Just left one of my customers. They have 3 D/A's. One of the owners new d/a (03) with 38k just failed. He took it to the dealer and they told him 3 injectors were bad. They fixed the 3 and he went to pick it up. He just got out of the driveway and it quit. They towed it back and they told him 2 more injectors were bad. He let them fix it. He went to pick it up and it quit on the way home. They then told him the rest of the injectors and the pump were bad. They fixed it and he went to pick it up. He drove it less then 200 miles and it quit again. Now they are telling him its the pump again.

Man is that BS or what?

Wow man. I'd be seriously pissed if that was my truck.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cry.gif

I thought they (GM) were changing all the injectors in sets of 8 now.

as of feb 18th we got a bulliten to replace all 8 injector on all 01-04 lb7 motors that show any signs of ses light on with 3 codes and/or lack of power hard start or fuel in oil.....this bulliten is given to us "make us better" gm cant save there aces...so all you guys take a number add a couple of gallons of fuel in the oil and you will get new injectors.....8 of them....try it every 30k miles if your willing to have your truck down a few days....ill get the number of the bulliten tomarrow.remember for us techs be nice the labor time was moved to 8 hrs for all 8 ......they dont even include the fact that fuel pumps can be bad and fuel psi relief vlvs as well......gm dont even know diesels......

gm dont even know diesels......


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Stories like this one are about 90% of the reason I went with the wife's decision to go with the Freightliner. I'm not a big fan of repeat problems, misdiagnosis, and the famous line " you didn't buy that truck from us did you?" Traveling from NY to Alaska and everywhere else in America, with two kids and a dog, I prefer to try and limit my down time as much as possiblehttp://dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cool.gif Dave

ProblemChild, what do you do?


Either way, that sucks. Im just hoping that the CAT filter will save it...

Do you guys really relieve that BS story? Later! Frank

PC,


Looks like YOUR "luck" is spreading, I better get a shot or somethinghttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif

How can one person be the source of so much bad news?

every forum needs a problemchild, or there wouldn't be anything to talk about

Not so much recently but these stories were pretty typical stories as I recall. Techs needed to be careful as debris would fall into areas that caused further catastrophic injector problems. For this to be happening now it must be a back woods service department. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Confused.gif

Bigfoot and bart ya took the words right out of my mouth!http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif

gm dont even know diesels......


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Guess the name Isuzu was the clue that GM needed some help ~

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Do you guys really relieve that BS story? Later! Frank
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I think he meant believe.

I asked my customer where his truck was. Thats when he told me it has been in the shop for over a month. The above story is as true as it gets. Man he was pissed off. He's now going to sell the truck. I told him about this forum and the injector problems I have read about. I also told him he needed a 2nd filter/additive.

He said "hell no" Im not doing all that crap. I'll just sell the truck. His brother has the 2nd d/a and one of the workers has the other.

I know they race a lot in mexico so I asked him if he ever fueled up down there. He said only once almost a year ago.

As crappy as our fuel is here he probably got better fuel in Mexico.

just pull it up to the front door and burn the damn thing...

My FREIGHTLINER HAS A INJECTOR PROBLEM 1st one 397,000http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Confused.gif

My FREIGHTLINER HAS A INJECTOR PROBLEM 1st one 397,000http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Confused.gif


I understand some of those big rig systems push near 30000 psi. What is the expected life?

dont sound like a bad truck, sounds like a bad diagnosishttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Ermm.gif

dont sound like a bad truck, sounds like a bad diagnosishttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Ermm.gif





Ding, Ding Ding we have a winnerhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif


Good call as usual dmaxalli tech

Erick


Is the replace all 8 a true story, if so I need the bullitin #, boss's truck down on power and using oil, dealer waiting on rep to make decision.


Geno

#04-06-04-007 Service Engine Soon (SES) Light, P0087, P0093, P1093, Low Power, No Start, Hard Start, Fuel in Crankcase (Replace All Injectors-New Strategy for High Fuel Return Rates) - (Feb 18, 2004) (http://service.gm.com/servlets/BlobShtml?ShtmlFile=1460900&pubid=210&evc=sm) ... Its in the TSB forum

Tanner...

Thats a pass protected site. Can you post the msg here.

Tanner...

Thats a pass protected site. Can you post the msg here.


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