quickie blocker plate we made up (yep, that's different too) isn't leaking either. Life seems to be good....

Might be time for a new thread: "Fingerstick on LBZ a SUCCESS"

:cool2:

is there any reason why these programers are thrownin codes like this.?

I can't speak for the programmers

Fingers and MiniSub,

So, you've got the EGR blocked. Are you going to test this with the cat removed as well? Or is that not necessary? My main reason for wanting this, is to be able to run without the cat.

Fingers and MiniSub,

So, you've got the EGR blocked. Are you going to test this with the cat removed as well? Or is that not necessary? My main reason for wanting this, is to be able to run without the cat.

Why?

I have had this thing for a total of 8 days and am trying to sort out: exhaust, tires, rims, bedliner, racks, steps, NAV, flares, CB,........

As far as I know, no one is making enough fuel to create the soot that would make the cat objectionable. Yea, I 'll get the cat delete pipe too someday.... That said, if this is working like Fingers intends, any mods to the exhaust downstream should be invisible to the 'puter.

Fingers, once you are satisfied that the new "Stick" works on the LBZ, are you going to include an EGR blocker plate with it in your kit? Will I need 2 gaskets for the blocker plate?

Thanks.

Why?

As far as I know, no one is making enough fuel to create the soot that would make the cat objectionable. Yea, I 'll get the cat delete pipe too someday.... That said, if this is working like Fingers intends, any mods to the exhaust downstream should be invisible to the 'puter.I agree! So far, I have not found the CAT to be a problem, so mine is staying, at least 'till warranty is gone.

I agree! So far, I have not found the CAT to be a problem, so mine is staying, at least 'till warranty is gone.

I guess I must be missing the point then. I understand the CAT is not a "problem". But I thought you could increase performance and decrease EGT's by removing it in some cases. So, you just want to disable the EGR. Have you found that the EGR is a "problem"?

It is just a matter of time till the power programmers and boxes come to market. The exhausts already exist and people are putting them on. The EGR is one of the first mods that anyone does on there truck it seems. Considering the soot, it has value in itself.

Did Fingers make a new Finger Stick for the LBZ? I remember another member doing this to his LBZ and it wasn't a success. My cat is removed, I don't have a check engine light...yet, but I could get one in the future. I've had the cat out for 4,000 miles already with a 4" MBRP exhaust. I want to block the EGR as well, but waiting for the Finger Stick to be declared successful.

Circuit design for the FS has changed for the LBZ. Mhen MiniSub gets his guages installed, maybe I will play with a BS too.

:D

After MiniSub gets some miles on his and there are no codes, I will trade camaroracer and extrakt0r.

What a nice guy

Circuit design for the FS has changed for the LBZ. Mhen MiniSub gets his guages installed, maybe I will play with a BS too.

:D

After MiniSub gets some miles on his and there are no codes, I will trade camaroracer and extrakt0r.


Is it just miles and driving conditions you are waiting for MiniSub to log, or will start up/driving cycles have an affect as well? Just curious as I am ready to order as soon as you give it the green light!!

What a nice guy

I don't remeber if you bought one to try or not?

Is it just miles and driving conditions you are waiting for MiniSub to log, or will start up/driving cycles have an affect as well? Just curious as I am ready to order as soon as you give it the green light!!

He drives it every day. Being a newer truck, he does a fair number of ignition cycles too. Being a fed truck, it will have to be scanned to make sure there are no codes.

Cool...I will monitor the thread to see what updates come about so I can get my order to you.

I should clarify a little. LBZ Finger Stick is in testing. From here it will go into BETA testing when I get home (May 5th or so) and then into real production. I will need to get feedback from all the major truck configurations prior to a full release. I will let everyone know when it comes out.

I made several changes to the circuit to make it behave for the LBZ. One of the know requirements is going to be a blocker plate whereas with the LLY it was optional.

If you need a Beta tester sign me up, I will be moving from GA to AZ this summer pulling a 24 foot enclosed car hauler.

I should clarify a little. LBZ Finger Stick is in testing. From here it will go into BETA testing when I get home (May 5th or so) and then into real production. I will need to get feedback from all the major truck configurations prior to a full release. I will let everyone know when it comes out.

I made several changes to the circuit to make it behave for the LBZ. One of the know requirements is going to be a blocker plate whereas with the LLY it was optional.

Another beta tester at your disposal. Brand new sitting in the garage waiting for exhaust and EGR mods...

Okay, so, no CEL yet. :cool2: Must have close to 30 ignition cycles on this since Saturday. Driving style? Lots of easy acceleration, runnin' 'round town stuff and LOTS of WOT runs too (50ish to 85 is SWEET!). No heavy loads.

Codes? I don't know. Stopped at AZ and no go (although they assured me over the phone that they could). :mad: Stopped at the local wrench that I know pretty well and he told me he can't read them and no one in our area can either due to the newness and cost (and he is pretty well plugged into the local repair shop network). :banghead:

Okay, so now what? :help: I can have the stick and plate out in 15 minutes and go to the dealer, but how does this conversation go?

"Hi, I have no CEL and no problems, but I've been messing around with the EGR system and would like you to check that I've made it invisible to the ECM." :think:

On any given day I can have the truck 20 miles east or west of Cleveland if anyone has an idea about getting this thing scanned for codes.



To Reiterate what Fingers was saying - this is an ALPHA test.

The one and only version of this circuit is under my hood. Our testing indicates that the ECM test sequence on the LBZ uses much tighter tolerances that the LLY.

Even if this works on my truck forever, it might not on another if its testing parameters are just a bit off since the stick is built to respond to MY truck's specs.

Fingers is on the road for 2.5 more weeks, so no new development will be done before then.

Before these go into production they will need to be BETA tested on numerous trucks of different configurations, please be patient. Emailing Kennedy or Fingers to get one of these is a bit premature. If you want to help, Fingers could use a few more trucks to do some testing on. Cleveland or Pittiburgh area. It's painless, won't damage your vehicle and takes all of about 20 minutes.

We WILL get this sorted out. Rattle on.....:ro)

Have OnStar email you your truck's codes......like in the comercial.

MiniSub,

The Actron CP9125 had no problem reading codes on my 2006 LBZ. You might be able to get it locally, but I just ordered mine off eBay here:
Actron CP9125 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4602343702)
I was able to read and clear codes.

Have OnStar email you your truck's codes......like in the comercial.

Ya know, given my paranoid libertarian bent, OnStar scares me....but there's a really good idea! Glad I got it....I think...now where is my tinfoil cap?....

So do I just push the blue button (that thing scares me, although I've been tempted to push it and ask where I am just to confirm my paranoia)? Do they already know my email address? What else do they know about me....:eek: :muahaha:

MiniSub,

The Actron CP9125 had no problem reading codes on my 2006 LBZ. You might be able to get it locally, but I just ordered mine off eBay here:
Actron CP9125 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4602343702)
I was able to read and clear codes.

That was the unit the AZ guy used and all he got was a "failure to link" message. Could have been an ID ten T error, I'll try the OnStar thing or another autozone tomorrow. Thanks.

The 06 trucks have to have a reader with the Candi module in order to read. Not sure if any of the AZ's have it yet. I bought an Actron last summer ($170.) & the only way it will work is I have to send it back to the factory for a $60. upgrade.

I don't remeber if you bought one to try or not?

No, but thanks for the concern.


That was the unit the AZ guy used and all he got was a "failure to link" message. Could have been an ID ten T error, I'll try the OnStar thing or another autozone tomorrow. Thanks.

The same one didn't work for me too.

How long ago did yu guys buy the CP9125? My understanding is the ones being sold now, will work. I bought mine in early January and it works perfectly. Like I said, I have read codes with it and I have cleared them. Maybe it is a fluke that it works with mine. I seem to remember somebody else on here having success with it, which is why I bought it.

FINGERS send me one to test. I have a lbz and work at a stealership and could test my own codes.

go to your local chevy dealer for an oil change and corner the tech and tell him you will give him 20$ to read your codes. Or have a 6 pack or something. Normaly if your nice to a tech they will be cool. I had my truck in for the glow plug reflashh and was BSing with him and asked him to take a look at my balance rates etc while he was there becasue my truck belched some smoke everynow and then. He did it for me :)

Fingers.....if you need help testing the plate and stick with a stock exhaust leme know :)

I will need California emmissions, stock and modded exhaust as well as fed both ways. A sampling of tunes would help too, but I only know of the Power Pup so far.

i will be happy to help out. iv got a CA emmissions /stock /06 LLY-ZF <-- if your looking for a manulal to test on

be happy to pay some cash up i will be modifying exhaust and blocking EGR soon so eventually will need one......

I have stock exhaust....but a kit sitting.....still undecided if its going on my truck. Its kittyless(the kit, not my truck currently)

fingers, i would be happy to buy one from u to test if u need help. i have a federal emissions truck with catless exhaust, egr already blocked, power pup and do a fair amount of driving, towing and empty. let me know

I will need California emmissions, stock and modded exhaust as well as fed both ways. A sampling of tunes would help too, but I only know of the Power Pup so far.
You got it.... CA '06 LLY, TTS Catback, PowerPup.

Where do you find out if it is a CA or Fed emissions truck?

Still no CEL and,































NO CODES :cool2: :grd:

I will need California emmissions, stock and modded exhaust as well as fed both ways. A sampling of tunes would help too, but I only know of the Power Pup so far.

Fed truck, MBRP Cool Duals and waiting for this to put the cat delete on. I could run it both ways if need be.

Fingers you can use mine as well if needed. Cat back exhaust, Superchips tuner and an AIRAID. Federal truck as far as I know...

I have a power pup, MBRP catless front pipe and cat back. Let me know if you need help. I want this CEL light gone! -Mat-

What's the verdict? It's been a while with no reports. Still working or have there been revisions?

What's the verdict? It's been a while with no reports. Still working or have there been revisions?

Still working, getting on 600 miles now. :cool:

Fingers will be off the road in a week and a half and will be able to make up some more at that time. I would expect that he'll get a few out to vehicles of a variety of configurations (intake, exhaust, programmers, cat, etc.) to make sure this version isn't dialed in for only my truck in its stock configuration.

I'm curious to see if it acts differently on my ZF...

If you need a CA truck with stock and then modded exhaust let me know. stock right now

No Codes!

I finally got a code reader on it thanks to dmax3500 who met me at a rest area near me on his way from Chicago to Jersey this afternoon. I didn't quite trust the OnStar diagnostics, so it was nice to confirm what they had told me.

I can't speak for Fingers, but I would imagine he will be able to get a few more out there in a about a week or so. He's definitely got enough volunteers to cover the bases.

No Codes!

I finally got a code reader on it thanks to dmax3500 who met me at a rest area near me on his way from Chicago to Jersey this afternoon. I didn't quite trust the OnStar diagnostics, so it was nice to confirm what they had told me.

I can't speak for Fingers, but I would imagine he will be able to get a few more out there in a about a week or so. He's definitely got enough volunteers to cover the bases.

What are/aren't you running for exhaust?
Also, have you done any towing?

Thanks for the updates :ro)

What are/aren't you running for exhaust?
Also, have you done any towing?

Thanks for the updates :ro)

I am bone stock except for the blocker and stick and haven't needed to insult the Dmax by hooking up my mighty 5X8 utility trailer to it yet.

I was planning to put a 4" exhaust on next week, but that ran into a snag. Hopefully I will get an exhaust figured out this week. Once I get a week or so on the exhaust, I am going to get a cat delete pipe and run that for a while. (I will be checking mileage closely for each mod, although with a vehicle in the middle of break in I dunno if any of these numbers mean anything....)

The plan then would be to borrow Finger's trailer and pull some hills around his place to totally test it.

Problem is, the last test will require I get a G/N hitch.

So, I am looking for someone in the Pittsburgh area to take me drinking while Fingers cuts the hole in my bed to install the hitch....:help2:

Just to let you guys know our LBZ EGR override circuit has worked on every duramax that it has been installed on. Including cal. and fed. emission trucks, stock and modified.

John

Just to let you guys know our LBZ EGR override circuit has worked on every duramax that it has been installed on. Including cal. and fed. emission trucks, stock and modified.

John

How about with the EGR blocker plate.

Just to let you guys know our LBZ EGR override circuit has worked on every duramax that it has been installed on. Including cal. and fed. emission trucks, stock and modified.

John

Your website does not list any parts for the '06 LBZ. If you have them for the LBZ what is the part number and cost?

John
ruffly how many lbz have it been put on?
carl

John
ruffly how many lbz have it been put on?
carl


I'm sorry, but are your spelling and grammar really that poor?

I know it's :offtopic: but seriously... come on.

but ARE your spelling and ,,, who's calling the kettle black?

somebody request a spell chick?? ;)

but ARE your spelling and ,,, who's calling the kettle black?

Spelling AND Grammar.... ARE two objects.

Thus ARE is appropriate for Plural object referral.


Thanks, but I think it was I who was calling the Kettle Black....


and yes "I" is grammatically correct.

but ARE your spelling and ,,, who's calling the kettle black?
Sorry... he be correct ;)

I kant spall but me kan fax me truk.

somebody request a spell chick?? ;)

Only if she's cute :eek: :cool:


sorry :offtopic:

I'm sorry, but are your spelling and grammar really that poor?

I know it's :offtopic: but seriously... come on.
Sorry Beefy, but your subject verb agreement is wrong. Subject in this case being your not spelling and grammar. So I guess you are a pot calling the kettle black. :lol:

I have the parts now to make the new version. I will be contacting select volunteers for Beta program over the next couple days.

I have the parts now to make the new version. I will be contacting select volunteers for Beta program over the next couple days.
Yahoo!

'06 LLY California truck, TTS catback, stock intake.

How about a new thread as this one has gone too long, too far, has gotten out of hand and off topic, and was originally made because it wasn't a success?

By the way, if you need a TX member, I'll help you out. I have a 4" MBRP catback with front pipe (cat delete) and muffler delete.

That's fine. I will let the Beta people start one as they get theirs installed.

I'm having a little trouble getting a good template for the blocker plate. The Beta people might end up on their own for that. It is different than the LLY

How about a new thread as this one has gone too long, too far, has gotten out of hand and off topic, and was originally made because it wasn't a success?
Yea, I've been thinking for a while that we would need a new thread; "Finger Stick on LBZ a Success."

Since I am the only one running around with one that works, this thread seems fine for now, but I agree is getting a bit long and scattered.

Lets let Fingers get some test units out there and then start his own "success" thread. Until he does, I am posting here.

I'm having a little trouble getting a good template for the blocker plate. The Beta people might end up on their own for that. It is different than the LLY

Can anyone get me the part number for the gasket between the jacket and flex pipe? I went to my local dealer and he got me the wrong one the first time; then couldn't find the part at all when I went to pick it up (computer shows no gasket?). I swear it looked like there was one in there when we put in the plate, if I can get a P/N I can order one and have it in a day or two and we can get plates made up.

Alternately, if someone has a gasket for an LBZ and wants to scan it next to a ruler and email it to me - GREAT!

Can anyone get me the part number for the gasket between the jacket and flex pipe? I went to my local dealer and he got me the wrong one the first time; then couldn't find the part at all when I went to pick it up (computer shows no gasket?). I swear it looked like there was one in there when we put in the plate, if I can get a P/N I can order one and have it in a day or two and we can get plates made up.

Alternately, if someone has a gasket for an LBZ and wants to scan it next to a ruler and email it to me - GREAT!

I'll be at my dealer in a couple of days so I can check on a PN. What are you using for blocker plate stock?

Any thickness of SS stock. Thin is better.

Sorry Beefy, but your subject verb agreement is wrong. Subject in this case being your not spelling and grammar. So I guess you are a pot calling the kettle black. :lol:

"Your" is the subject huh?:lol: Let me guess, English is your second language;)

It just doesn't feel fair being in the argument with you two, so I think I'm done...


Sorry Fingers, for mucking up your thread by correcting the undereducated...

It's obviously "pearls to swine" at this point.

How about a new thread as this one has gone too long, too far, has gotten out of hand and off topic, and was originally made because it wasn't a success?

Good idea! Spelling and Grammar has nothing to do with this thread and should have never been mentioned in the first place. It was nothing but a childish insult to someone who was asking a simple question.

Back on topic ;) Way to go Fingers! Wont be long till your hard work pays off and we have LBZ sticks :clap: Then down with the evil EGR's :D

I have a bone stock truck but a full exhaust(with cat delete) to put back on if you need any help.

So do we have someone working on the plates?

So do we have someone working on the plates?

I am going to pull mine out and scan it so Fingers can digitize it and create a good template.

I could have sworn when I put it in that there was a gasket in there too. Went to the Chevy dealer day before yesterday and they couldn't find a P/N for the gasket. Anybody know if they've gone to a dry fit or what the P/N for that gasket would be? This would be the best way to make a new plate.

Did you get to look over the partsmonkey's sholder and see the comp screen? I mean did he say he couldnt find the part or did you put your fuzzy eyeball on the diagram and not see a gasket? If its just a case of a stupid dealer I could go see what I can scrounge up and order one or get you a PN if it will help

anyone have confirmation on there being a gasket? I feel like a boob since I havent realy looked under my hood all that close on this truck :o:

Waty to go Fingers,if you need another test truck let me know im in Lancaster Pa.

Yes, I saw the screen and there was no gasket indicated. However, the drawing we pulled up did not show the flex pipe either, so it might be listed in that unit drawing; he couldn't find it however. Thanks for whatever help you can provide.

I'll go talk to the parts monkey and see what if anything I can dig up.......

The part # for the 06 LLY/LBZ gasket is 97372002

Ben YOU ARE THE MAN!











Does this count another get outa jail free card ;) I liked the other one better but this was most helpfull ;) :D

:thankyou2

Second the MAN!

Thanks guys.

Just called and ordered one up. Guess I'll pick it up on Monday.

ok so how soon till egr blockers??? i want one on the truck along with the LBZ finger stick asap!!

IF I get the template from MiniSub Monday, I will send plates out with the Betas

wooo hooo you rock fingers!!!

How long after the beta testing, till the rest of us can get one? Thanks in advance.

:thankyou2

Second the MAN!

Thanks guys.

Just called and ordered one up. Guess I'll pick it up on Monday.

I should have checked this thread for updates. I unknowingly ordered the gasket PN. 97372002 to send to fingers for the template. Oh well, I guess I can just throw it in with my spare parts collection. :)

I have a stock 06 LLY. I don't know how to tell if it is Fed or Cal emissions, but I would be willing to do beta testing.

I ordered a couple of gaskets yesterday so hopefully next week I will get my plate installed. I will just deal with the cel for a while.

I have a stock 06 LLY. I don't know how to tell if it is Fed or Cal emissions, but I would be willing to do beta testing.

Look at the label in the glove box and you will see one of the following codes.

FE9 is Federal Emissions
NE1 is Northeast Emissions. (NT,VT,MA, ME)
YF5 is California Emissions

Look at the label in the glove box and you will see one of the following codes.

FE9 is Federal Emissions
NE1 is Northeast Emissions. (NT,VT,MA, ME)
YF5 is California EmissionsThanks for the info. I'll be sure to check when I get home.

Federal goodness here for me :D

So minisub......howed the weekend go? You guys make any progress?

I got busy and didnt get a chance to put on my exhaust.......so I'm still stock.....maybe this weekend :rolleyes:

Progress? Yes, we made lot's of progress - about 320 miles worth of progress West to Merchant's GTG! :cool2:

Had a blast, didn't get much work of any kind done tho'

Off to the dealer at lunch, will scan the gasket and get it to Fingers this afternoon.

Cool deal.....didnt know you went to the GTG. If you need any help leme know :)

If anyone wants to carve up their own blocker plate here is an image of the gasket with a ruler for scale.

Thanks!

Any idea when will these be availible for sale? To be honest by the time I get me some SS and zap it out on the plasma cutter its not worth the $ to me to just buy one of em. But if its needed for testing of the stick etc or we need one made etc I can zap one out easy enough. Its just that by the time I drive and get material(and put fuel in the truck), pay for the material, then spend the time to make it etc.....I just rather pay for the darn thing :lol:

Plates will come with the new LBZ sticks.

Any idea when the sticks will be out?

Plates will come with the new LBZ sticks.

:clap: No slicing myself with sharp objects or cursing when I screw up one cut and have to go back to the store for more material.

fingers any updates??? im anxious

I PMed you earlier......

First Plates are hand made till I make the pattern for the laser cutter.

Beta's went out today. I wanted to ship plates with the Sticks.

Fingers......I cant see how its worth the little $$$ you make for all this(hell do you even make $$$ after running all over hell etc). I'm just glad you took up this hobby, we all benift tremendously :thumb:

...after running all over hell etc.
Hey, my place needs some work but it's not that bad :eek: ;)

Seriously, 2 trips to my place in 3 days at 300 miles per trip and at $3/gallon adds up to a little bit of R&D expense...

I'm just glad you took up this hobby, we all benift tremendously :thumb:
:exactly:

Hey, my place needs some work but it's not that bad :eek: ;)

Seriously, 2 trips to my place in 3 days at 300 miles per trip and at $3/gallon adds up to a little bit of R&D expense...


:exactly:

:lol:

And BTW thanks for your contribution too. Your alright even if you have a 6.5 and drive a new GMC ):h

Word is I have my own room at MiniSub's house, I've been there so much as of late.

First Plates are hand made till I make the pattern for the laser cutter.

Beta's went out today. I wanted to ship plates with the Sticks.
Do you need a few extra bucks to cover the plate?
Lemme know.

Beta tester bonus.

Fingers......I cant see how its worth the little $$$ you make for all this(hell do you even make $$$ after running all over hell etc). I'm just glad you took up this hobby, we all benift tremendously :thumb:

:exactly: These kits are worth a lot more $$$. Just look at what the other venders are charging for these kits which was Fingers idea in the 1st place. And one in particular will not work if anything more than an exhaust is installed. Fingers is the man.... No doubt! :thumb:

Big Props to Fingers and all of the Beta Testers on working this out! Once they new set up has been given the full blessing of Fingers I will be placing my order!!! :bow:

Big Props to Fingers and all of the Beta Testers on working this out! Once they new set up has been given the full blessing of Fingers I will be placing my order!!! :bow:


X2 :exactly:

That's right! Keep up the good work

i tried a blocker plate on my LBZ TODAY. IT WAS SUPPLIED BY DSG IN SASKATOON SK. IT MATCHES THE TEMPLATE THAT MINISUB POSTED. BUT IT IS TOO SMALL .. THE BOLT PATTERN IS SHORT BY 3/8 ". WHEN YOU DROP THE ONE FLANGE OVER THE BOLT, THE OTHER SIDE DROPS PAST THE FLANGE BOLT. ANY ONE ELSE RUN UP AGAINST THIS ONE YET?

i tried a blocker plate on my LBZ TODAY. IT WAS SUPPLIED BY DSG IN SASKATOON SK. IT MATCHES THE TEMPLATE THAT MINISUB POSTED. BUT IT IS TOO SMALL .. THE BOLT PATTERN IS SHORT BY 3/8 ". WHEN YOU DROP THE ONE FLANGE OVER THE BOLT, THE OTHER SIDE DROPS PAST THE FLANGE BOLT. ANY ONE ELSE RUN UP AGAINST THIS ONE YET?

The gasket I posted is 3 1/4 " center to center on the holes and is 2 3/4" top to bottom. The LLY plate I have here is 2 3/4" center to center and only 2" tall.

Which plate did they send you?

Seems your issue is with DSG

:exactly: I wouldn't buy a steak at Walmart then ask the cook at Ruth's Chris about quality issues.

Thank You For Responding. For Sure They Sent A Lly Plate. I Spoke With Them This Morning, They Are Un-aware That The Lbz Plate Is Larger. I Am Sure They Will Sort It Out. Dsg Have Been An Excellent Source Of Knowledge For Those Of Us Living "way Up Here" In Western Canada. Thank You.

I hope that they are not "un-aware" that the electronics are different too...

So, since I didn't get picked to be a beta tester, how long before I can buy the stick?

Here's what I got:

2006 LLY. I'll keep this simple:

Custom Made EGR blocker plate=workie (since the premade/sold one aint the right size). Exhaust runs 200+ degrees cooler.
With blocker plate Fingers Stick=no workie
With blocker plate PPE Code Blocker=no workie
Bullydog Tuner Level 2, speed limit set to 135. Max speed 126.4 due to fuel shutoff at 3200 rpm. I requested to Justin at Bullydog a bump in the fuel shutoff limiter.

You'll need to buy the EGR gasket from Chevy and make your own blocker plate. The 2005 plate is too small.

Ham does not have one of the LBZ betas I sent out.

I'd be happy to test it!!!!!!!

Fingers - I PM'd you with my addy. DO you need some cashola?

Mine arrived yesterday. It sat at the FedEx terminal all weekend because it wasn't "scheduled for delivery"... same for my Amsoil order. I had planned on doing regular maint on the truck and installing the stick.

Hopefully I'll have time next weekend.

Got mine and plan to install this weekend. Directions same for the LBZ as the 2nd gen LLY?

Thanks fingers :)

Directions are the same but the wire colors are different. You have to go by where the wires go into the connectors.

Sorry for the delays, I was trying to save a buck. :)

Fingers-

let me know if you need another Beta tester. My original stick (obviously) didn't work, and the PPE code blocker is, well, useless now that I have put in a blocker plate. I guess a piece of black tape for now will solve my SES light problem. BTW, clear the codes, they come back in, oh, 5 minutes. Darn!

the EGR wire color on my rig is Brown with a wight strip jsut wanta see if everyone elses are the same color? and im talkign about a 2006 LLY/LBZ not the blue with wight stripe on the 05 and down LLY's

I would also like to make a sugestion to Fingers on the final modles make the EGR wire a bit longer i would say about 12" 14"make for a cleen install coming back throu the EGR loom from the MAF loom

And is it working?

am about to install the plate and head home and let ya know tomarow morning

Got mine and plan to install this weekend. Directions same for the LBZ as the 2nd gen LLY?

Thanks fingers :)

I'll also be installing the stick and plate this weekend. I'll have normal driving on it untill Thursday then will be towing for about 4000 miles afterwards. Should be a good test. :)

How about changing this threads title from "Finger Stick on LBZ NOT a Success" to something else like "LBZ Finger Stick Beta testing in progress"? Just a thought...

what the smell is a finger stick??:confused:

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