: New Quadzilla Stealth Tunes
GMC-2002-Dmax 02-28-2004, 08:10 PM Did some testing today, unreleased tunes.
Tried the New Quadzilla Stealth Tunes today at the Dyno at Unlimited Motorsports & Paint, South Windsor, CT.
Once again a big thanks to Eric and Chad/owners and Joe for the Tech II.
Rolled in the afternoon, Mackin was there to bust balls.
Sorry I cannot display the charts......the run files can be viewed with runviewer v7.0 but I cannot save the files as a JPEG or Bitmap to display here. http://dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cry.gif
Anyway the new tunes are a 50/70/90/110/135 tunes.
All tunes numbers posted are corrected using SAE standards with Dynojet runviewer.
The Dyno's software must take other factors into account when calculating the numbers because these all displayed lower than the actual runs put down for HP and TQ when I opened them at home on the PC.
I will see if I can get the Dyno's files as displayed at Unlimited in a JPEG or Bitmap to display here. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif
My baseline today was 245HP/412TQ SAE Corrected.
http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/uploads/17B_Baseline.jpg
New 50 HP Tune - 305hp/507TQ - gain 60HP/95TQ
http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/uploads/6DA_Quad_50_hp_tune.jpg
New 70 HP Tune - 326hp/545TQ - gain 81HP/133TQ
http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/uploads/Quad_70_hp_tune.jpg
New 90 HP Tune - 342hp/601TQ - gain 97HP/189TQ
http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/uploads/52A_Quad_90_hp_tune.jpg
New 110 HP Tune - 369hp/625TQ - gain 124HP/213TQ
http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/uploads/D54_Quad_110_hp_tune.jpg
New 135 HP Tune - 388hp/682TQ - gain 143HP/270TQ
http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/uploads/EZD_Quad_135_hp_tune.jpg
For comparisons only....
New 135 HP Tun
heartbeatcanada 02-28-2004, 08:28 PM Good numbers. Looks like the edge isn't the only one smackin down more than advertised. Any bigger tunes tries out???? http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif
GMC-2002-Dmax 02-28-2004, 08:47 PM Good numbers. Looks like the edge isn't the only one smackin down more than advertised. Any bigger tunes tries out???? http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif
Ran the newest 215HP version 1.19 , a modest few HP gain from the older version 1.10 tune, I had ran that one on Tuesday night and then again on Thursday night.
Made at least 25-30 runs in the past couple of days.......http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif
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heartbeatcanada 02-28-2004, 08:59 PM Addicting isn't it. All this reading of guys dynoing makes me jealous, man its just too much fun. Oh hell what am i complaining about, i was suppose to go last week, but this coming looks better....i hope. I have one question for you.........how the hell or you still running a stock tranny???? Obviously you haven't let Mac behind the wheel, or you've got more restraint than me.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif
GMC-2002-Dmax 02-28-2004, 09:05 PM Addicting isn't it. All this reading of guys dynoing makes me jealous, man its just too much fun. Oh hell what am i complaining about, i was suppose to go last week, but this coming looks better....i hope. I have one question for you.........how the hell or you still running a stock tranny???? Obviously you haven't let Mac behind the wheel, or you've got more restraint than me.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif
Don't ask.........I sure don't know how either. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Geek.gif
The HOT OJ is pushing it too it's limit right now.......http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Confused.gif
I blow thru the converter and throw 0700 and 0735 codes whenever I screw around too much, which lately has been daily.
The upgraded tranny will be coming soon, not soon enough though.
When I get it I will know what I have been missing..........http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Disapprove.gif
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Mike L. 02-28-2004, 11:16 PM Tony
Don't know what upgrade you are doing, but i bet your C3's And C4's are toast. I suggest you have the Ally pulled all the way down(have to, to see C4's anyway) Have pistons checked for tension in bore, if too loose they need to be replaced.
When you guys start limping(throwing MIL light on) the trans, you are doing severe damage. That puts you beyond a shift kit for a fix. Remember the old saying "keep it in your pants"
GMC-2002-Dmax 02-29-2004, 06:08 AM Tony
Don't know what upgrade you are doing, but i bet your C3's And C4's are toast. I suggest you have the Ally pulled all the way down(have to, to see C4's anyway) Have pistons checked for tension in bore, if too loose they need to be replaced.
When you guys start limping(throwing MIL light on) the trans, you are doing severe damage. That puts you beyond a shift kit for a fix. Remember the old saying "keep it in your pants"
Mike,
Yes I know, damage was done last year, but yes I will be going thru the entire trans.......not just a simple replacement of clutches and a TC....http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif
Thanks for the advice, I knew that eventually the time would come, the Allison still shifts like new when running stock...........I am just waiting for the 36K miles to arrive, then no more GM warranty.........so no more dealer trips, even for oil changes and unrelated warranty stuff, then I can really do some MOD'S. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Embarrased.gif
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sdaver 02-29-2004, 09:24 AM print the graphs and then scan them or just get nick to host and we can download and view
GMC-2002-Dmax 02-29-2004, 09:44 AM print the graphs and then scan them or just get nick to host and we can download and view
No scanner..........http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cry.gif
Nick has the run files, except from Saturday.........you got a a scanner and color printer ?????
I will e-mail them to ya......http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif
They show low hp/torque when viewed with runviewer ,even my old runs from when you were up in CT, unless my version of viewer sucks......maybe you can display them properly with your version.
Hot OJ always netted 720 +++ RWTQ, when I veiw the run I get 680's or so, they are showing a 6% difference from the actual runs made.
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Professor 02-29-2004, 09:51 AM Tony,
Send the files to me, I'll set them up so they can be viewed in PDF and .JPG.
Rick
GMC-2002-Dmax 02-29-2004, 02:16 PM Moved some posts here:
Dyno Runs (http://dieselplace.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5704&PN=0&TPN=2)
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RUMAXED 03-02-2004, 09:30 PM does any one the install direction for the quad on there computer that they can post?
GMC-2002-Dmax 03-03-2004, 08:44 AM does any one the install direction for the quad on there computer that they can post?
Plug in the cable to the tuner...
Plug the other end into the OBD port....left of the steering wheel under the dash...by the brake release lever.
Turn key to on position...do not start.........
Follow on screen instructions.....
That's it.........
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silvermax 03-03-2004, 10:16 PM I should have my tuner by noon thurs with the new tunes and had quad add the 165hp tune while it was there...http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif I'll give a report on egt's and driveability of the 135 tune.
silvermax 03-04-2004, 10:48 AM The big brown truck just pulled up,got my tuner in hand and headed to the truck......http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Approve.gif
Quadzilla 03-04-2004, 11:56 AM We can't get back in touch with you.
To reset the transmission it should offer you a choice before you tune your engine. If that is not doing it for you let me know.
Quad
silvermax 03-04-2004, 01:09 PM I got it quad,the new tunes are great....... The 135 feels stronger than the 165 tune http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Disapprove.gif Im really impressed with the 135 tune,the 165 well.......
Quadzilla 03-04-2004, 01:18 PM I got it quad,the new tunes are great....... The 135 feels stronger than the 165 tune http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Disapprove.gif Im really impressed with the 135 tune,the 165 well.......
Like I said, the 165 has not been revamped.....yet. the 135 feels so good because of the instant torque. We just basically gave as much pedal feel and low end torque as we could!
The higher tunes are harder to do as much with and keep the driveability. We have been working on the smaller tunes for quite some time. I wanted to do the best we could without sending out new tunes and causing even more porblems, like some of you have seen from other manufactures in the past. Whe we do the 165 updates I will keep you informed.
Quad
silvermax 03-04-2004, 02:02 PM So is the new 135 tune just as strong as the old 165? Sure feels like it but I havent run it a full 1/4 yet on the 165 though. No limp on the 135 http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gifEdited by: silvermax
Quadzilla 03-04-2004, 04:10 PM So is the new 135 tune just as strong as the old 165? Sure feels like it but I havent run it a full 1/4 yet on the 165 though. No limp on the 135 http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif
The 135 is not as strong as the 165. The new version "feels" really strong, and it is, but it is not that underrated!
Quad
White Duramax 03-05-2004, 02:36 AM Quad, I recieved the 110, for a buddy Monday, took a little bit to get it installed, but once it was done, wow! He took it out for a test drive and came back with a big old http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif!!! I said, that is the smallest one they make. He said WOW, and I will get a hold of ya when I am ready to upgrade!!!
White Duramax 03-05-2004, 02:37 AM Guess I got another Duramax power junkie started!!
luvthesmellofdiesel 03-05-2004, 02:24 PM Quad,
I have the a 135, any chance I can get it reprogrammed with the new tunes? I would like to give then a try...
Thanks,
Tim
Kartattack 03-05-2004, 06:49 PM Quad:
No chance to drive it yet, but man is the new 90 HP tune quiet at idle! Thanks to Stan for hooking me up.
Quadzilla 03-05-2004, 06:59 PM Quad,
I have the a 135, any chance I can get it reprogrammed with the new tunes? I would like to give then a try...
Thanks,
Tim
http://dieselplace.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5945&PN=2
I think that will give you the info you need to get the new tunes!
Quad
GMC-2002-Dmax 03-05-2004, 11:46 PM Posted dyno charts............
Thanks to Professor.......for a screen shot program.
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Quadzilla 03-06-2004, 01:01 AM Thanks for getting those up. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif
I do have a question, is there any way you can get the Hot Juice chart on the same rpm scale as the rest of the charts? At first glance it appears that it has am incredible torque band, and it is good, but if you look at the chart the rpms are much more spread out. Find a particular torque # and then see what rpm they hit that number at and when they go below it, like 650 ft lbs. You will see that on a small er chart it is much narrower than it appears.
Not trying to start anything, but I think it would be a better comparison on the same scale.
Quad
DMAX2DAMAX 03-06-2004, 09:25 AM Quad,
Sara called to let me know mine is on it's way back to me with the new tunes, 1 day turn around, just like you said.
Thanks again for delivering what you say.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gifhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gifhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif
I'm looking forward to the ride...http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/18/18_3_108.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001)
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GMC-2002-Dmax 03-06-2004, 09:44 AM The tunes have been resized for scaling and they show the same now for true comparisons.
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Forced Induction 03-06-2004, 12:23 PM Can the 135 be used with a stock trans?? I have been running the 90 juice for over a year so the trans should be close to ready for more. The new quad tunes sound real nice and I'm seriously thinking about them.
Another question is can the stock tune be returned for trip to the dealer? And if not can they tell the program has been modified?? This is one reason why I like my old juice, but the quad sounds a little too good.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif
Thanks,
Jason
DMAX2DAMAX 03-06-2004, 05:58 PM I've ran mine on the previous 135 tune with no problems, but I don't hammer it all the time. I've never limped or zinged my stock alli either. I have seen several others post that their experience is the same. I think it really depends on how hard you intend to push it. I have the 165 tune but don't plan on running it until I get the alli upgraded.
It takes only minutes to return to stock and then I believe it is un-detectable that it was ever on your truck.
hdmax 03-06-2004, 07:45 PM [QUOTE=Forced Induction]
Can the 135 be used with a stock trans?? I have been running the 90 juice for over a year so the trans should be close to ready for more. The new quad tunes sound real nice and I'm seriously thinking about them.
Depending on how you run the truck with the 90 hp, and how the tranny was built in the first place. The old 135 Stealth will eat my tranny for lunch, but others claim they can run the 165 Stealth.
Another question is can the stock tune be returned for trip to the dealer? And if not can they tell the program has been modified?? This is one reason why I like my old juice, but the quad sounds a little too good.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif
The dealer can see what they want too. Meaning, if they spend the time and know what they are doing, They can see that you have been pushing more power. Do not think for one minute that any (no matter what the dealer/manufacture claims) type of power add on can be totally hiddin.Edited by: hdmax
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