EFILive DSP˛ - Duramax Switchable Program˛ - for LB7 and LLY

EFILive is pleased to announce another Duramax first – DSP˛, our custom operating system that allows you to switch on the fly between 2 tunes that you create. Not only do you now have the ability to change on the fly with EFILive, you also have the ability to create as many DSP˛ tunes as you like – one for every occasion.

Do you ….
Want additional HP when passing, but want to run an economy tune most of the time?
Need to switch between 2 of your favourite tunes on the road without your laptop?
Want to switch off N2O on TCM shifts when racing?
Need tunes to match the driver’s of your vehicle – a “his” and “hers” tune?
Want to limit speed and boost like a Valet mode?

All this and more is possible with EFILive’s DSP˛.

How does it mechanically work? It’s simple really. All you need is a Single Throw Toggle switch, ECM pin and wire, and you are set to install. We don’t need your ECM and your ECM doesn’t need to be modified. Just wire up the switch to the defined ECM pin and your install is done.

How does the software work? You create your twin tunes in DSP˛, our custom operating system, then upload your DSP˛ via EFILive’s FULL FLASH process.

If this isn’t enough, DSP˛ also has 9 user definable thresholds that will switch an ECM controlled output.

Yes that’s right, you define when the output will switch based on parameters like
Boost Levels,
RPM,
Throttle Position

This output could be used to control
Shift Light
Warning lamps
Water injection
N2O cut (throttle must be above 90% etc)

What version of EFILive do I need? You will need a Commercial or Workshop version of EFILive. DSP˛ will NOT work with the Personal version of EFILive, this is because our Personal version cannot do a Full Flash to the ECM. Upgrade from Personal to Commerical is $150 which can be done online.

DSP˛ has been in BETA test for a number of weeks. LB7 has been comprehensively tested with GREAT results. LLY BETA test has just commenced. EFILive’s DSP˛ release will occur between late January and mid February. DSP˛ will be a FREE downloadable upgrade from www.efilive.com (http://www.efilive.com/)

Cheers,
Ross

:cool2:

That will save me from buying a laptop for the truck!

It works very well......:)

You can have the type of tunes "YOU" want...no need to ship ECM's or send back handhelds.

If you want a small change to your custom tune, just make the change.

A nice economy tune for those trips with an absolute monster for those special passing occasions.

Two race tunes, one for fuel only and one for N02......

The switchable feature is nice as well as the logging/scanning, DTC resets and there will be more to come.

T:cool: NY

How about a momentary contact, that switches to a tune with a wide-open turbo-vane map...

To signal that someone is following too close.

How about a momentary contact, that switches to a tune with a wide-open turbo-vane map...

To signal that someone is following too close.


:iamwithst I like this guys thinking

How about a momentary contact, that switches to a tune with a wide-open turbo-vane map...

To signal that someone is following too close.

LLY has the turbo vane map as switchable, screen shot was from the LB7 version.

Cheers,
Ross

Please excuse my ignorance but can you put back the stock program 100% for dealer visits?

Yes you can return it to stock in a matter of a minute or two.

So is this the same pin used for enabling the high idle function?

So is this the same pin used for enabling the high idle function?

I would assume,

No it is a different pin position. High idle will still function as it does now.

It is the same pin part # just a different location.

I assumed he meant we could use a high idle kit though to enable this feature?

I just wondered if it was the same part #, not the same pin position. I wondered if those leftover pins I have laying around will work for this. Good to know they will.

I assumed he meant we could use a high idle kit though to enable this feature?

Yes you can use the high idle kit but you have to wire it to a different pin in the PCM then you would for the high idle.

This is way cool...I need EFILive! First I need the cash...then I need the knowledge to use it!

I don't want to drag this thread off topic, but if there's enough interest in it, I'll make the necessary arrangements to get more pins for LLYs and LB7s along with becoming a limited vendor.

I don't want to drag this thread off topic, but if there's enough interest in it, I'll make the necessary arrangements to get more pins for LLYs and LB7s along with becoming a limited vendor.

If you mean coming up with an install kit......nice switch, wire, pins etc then that is a good idea. We did not want to do that as we figured there is others out there who deserve the opportunity to come up with these neat little add-ons and make a few $$ on the side.
I have pictured in my head custom screen printed switch labels with whatever you wanted to call the switched tune.

Cheers,
Ross

This is way cool...I need EFILive! First I need the cash...then I need the knowledge to use it!

I don't want to drag this thread off topic, but if there's enough interest in it, I'll make the necessary arrangements to get more pins for LLYs and LB7s along with becoming a limited vendor.

I'll take a few. :cool2:

All right! All right! Uncle! I give!

I just ordered the commercial program from Kennedy. All I need now is a switch labeled "Lean" and "Mean" , a couple of programs and some cooling water for the Mastercard!

I can see it now:

Dealer: "you runnin' a chip?"
Me: "Naw! I wouldn't do THAT!"
Dealer: "you runnin' a programmer?"
Me: "what's that?"
Dealer: "WTF is this wire and switch on your PCM?"
Me: "DOH!"

I don't want to drag this thread off topic, but if there's enough interest in it, I'll make the necessary arrangements to get more pins for LLYs and LB7s along with becoming a limited vendor.

I'll need one too!

What kinds of switches do you guys like? I was thinking a nice rotary one would be cool--or do you guys prefer toggle style?

Pins switches and wiring will be included in the Commercial kits sold by SoCal Diesel.

Well then I guess that kinda covers that, Guy! :)

Good work!

Well then I guess that kinda covers that, Guy! :)

Good work!

I'm sorry, :( It is something I already had in the works, I had no idea they were going to make an announcement before it was out of Beta. I was out of town and without internet access and just got suprised with this today.

There are many others that purchase EFILive from other sources that I'm sure would be willing to purchase a switch kit from you.

Pins switches and wiring will be included in the Commercial kits sold by SoCal Diesel.

So if I upgrade from personal to commercial through you? Yes or No

No worries at all, Guy...it's a really minor deal. I guess if there's enough demand I'll do it, but I doubt it would be worth it when I have to order such large quantities.

No hard feelings at all though!

So if I upgrade from personal to commercial through you? Yes or No

Yes.

Yes.

Awesome, thanks Guy!

Glad I bought it from you origionally then, hopefully the post office don't take forever to get this package here this time!

Awesome, thanks Guy!

Glad I bought it from you origionally then, hopefully the post office don't take forever to get this package here this time!

The upgrade is done through a downloadable key code once you pay the upgrade fee.

It takes a few minutes to update the Flashscan Cable.

The only thing Guy will need to ship is the Switch/Pin with wiring if you go that route.

T:cool: NY

Ok, just upgraded to the commercial. typed in license key, upgraded the cable.

It now reads commercial scan&tune under the license manager and under the about menu. It appears I have the full flash ability. I have not hooked the cable to the truck yet since the upgrade to check for the lock ability.

The only problem I am having is the Electronic Throttle Control tables are not listed.

Am I missing something here???

Hehehehe...

This wouldn't be at all noticable, would it???
http://www.12vp.com/Red_3_60.jpg

Seriously though, I think I'm gonna go for something more along the lines of a simple rocker switch mounted somewhere convienient, yet out of sight.
http://images.orgill.com/200x200/2458453.JPG

If one was going somewhere for the night, or letting someone borrrow their rig you could reflash it and and use this as a valet switch also. Some more food for thought.........

The only problem I see with a lighted switch is that it will not really be an "on/off" switch, so I'm not sure you'd want a lighted one.

I'm still open to suggestions--if nobody is interested in me making a kit, no problem on my end.

Why don't you start a poll with some different switch designs, and we can vote which one (or two) we like the best. I figure, if I need to source a pin, I might as well get one with a wire crimped on already and a switch...

Coyote, a simple toggle switch that would with a short throw, that could be mounted on the pillar in the corner of a gauge pod would look good IMO. I'll have to see what guy mails my way when I upgrade.

Ok, just upgraded to the commercial. typed in license key, upgraded the cable.

It now reads commercial scan&tune under the license manager and under the about menu. It appears I have the full flash ability. I have not hooked the cable to the truck yet since the upgrade to check for the lock ability.

The only problem I am having is the Electronic Throttle Control tables are not listed.

Am I missing something here???

I have asked for it in the past. As far as I know Electronic Throttle control is not being offered on the Dmaxes at this time, only the LSx gas motors.

I have asked for it in the past. As far as I know Electronic Throttle control is not being offered on the Dmaxes at this time, only the LSx gas motors.

That is correct Guy, you have and it isn't :)

Cheers,
Ross

I'm busy today, but I'll try to get a poll set up shortly. Patience, grasshoppers.):h

I'm sure someone will want one of these for "valet"...T

Ok, just upgraded to the commercial. typed in license key, upgraded the cable.

It now reads commercial scan&tune under the license manager and under the about menu. It appears I have the full flash ability. I have not hooked the cable to the truck yet since the upgrade to check for the lock ability.

The only problem I am having is the Electronic Throttle Control tables are not listed.

Am I missing something here???

Yes, you're missing a throttle plate. Diesels don't have them.

I am loving DSP2. You guys are going to love it when it hits public release :)

I am loving DSP2. You guys are going to love it when it hits public release :)

Sure Tony, just rub it it. :lol:

I am loving DSP2. You guys are going to love it when it hits public release :)

I might as well chime in............

:ro) :ro) :ro)

Go from WOW to HOLY $%@^#()#) at the flip of a toggle switch.....:cool:

OK, I give do you both have to rub it in? Lol

Sure Tony, just rub it it. :lol:
The good thing about EFILIve is they don't p!ss around. They will have it ready for public release very shortly.

Any new news on a release date??

It shouldn't be too long now. Just need to find all the little bugs that nag. Hoping to be able to try it out today on my LLY. I've done the LB7 for a friend and it is working great.

Any new news on a release date??
It's working great so far. I would imagine it should move along pretty quickly now.

Can´t find a picture of one anywhere, but I would take the traction control switch as found in Denalis etc. After all traction is just a matter of torque available:D:D:D

Found one: http://www.gmc.com/images/yukon/photos/yknd_int_radio_lrg.jpg

Does anyone have the part number for that panel? I think a keyed switch would be cool in there...

Here's 2 OEM switches that could be used. The O/D lockout would be nice. A little paint thinner to clean the white paint off and your all set. If the light can be lit when ON that would be :cool2:

Does anyone have the part number for that panel? I think a keyed switch would be cool in there...


I'll have it in a few days. I've ordered one from my dealer. I think it is only $5 or so.

I like the idea of the traction control switch. Hit the button, lose traction:grd:

hell use the airbag switch. Screw the passenger.

I'll have it in a few days. I've ordered one from my dealer. I think it is only $5 or so.
Brilliant! Max, can you post the part # for the airbag switch? That would be PERFECT, since I have a crew cab and that area is just an empty pocket anyways. :cool2:

My airbag key switch in my EC uses the ignition key. I don't know if any GM truck ignition key will turn it, but it wouldn't be as handly as a push button or toggle switch.

My airbag key switch in my EC uses the ignition key. I don't know if any GM truck ignition key will turn it, but it wouldn't be as handly as a push button or toggle switch.

That is a good point. I do have a spare set of keys I keep with me though.

Might be good to keep my brothers from playing with it when I let them drive it ):h

What about the snowplow prep button?

What about the snowplow prep button?

Got a part number by chance?? We'll see what trippin sends out as part of the upgrade package, but what I really need from him is the ECM pin :cool:

My airbag key switch in my EC uses the ignition key. I don't know if any GM truck ignition key will turn it, but it wouldn't be as handly as a push button or toggle switch. Any key will work.

Hide it where people don't know how to find or mess with it, OR use one of those neat little rocker switches up in your billet OH console gauge mount...

Ask Eric......they arnt that bad a priced. From the pic it looks like its a copy of the traction control button except it has a different pic on the button???

Actually I have a spare switch I would let you take a peak at and or buy.

Actually I have a spare switch I would let you take a peak at and or buy.

Sold. Pm me the details.

Ok, I was thinking some more about this on the way home from work today.
Is there a way we could hook it up to the tow/haul button? Race tune normally, but as soon as you hit the tow/haul button, you have your tow tune at hand? Those with the wiring diagrams, what say you?

Ok, I was thinking some more about this on the way home from work today.
Is there a way we could hook it up to the tow/haul button? Race tune normally, but as soon as you hit the tow/haul button, you have your tow tune at hand? Those with the wiring diagrams, what say you?

You could use the T/H the same way as the Co-Pilot does, but hitting a simple toggle is way easier.......:cool:

Too bad it couldn't switch when you push the peddle past 50%.

You could set up a switch that the go peddle would hit at 50%. Just need to be sure that you are reading the tps and not measureing from the floor to the peddle at 0%!

Too bad it couldn't switch when you push the peddle past 50%.

Lakingslayer,
Here's a thought..........
EFILive gives us an input for switching tunes and an output. The switch needs to go to ground to enable the switched tune. The output basically completes a ground in the ECM.

Program the output to ground at 50% throttle and wire it to the input...................:D

wasted income, yes it could be done. I think you would prefer a toggle switch tough once you've used it.

I like that idea (T/H). Stealth, purposeful

Too bad it couldn't switch when you push the peddle past 50%.

what does this accomplish? Doesn't efi have the ability to adjust parameters on pedal position already?

Lakingslayer,
Here's a thought..........
EFILive gives us an input for switching tunes and an output. The switch needs to go to ground to enable the switched tune. The output basically completes a ground in the ECM.

Program the output to ground at 50% throttle and wire it to the input...................:D

You know what, I think that might actually work :idea:

Cheers,
Ross

You know what, I think that might actually work :idea:

Cheers,
Ross

I didn't say I agreed with it, just answering questions for the membership. :D

what does this accomplish? Doesn't efi have the ability to adjust parameters on pedal position already?
I meant that as a joke.
This tool is going to bring out a lot of good ideas I think.

So whos going to be the first to make the turbo vanes closed on a toggle and use it as an exhaust brake? I want to do it, but not until someone else tries!

:funnypost

OH God, the possibilities...

:funnypost

Why is that?

I want to do it, but not until someone else tries!
:ro)

:ro)

:confused:

Now you have got me confused. I would try it first but I don't have an LLY. I seem to try things out first anyways just because I am curious. I don't think that it would work very well though because closing the vane is intended to spool the turbo and I don't think that it would provide enough back pressure. Although it shouldn't do anything more than spool up the turbo and that wouldn't help either.

Now you have got me confused. I would try it first but I don't have an LLY. I seem to try things out first anyways just because I am curious. I don't think that it would work very well though because closing the vane is intended to spool the turbo and I don't think that it would provide enough back pressure. Although it shouldn't do anything more than spool up the turbo and that wouldn't help either.
But arent on the 45/5500 trucks they use the turbo as a brake as an option right? So why wouldnt it work on a no 45/5500 LLY when all it is, is programming?

If that is true than closing the vane should have the same effect. I don't think that it would work but I have been proved wrong before.

I just finished reading this entire thread and you people have way too much free time. About 7 or 8 pages discussing a friggin switch!!! I really interested in getting an EFIlive but was concerned I didn't have the smarts or know how to use one. After reading that discussion on where the location should be and what kind of switch should be used I feel much better. :duh:

I just finished reading this entire thread and you people have way too much free time. About 7 or 8 pages discussing a friggin switch!!! I really interested in getting an EFIlive but was concerned I didn't have the smarts or know how to use one. After reading that discussion on where the location should be and what kind of switch should be used I feel much better. :duh:

:eek: :ro) :grd:

http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/avatars/avatar25360_4.gif

Does anyone have a diagram of where the pin needs to go for the DSP2?? I think I found an LLY pin in my toolbox, and would like to get a head start on getting my rig wired up for DSP.

Thanks.

Black connector pin #1. Max Power had some pics on the beta forum, not sure if he posted elsewhere.

I just like the idea of a vallet/wife mode setting on one switch pos.

Black connector pin #1. Max Power had some pics on the beta forum, not sure if he posted elsewhere.

Wish I could see the beta forum...

Max, could you post those pics here?

Thanks! :D

If you've seen the high idle instructions, it is the same deal just pin#1 on the black connector.

OK, thanks JK.

Does anyone have a diagram of where the pin needs to go for the DSP2?? I think I found an LLY pin in my toolbox, and would like to get a head start on getting my rig wired up for DSP.

Thanks.

For LLY

You are going to want to install 2 pins while your there not just one. :D

Install one in Pin #1 on the C2 black connector and one in Pin #27 on the C1 blue connector.

You are going to want to install 2 pins while your there not just one. :D

Sonds like there is even better things to come? :confuzeld

For LLY

You are going to want to install 2 pins while your there not just one. :D

Install one in Pin #1 on the C2 black connector and one in Pin #27 on the C1 blue connector.

Ok, bear with me here.

Is my commercial upgrade kit that's coming from you going to have BOTH pins?

Trippin, what about us LB7 guys? Same thing?

Ok, bear with me here.

Is my commercial upgrade kit that's coming from you going to have BOTH pins?

Yeah! Is it? :)

I am going to take my ECM out tonight and run all my wire's. So High Idle I have got, but for the EFILive what pins should us LB7 guys do?

Trippin, what about us LB7 guys? Same thing?

For those that want to prewire for LB7's

Run a wire from Blue ECM Connector PIN # 31 to a single pole single throw switch and the other side to ground.

Run a second wire about two feet long and hook into Blue ECM connector PIN #39 and tape up the end not yet connected .

The pins are available from GM, I'll see if I can get the part number.

T:cool: NY
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GM #12084912 is the part number for 10 pins. Thanks for the info. Tony!

So, where's that 2 foot wire gonna go - to the flux capacitor?:cool:

GM #12084912 is the part number for 10 pins. Thanks for the info. Tony!

Hey, do you have a part number for the LLY pins?

Ok, bear with me here.

Is my commercial upgrade kit that's coming from you going to have BOTH pins?
Yeah! Is it? :)

Yeah it is. :D

Waiting for pins and switches to get to me, I'll send them out to all my commercial customers, that have already ordered and to those in the future.

So, where's that 2 foot wire gonna go - to the flux capacitor?:cool:

Better than a Flux Capacitor......:eek:

You have no idea what lies ahead.......

Trippin is installing some test pieces and we are going to have some data to look over, but for sure we will have some cool things planned for that wire........:cool:
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I am not sure what the LLY pins are. I cannot wait to see what these new pins are going to be for!

Hey, do you have a part number for the LLY pins?

Same.

Same.
No, LLY is different. I'll see if I can find the part #. I have it somewhere.

15356826

Thanks Tony.

No, LLY is different. I'll see if I can find the part #. I have it somewhere.

Oh great! :(

That would have been helpful approx. two weeks ago. :D

You need to pay attention. It's been discussed several hundred times. ;) :D

You need to pay attention. It's been discussed several hundred times. ;) :D

:exactly:
:(

Thank you Tony, you saved us the embarassing task of cussing out Trippin. :)

LOL, so I guess it'll be a couple more weeks for those of us with LLYs?

Thank you Tony, you saved us the embarassing task of cussing out Trippin. :)

Trippin is an idiot.......................:eek:

Is the second wire something for the tcm perhaps or will us manual guys want the second wire as well. Also just curious as to if anyone with a 6spd has used efilive yet or am I going to be one of the first.

EFILive DSP˛ - Duramax Switchable Program˛ - for LB7 and LLY

EFILive is pleased to announce another Duramax first – DSP˛, our custom operating system that allows you to switch on the fly between 2 tunes that you create. Not only do you now have the ability to change on the fly with EFILive, you also have the ability to create as many DSP˛ tunes as you like – one for every occasion.

Do you ….
Want additional HP when passing, but want to run an economy tune most of the time?
Need to switch between 2 of your favourite tunes on the road without your laptop?
Want to switch off N2O on TCM shifts when racing?
Need tunes to match the driver’s of your vehicle – a “his” and “hers” tune?
Want to limit speed and boost like a Valet mode?

All this and more is possible with EFILive’s DSP˛.

How does it mechanically work? It’s simple really. All you need is a Single Throw Toggle switch, ECM pin and wire, and you are set to install. We don’t need your ECM and your ECM doesn’t need to be modified. Just wire up the switch to the defined ECM pin and your install is done.

How does the software work? You create your twin tunes in DSP˛, our custom operating system, then upload your DSP˛ via EFILive’s FULL FLASH process.

If this isn’t enough, DSP˛ also has 9 user definable thresholds that will switch an ECM controlled output.

Yes that’s right, you define when the output will switch based on parameters like
Boost Levels,
RPM,
Throttle Position

This output could be used to control
Shift Light
Warning lamps
Water injection
N2O cut (throttle must be above 90% etc)

What version of EFILive do I need? You will need a Commercial or Workshop version of EFILive. DSP˛ will NOT work with the Personal version of EFILive, this is because our Personal version cannot do a Full Flash to the ECM. Upgrade from Personal to Commerical is $150 which can be done online.

DSP˛ has been in BETA test for a number of weeks. LB7 has been comprehensively tested with GREAT results. LLY BETA test has just commenced. EFILive’s DSP˛ release will occur between late January and mid February. DSP˛ will be a FREE downloadable upgrade from www.efilive.com (http://www.efilive.com/)

Cheers,
Ross

The neat to eat treats are in red. :D
One wire to activate the DSP2 switchable.
The other wire used to control your output device

Better than a Flux Capacitor......:eek:

You have no idea what lies ahead.......

:eek: I get the joke now, had to watch a certain movie to get it :cool:

Maybe once that's hooked up I'll have money again :lol:

This may be off topic, but on the Commercial version it comes with 2 licenses right? Does that mean you can program two trucks? If so, can one be an LLY and one an LB7?

yup, yup beat you tony.

This may be off topic, but on the Commercial version it comes with 2 licenses right? Does that mean you can program two trucks? If so, can one be an LLY and one an LB7?

Yes!!

Sweet!!!

This may be off topic, but on the Commercial version it comes with 2 licenses right? Does that mean you can program two trucks? If so, can one be an LLY and one an LB7?
Yes, and if you choose to, you could tune a gasser instead!

I hope they aren't going to mess with us and release it on April Fools Day!

:lol: Now you ruined it for them.