Anyone dynoed an impressive tune yet? or even think they have something comparable to aftermarket power (480-500+ rwhp) with tuning from EFI Live?

Just curious how far this is progressing and how quickly. This rocks.:ro) and I can't wait until I can afford it AND a cheap laptop. (Looks like I missed out on that $100 one from classifieds. That was CHEAP if the XP really ran ok on it.)

I think John Kennedy has gotten over 500 rwhp

On a tune he made?

I played a bit and put my 2002 up to 500. Nothing that hasn't been done before with this truck, but nice to do with my tuning and no boxes.

I have a fairly stout LLY tune running. Feels stronger than the 180 VA, based on myself and 2 co-riders, but not dyno tested yet. Fueling added was actually quite modest for the HP/feel returned.

JK do you think you could get the 2002 into the 12's on fuel only with that hot EFI Live tune you made?

--Ben

Anyone dynoed an impressive tune yet? or even think they have something comparable to aftermarket power (480-500+ rwhp) with tuning from EFI Live?

Just curious how far this is progressing and how quickly. This rocks.:ro) and I can't wait until I can afford it AND a cheap laptop. (Looks like I missed out on that $100 one from classifieds. That was CHEAP if the XP really ran ok on it.)

I have not had a chance to get on a dyno yet.......I have some tunes that feel real good, but the SOTP Meter will have to be verified on a "LIE DETECTOR" at Janetty's Superflow in the next few weeks.

I am hoping my west coast "2003" test mule will get a chance to roll some "EVIL TUNES" in the coming weeks as well.

I have sent some tunes to a few members and have gotten good feedback, a recent economy tune netted the member 23+ mpg on a trip --> hand calculated <----;)

It is a lot of fun, especially when you fry the back tires thru 3 or 4 gears on a 7500 lb truck without a boosted launch.........;)
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I'm going to park my truck on a dyno hopefully in March. I need to get my hands on some summer fuel first.

I have created a couple that seem to work very well also. Appear to pull much harder than the Edge on max setting. Will have to get some dyno time in this spring and see what the numbers really are. This is an awsome product.

I have sent some tunes to a few members and have gotten good feedback, a recent economy tune netted the member 23+ mpg on a trip --> hand calculated <----;)


That's impressive, Anyone had any luck with reducing pilot injection? I have toyed with it some to get better milage, hasn't worked to good though. All I have been able to get done is have a rough running truck.

Awesome to hear. Just what I was hoping for. Thanks everyone.

Keep posting those good numbers, don't be making us ask for them. ;)

That's impressive, Anyone had any luck with reducing pilot injection? I have toyed with it some to get better milage, hasn't worked to good though. All I have been able to get done is have a rough running truck.

I read somewhere (can't recall right now) where this guy (who was a diesel engineer) was saying that pilot injection quantities should sort of track the quantity of the main pulse. In other words, you don't light a fire cracker with blow torch, instead use a match.
So there is going to be a point where reducing the pilot quantity will have a negative effect (like you found), likewise increasing it beyond what is needed is also not ideal.

Cheers,
Ross

I can understand that logic, BTW anybody that is trying to get LB7 milage with a LLY by copying the LB7 pilot tables, don't do it. Truck will idle fine, run good for a little bit and then huff more white smoke then a powerplant a few miles down the road. Luckily, I had the computer with me to get rid of the tune right away.

I got a call from Tony's tune user tonite with the 23 MPG and I was impressed and I know the customer well enough to know that its no BS.

Congrats on getting ahold of this thing so well Tony....

well Eric time to get to work your self!!!!!!!!!!!

If I only had the time Chris... I already told Tony to look for plane tickets in the mail if I cant....

TTT

"Tony The Tuner" :D

In Brooklyn: "Tony The Tuna" ):h

I have sent some tunes to a few members and have gotten good feedback, a recent economy tune netted the member 23+ mpg on a trip --> hand calculated <----;)
Tony would you be willing to share this tune? I have a father that would be estatic if he was able to get that kind of mileage.

Tony would you be willing to share this tune? I have a father that would be estatic if he was able to get that kind of mileage.

I have been using a few test trucks for my tunes, a 2001 in Michigan, my 2002 and a 2003 in CA-Trippin's Truck. I am also waiting for a member in NY with a 2004 to get his EFI-Live up and running.

I want to test these tunes over all the 2001-2004/LB7 years.

Other than the test truck in Michigan and one other truck in AZ, nobody has this tune.

PM me you e-mail and send me the stock tune file from your fathers truck.

As soon as I get the feedback/mileage from the AZ truck I will make a decision....;)

T:D NY

I have been using a few test trucks for my tunes, a 2001 in Michigan, my 2002 and a 2003 in CA-Trippin's Truck. I am also waiting for a member in NY with a 2004 to get his EFI-Live up and running.

I want to test these tunes over all the 2001-2004/LB7 years.

Other than the test truck in Michigan and one other truck in AZ, nobody has this tune.

PM me you e-mail and send me the stock tune file from your fathers truck.

As soon as I get the feedback/mileage from the AZ truck I will make a decision....;)

T:D NY

Would you be willing to throw us a bone as to what you did (changed) to get 23mpg?? :)

Would you be willing to throw us a bone as to what you did (changed) to get 23mpg?? :)

Lots of stuff.........:cool:

I'll make up my mind what I'll be doing with the tunes very soon..........:D

I need to get some on a dyno first, see if any of them need improvements, from the members that have gotten various tunes all seem to be working nicely.

I have a 2001 test truck that is far from stock, he is chasing a few Gremlins and we are going to try something different with his truck and see what we get, he is the one that got the 23 mpg with the "ECONOMY" Tune.
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T;) NY

Tony,

What was the MPG prior to the economy tune? Have you seen a consistent ~23 MPG across the test trucks or has there just been a noted % increase from base MPG?

TIA,
kbk

I have sent the tune to another member for his 2002 truck and he will be taking a trip to verify the fuel mileage on that truck.

Once I know that the results are repeatable I will post what they are.

The trucks are completely different in years and modifications.

I will know soon what the results are.

T;) NY

Thanks for the info. Keep us posted what you decide to do with your tunes.

On these EFIlive tunes are you able to control these in the cab? Or once they are programmed in they are there until you pull the program back out?

EFILive does not change things in "real-time". You must shut the truck off and load another tune.

The switchable tunes deal is in the works. LB7 is being beta tested, and LLY is nearly ready for testing. You will have an A and a B tune to select from.

The switchable tunes deal is in the works. LB7 is being beta tested, and LLY is nearly ready for testing. You will have an A and a B tune to select from.

Very cool, that is the first I have read of that. Can you tell us who is pioneering that?

OCDUNE

and if this feature can be added to an already purchased version of EFI Live.

Cool!!!

I'm going to be in so much trouble with the wife.

and if this feature can be added to an already purchased version of EFI Live.

As long as you have a commercial version then yes, it's free, if you only have a personal then you just need to pay for the upgrade to commercial.

Cheers,
Ross

I typically hate when someone repeats what you say verbatum (sp?) but I am going to just to make sure I am understanding this correctly.

If a person has a EFI Live personal edition, they will NOT be able to utilize this new found "switchable" feature. BUT can upgrade to a commercial version, at which point they will have access to a "switching" function. Am I on the right track here?

On the flip side.... If a person has an EFI Live commercial edition, they WILL be able to utilize this new found "switchable" feature as soon as it is released to the general public. Which is projected to be when??

Will it be "switchable on the fly"?


Thanks, this is getting really interesting.

Yes that is correct.

I typically hate when someone repeats what you say verbatum (sp?) but I am going to just to make sure I am understanding this correctly.

If a person has a EFI Live personal edition, they will NOT be able to utilize this new found "switchable" feature. BUT can upgrade to a commercial version, at which point they will have access to a "switching" function. Am I on the right track here?

On the flip side.... If a person has an EFI Live commercial edition, they WILL be able to utilize this new found "switchable" feature as soon as it is released to the general public. Which is projected to be when??

Will it be "switchable on the fly"?


Thanks, this is getting really interesting.

The commercial Version is designed so that you can reflash the ECM to accept a different year OS or a custom EFI-LIVE OS.

The value of the upgrade is well worth the extra $150.00.

I will be testing the switchable tune in the next day or so, it has already been extensively tested in CA....:cool:
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You guys should really consider the upgrade, it will be worth it, trust me........

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I guess the secret is out now! Good going, John.

When is it out?? I would love to have a high hp tune and a commuting tune.

A 23 mpg tune and a 150 hp tune, and no codes!!

When is it out?? I would love to have a high hp tune and a commuting tune.

A 23 mpg tune and a 150 hp tune, and no codes!!


I'm starting to drool a little thinking about it! :lol:

How will the tunes be switchable? A switch like TTS or ?????

I guess the secret is out now! Good going, John.

Kinda, not compeletely. What this DOES accomplish though is educating those who have not yet purchased EFI Live so that they can do it up front rather than after the fact. ;)

It's quite close to release, but the Official announcement wil need to be left to the Official people...

same question here. Switchable how?

With a switch that toggles between A and B tunes.

I'm going to be in so much trouble with the wife.

can we buy the EFI live comercial tuner yet ...... will you need LLY beta testers?

Can I use my own switch John.

'twill be so simple and yes you will be sourcing your own switch and an ECM pin. No further details at present.

Cr@p, I knew there was a reason I didn't want to read this thread....
db9938, same here... looks like I'll have to break the trailer out of winter storage so that I'll have a place to sleep.....

On the fly switchable:ro)

can we buy the EFI live comercial tuner yet ...... will you need LLY beta testers?


The commercial version is, and has been available. I purchased mine in October before the Duramax stuff was released. There is no reason to wait to buy a commercial license, it's the OS and associated calibration files that are currently being tested so they are not available to the public. When released they will be available as a no charge download for commercial and workshop customers. You guys are going to love the new features!:ro)


For a comparison of features between Personal, Commercial, and Workshop versions go to EFILive.com

How did I get so roped into being so involved in performance? Censored

Not sure I understand how it would be possible to flip a switch for a new ecm program on the fly. We'll see I guess.

The Edge, hardware tune, was a different creature.

would another high idle kit be sufficient for hooking up the switchable tunes John?

How did I get so roped into being so involved in performance? Censored

Not sure I understand how it would be possible to flip a switch for a new ecm program on the fly. We'll see I guess.

The Edge, hardware tune, was a different creature.

TTS can do it, so we know it's possible! :cool:

Sounds like there's a second memory section in the ECM that can be "swapped" by grounding a pin. Backup maybe? diagnostics? or just "overdesign" on the hardware? No matter, cause it sounds pretty darn cool to me!!

It works quite well......:cool:

I got the commercial version.....:D .....and I am a beta tester......;)
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T:) NY

you got that 23 mpg tune yet?

you got that 23 mpg tune yet?

I have sent the tune file to 6 members for additional testing.

It will be continually tested and hopefully the mpg is repeatable on several different trucks and model years..

T:cool: NY

can you get that to roger zeedyke? i think he has efi live. i don't know if he has the commercial version or not, but my dad would like to try it out on his 02 cclb 4x4.

BTW on that tune what does the power feel like? stock?

can you get that to roger zeedyke? i think he has efi live. i don't know if he has the commercial version or not, but my dad would like to try it out on his 02 cclb 4x4.

BTW on that tune what does the power feel like? stock?

I don't know what it feels like for power, I never even drove it. I wrote it for a member who was taking a trip, I was surprised that it got 23 mpg.

He did not say if the power was great or just a little better than stock. I am sure that it is no powerhouse based on the changes I made, but it was not written for power, it was written for fuel economy.

PM me your e-mail address and I will send the tune file out so you father can try it..

T;) NY

what changes are made for economy???

I assume the LB7 and LLY folks need to be careful mixing with each other, Tony?

I loaded the tune this past Tues. It has a little extra power over stock and a little more throttle response. To early to tell on mileage, but I think it should be there. I noticed lower EGT's at cruise and slight Boost reduction from the stock tune at various speed and loads.

Time will tell.:cool:

Thanks Tony:D

I think I am finally motivated enough to buy EFILive :ro) ! Where would be the best place to buy if from?

It's the same price where ever you get it from:

www.socaldiesel.com
www.kennedydiesel.com
www.efilive.com

did I miss anybody?

Thanks for the quick responce TBB!!

The switchable tunes deal is in the works. LB7 is being beta tested, and LLY is nearly ready for testing. You will have an A and a B tune to select from.

I've been offline for a few days and I come back to find sensitive Beta information being disclosed. :eek:
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Better re-read that Beta agreement John. :D

I've been offline for a few days and I come back to find sensitive Beta information being disclosed. :eek:
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Better re-read that Beta agreement John. :D



Sue me I guess. Ross did not see any issue when I asked him...

Sue me I guess. Ross did not see any issue when I asked him...

Sounds like you've got special permissions from the man!

My mistake. :(

Perhaps you can clue the rest of the Beta team in first, next time so we know what we can't talk about and what you have special permissions for................
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No special permissions were given, we had dropped hints days before that something was in the works and would be announced within the week.
Me and John have spoken about it after it was posted without EFILive knowing it was going to happen, let's discuss this off-line if it needs to be clarified any further.

Cheers,
Ross

My apologies to all.

My apologies to all.

Where's the group hug smilies?
Now back to tuning fellas......

Cheers,
Ross

Right here!
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How nice. I'm glad we can all get along.):h

I would have already bought one of these toys, but with my wife filing for divorce, I have to see if I will have a Duramax to tune:eek: At least I get the house, and joint custody of the two kids:ro)

The sheetmetal can wait.