I went to the local 4x4 shop Bought some bilsteins. He said the yellow dont come in 19" for the torsion bar lifted front. He sold me silvers. They dont fit. The bubber is too narrow for the frame ears and the rubber is too small for the bolts. I had to have napa press the metal sleeve out so I could get the bolt through. Now the shock body is hitting the frame ears.

Is this just not going to work? Need some help now as my truck is in pieces with shocks laying everywhere.

Use stock Bilstiens. you don't need longer shocks. Torsion lift doesn't increase travel

PC, You saw my truck at the dyno event, it isn't lifted just 7 turns in each torsion bar. I just have the yellow Bilsteins all the way around. #6081-HO front #6082 rear. Hope this helps.

Too late.......

I pounded and drilled and beat the shocks into place. My God what a nightmare. I had to tie 300LB test fishing line to collapse the fronts to get them into the holes. Once in place I would cut the line and the shock would expand back out. The backs had to have the rubber drilled and washers used on the sides.

To tell you the truth. I cant even tell they are on the truck. I feel no difference between stock shocks and these. I sure wish I hadnt have spent the money now.

To tell you the truth. I cant even tell they are on the truck. I feel no difference between stock shocks and these. I sure wish I hadnt have spent the money now.


Thats weird. My truck floated around like a Cadillac Fleetwood with the stock shocks. After the Bilsteins it was much stiffer like a truck should be.

mine was much better too..especially when towing!

mine was much better too..especially when towing!


Nick got NUTS ??


Send PC a Nicktane for install evaluation .... Bwahahahahahahahah !!!!!!!!!!!!


You know diss guy doesn't pack his own chute ....


Imagine that ....





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So exactly what are you saying problemchild that your shocks have a lot of holes in them now and your going to call up the CEO of Bilstien to get new ones?


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I couldnt see light through the shocks. I held them up to the sun and they past the test.

I will drive the truck some more tommorrow. I really could not tell they were on there. The front end still dives down when you hit the brakes. It still sways when you go around a corner.

I found it easiest on the fronts to put the top in first and then use a floorjack to lift the truck up a few inches. Bolt slides right in and was lot easier and quicker than trying to compress the shock.


BTW, I have my front end lifted a little also by turning up the torsion bars and there was no issues with these shocks fitting

For best dampening the shock needs to be in the center of its travel. I have the yellow ones on my truck--for another week anyway. My torsion bars are cranked 2". I put a 1" spacer under the top mount to get the shock closer to its center. My truck rides better than stock.

PC you seem to have a lot of luck......all bad. Your insurance must cost a fortune. How many comets, asteroids, meteors, lightning bolts, fallen trees, cars, trucks, planes, birds, helicopters, tornados, hurricanes,typhoons, tropical depressions, hail storms, mud slides, earth quakes or boats have struck your home?


I was working in L.B. the other night had to pick up almost six tons of the evil weed.

BigdaddyG

I might have bad luck.

OR

Maybe people dont do their job right anymore. I asked the guy at the counter 5 times if these were the right shocks and if they would fit. He said yes 5 times. I called him back to let him know he was wrong and reminded him about the 5 yes's. He said sorry. But that didnt solve the problem.

OK PC, the parts guy was wrong!!! When YOU discovered the shocks wouldn't fit YOU could have returned them and got the correct ones for YOUR truck instead of distroying them.-----JMHO------Phil

OK PC, the parts guy was wrong!!! When YOU discovered the shocks wouldn't fit YOU could have returned them and got the correct ones for YOUR truck instead of distroying them.-----JMHO------Phil





Gotta say.. I must agree with that!!

CRUSHER

Who said I destroyed them. Man people here just read between the lines. They are on the truck and working fine. I used American Ingenuity to make them work. Napa helped a little.

You dont live IN los Angeles do you???

Every move in your car is dictated by traffic and time of day. It took me 2 hours to get there and back. It would have taken more then that to return them. I would not have had time to work on my truck.

TANNER

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JMHOEdited by: problemchild

The Bilsteins that are on my truck (and many other here I presume) bolted right up with no hammering, drilling, pressing, beating.....and it was anything but a nightmare. Actually one of the easiest mods I've done so far. Oh yeah, and I immediately noticed a difference, just pulling out of the driveway.


All that work to put on shocks? Shouldn't be that hard dude. Next time talk to someone who knows what their talking about, and if the part doesn't fit right, return it for the one that does. Geeeshhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Ermm.gif

shoulda just ordered them from www.kennedydiesel.com (http://www.kennedydiesel.com) and been done with it.. I bet he is cheaper too, and they fit

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Dont think I will be odering anything from kennedy (wonder why?). Did you have the torsion bar lift? My stock oem were stretched from 15 to 17 inches putting them at the top and out of range. The yellows dont come in 19" so you cant use them on the front. You have to buy silvers and they are generic. The parts place was too far away to return them in traffic (if you would read what I post you would know this).

Why do I bother posting anything, everyone here shoots from the hip at a noise in the bush.

PC... I don't think your shocks will last if you had to work that hard getting them in

PC


Most of us are just having fun with a little tongue in cheek humor. Besides I always focus on the front site and never violate rule #4.


Your obsevations on our traffic problems are correct and most others don't really understand the term.Edited by: BigdaddyG

Well, I hope it was worth the effort.


Judging from this comment - "To tell you the truth. I cant even tell they are on the truck. I feel no difference between stock shocks and these. I sure wish I hadnt have spent the money now."


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PC,


Regardless of install issues, if you did not notice a difference I would say the silver shocks are not valved correctly for the weight/suspension of the Dmax.


Or you are the luckiest guy in the world. Why? You are the only one out of 3400 registered users who got good quality shocks from the factory.


Have you tried to pull out or push in on the factory shocks?

i just put them on my truck and only driven it about 20 miles, what a difference. Bought them "wholesale" from one of my suppliers, didnt bother asking price as we have a good relationship. OOPS. I will get some from Kennedy and return them to my supplier.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Ermm.gif


Took the old ones off, 30k and the rears were junk, fronts were marginal.. Now I am part of the group!!

I changed mine at 3,000 miles. I was so disgusted with the stock ones I couldn't throw them away fast enough. I think the long bed must amplify the short comings of the stock shocks.

Are the yellow ones 5100's? The parts guy said they were exactly the same and the silvers were 5100's. The onlt thing he told me was that they do come in the 19" length.

My original post was a question asking about silver shocks and if anyone had knowledge of these.

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BigdaddyG


I was working in L.B. the other night had to pick up almost six tons of the evil weed.


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What happened to the other 4 tons?

The paper said or should have said 10,000 pounds!!! That was just an estimate. Real total from 2 locations was 11,488 pounds

send em back and get rancho !!!!! i put mine on in 30 min rides 100% smoother.......set them on a soft setting and its awesome.....before i was thinkning of getting rid of it because it rode so rough but everything is ok now

Are the yellow ones 5100's? The parts guy said they were exactly the same and the silvers were 5100's. The onlt thing he told me was that they do come in the 19" length.

My original post was a question asking about silver shocks and if anyone had knowledge of these.


Yellow ones. #6081-HO front #6082 rear.

Call Bilstein tomorrow and ask the difference in valving between the 5100 and the 6000 series. They only list a chart for the 5100 series.Edited by: Trippin

Took the advice/posts on shock issue and ordered bilsteins(yellow).Took approx 30 minutes to install all four.No muss no fuss.Excellent shocks with noticeable difference from factory shocks from the get go.


Tomslick24 .....guess all the stars were aligned perfectly lol

Congrat's Tomslick24!! Isn't it nice when the correct parts properly installed function like they are supposed to?---http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif---( just the thoughts of an old "blind" man )------http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cool.gif------Phil

O.k. 1 final question,which Bilsteins for torsion bar green key set up

All I have to say is about the same thing as Tomslick. I just did the install yesterday with the yellow billsteins and it only took me 45 min or so. I also greased all the front end while I had the wheels off.


Jason

I wish someone could do a pictorial proving whether or not the GM HD IFS front end required longer shocks after cranking the keys. Hoot swares you do not! Others have went as far as adding spacers or installing longer shocks. Has anyone ever asked a suspension company for the bottom line?

Why would you need longer shocks? There is NO increase in suspension travel with the green keys. If you use longer or shorter ones, you risk bottoming or overtraveling them.

Hoot ??

I measure the stock shocks sitting on the truck. The 15" shocks were stretched out to 16.5+ inches. They were one inch from the end.

I put 17" bilsteins on my truck. They now sit in the middle of their travel.

Hoot ??

I measure the stock shocks sitting on the truck. The 15" shocks were stretched out to 16.5+ inches. They were one inch from the end.

I put 17" bilsteins on my truck. They now sit in the middle of their travel.



Understood. But if you come down hard? Wouldn't that risk bottoming the shock and or breaking a T-bar?

PC get your next set of Bilsteins @ Pickuptruck.com

They're cheapest! and easy to deal with (and won't call you stupid.) LOL http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif

I just replaced my stockers on my 03 last night with yellow bilsteins. I must admit the fronts looked a little short, even for the stock ride height, but I compared old and new and they extend to the exact same length.


Today I noticed no nose dive under braking. I still get suspension/ body jiggles over rough secondary roads (Michigan roads just at the end of winter...ugh) but no follow-on like before. The 'steins are definitely stiffer than the stock junkers and control the rear axle movement much better..


I did notice that none of my stock shocks would extend/expand on their own....unlike the new bilsteins which jump to full extension.


Took me about 1&amp;1/2 hours, didn't remove tires or wheels, no jacks, just a little swearing and grunting while under the truck.


Happy with the results!

Fred G,
How many miles did your stock shocks have on them?

bounce, bounce, bounce.......


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