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66flh
12-14-2005, 03:54 PM
I saw a video of a Dura beating a z06 but I cant seem to find it ,anyone know where it is???:help:

onefst2003
12-15-2005, 07:02 AM
I ran the z06 twice with my 4x4 duramax and beat him by a car and a half both times.The owner of the zo6 was pretty much pissed.

blackie:grd:

Dmax Tim
12-15-2005, 07:35 AM
may have been Wade.

Slick
12-15-2005, 07:48 AM
There was a link of RynaU on streetfire taking down a Z06 a few days ago. Someone posted it here.

66flh
12-15-2005, 09:21 AM
What a sweet run that must have been!!!

Hired Gun
12-15-2005, 12:20 PM
Was it Blue????????

66flh
12-15-2005, 01:03 PM
Yes I think it was blue.Any idea where to find the vid?

Slick
12-15-2005, 01:42 PM
Not the same one I saw. This was Ryan's truck which is white. I believe Wade(IBDmax'in) has pictures from the dragstrip where he is putting the hurt on a few Vettes.

Slick
12-15-2005, 01:46 PM
http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/showthread.php?t=31152&highlight=bandimere

Here's the link to some pics. I don't recall seeing video. I would like to see it.

66flh
12-15-2005, 07:26 PM
The VETTE was blue....

Slick
12-16-2005, 07:18 AM
http://videos.streetfire.net/default.aspx?term=duramax

Here's the videos of Ryan's truck the second one, is with a vette.

Groovilator
12-16-2005, 10:07 AM
Boys let me tell you guys something. I have an 02 Z06 and i will race anyone with a PU truck for their house. Now mind you , anyone can make a machine that can beat another machine. But, without major money and HP ,forget it.:ro)

66flh
12-16-2005, 10:46 AM
Be careful what you wish for,some of these guys run high 11's in a quarter!!!:eek: :eek: :eek:

66flh
12-16-2005, 10:56 AM
:bounce: Slick,You the man.

Slick
12-16-2005, 11:27 AM
Your welcome.:)

Slick
12-16-2005, 11:28 AM
Hey Groovilator, what does your car run in the quarter?

Hummbusa
12-16-2005, 03:44 PM
That was cool. Love to see it in person.

TTA89
12-16-2005, 04:06 PM
2 years ago I was playing around with my Lightning at the track and this guy with a lifted 4x4 Crew Duramax pulled into the lanes. It had construction company signs on the doors. We ended up racing 6 or 7 times in a row and I didn't win once.

We would go down the track even the whole way till about the 1000 foot and then he would just pull past me. I ran 12.90s to his 12.70s-12.80s all night long. That was one of the most fun racing nights (that I lost) that I can remember. He was running Nitrous, beyond that I didn't know anything about Diesel Performance at the time so I dunno what else but what a fun truck that must have been. :ro)


I'm leaving mine stock or at least I'm gonna try, my racing buddies have a pool going to see how long it takes me to modify the new truck but I swear I don't want to touch it. Warranty! Warranty! :cool:

IdahoRob
12-16-2005, 05:54 PM
I'm leaving mine stock or at least I'm gonna try, my racing buddies have a pool going to see how long it takes me to modify the new truck but I swear I don't want to touch it. Warranty! Warranty! :cool:

I said the same thing. At 5000 miles I had the tranny spread across the garage, and at 15000 miles I had some extra parts hanging off the side off the motor.:D

locknload
12-16-2005, 07:46 PM
I think ryan was only running tts extreme with nitrous at that time:lol: :ro)

TTA89
12-16-2005, 08:01 PM
I said the same thing. At 5000 miles I had the tranny spread across the garage, and at 15000 miles I had some extra parts hanging off the side off the motor.:D

Nah, don't get me wrong they are fun but its too expensive to go fast. :eek:

I might do a small program but thats it. :help2:

66flh
12-17-2005, 02:03 AM
Boys let me tell you guys something. I have an 02 Z06 and i will race anyone with a PU truck for their house. Now mind you , anyone can make a machine that can beat another machine. But, without major money and HP ,forget it.:ro) What kind of house do you have to lose???:cool:

Dmax Tim
12-19-2005, 08:54 AM
Boys let me tell you guys something. I have an 02 Z06 and i will race anyone with a PU truck for their house. Now mind you , anyone can make a machine that can beat another machine. But, without major money and HP ,forget it.:ro)

Wade did his at 6000' which kills the gas motors and the diesels keep right on smoking 'em.

I'm sure he could use another house ):h

ls14jay
12-26-2005, 09:28 PM
Are you sure that was a ZO6. Very low trap speed for one(109).They trap around 112 or so running mid 12's.Looked more like regular vette times to me.Fast truck none the less,awesome job.

Jay

azcrf450
12-27-2005, 03:59 PM
Yeah they trap at 112 at sealevel, they just said it was 6000', that makes a huge difference in air density. Could very well be the driver also


Are you sure that was a ZO6. Very low trap speed for one(109).They trap around 112 or so running mid 12's.Looked more like regular vette times to me.Fast truck none the less,awesome job.

Jay

ls14jay
12-27-2005, 04:38 PM
Sorry missed the 6000 FT part, but it wasn't mentioned till a few posts ago.Should have caught that.

Jay

Slick
12-28-2005, 07:22 AM
Ryan's from Kentucky(not 6000 ft.).

Wade(not the one in the video) is the one from CO, he races at 6000 ft.

I think Ryan would know what a Z06 looks like.

Groovilator
12-28-2005, 10:57 AM
Slick,my car runs 10.5s with small mods. Intake and a heads and cam pack, bring my wish on. I also have a DMAX , but it's not going to see anything but my cars' butt. No flame just fact.:)

Slick
12-28-2005, 11:50 AM
http://www.dieselperformancemotorsports.com/images/CecilGa..mpg

This one won't be seeing your cars butt.:)

I wouldn't exactly call heads, and a cam "minor" mods either. The Dmax in the first video in this thread has neither.

RyanU
12-28-2005, 03:36 PM
Heres some vids of my very first day at the dragstrip. The vid below was the first time I ever ran n2o

http://dmaxperformance.com/downloads/12_40.wmv

I didnt beat this z06 at the strip...but a month or so later...I KILLED him on the street

http://dmaxperformance.com/downloads/12_43.wmv

This was my best pass of my first day

http://dmaxperformance.com/downloads/12_31.wmv

Heres my best pass ever on TTS and n2o w/ stock turbo...seconf time at the track

http://dmaxperformance.com/downloads/12_2.wmv

Finally here some random clips of my second time at the track

http://dmaxperformance.com/downloads/runs.wmv

nitrous
12-29-2005, 02:33 PM
I have video of a red 2500HD Dmax running a 12.1 against a 9 second Turbo GP. Anyone have any idea who it could be?

RyanU
12-29-2005, 02:38 PM
I have video of a red 2500HD Dmax running a 12.1 against a 9 second Turbo GP. Anyone have any idea who it could be?

could be Tomac, was it crew cab?

dirtydury
12-30-2005, 09:25 PM
Slick,my car runs 10.5s with small mods. Intake and a heads and cam pack, bring my wish on. I also have a DMAX , but it's not going to see anything but my cars' butt. No flame just fact.:)
Did you forget to mention the stroker crank, pro-charger, turbo and or nitrous and slicks to get that car to run a 10.50. Any pics of car and time slips?

ochster
12-30-2005, 10:00 PM
There are many well tuned street driven cars and trucks that run lower than 11's. I know of several that are near ten years old with stock bottom ends and have less than $10K in the whole vehicle.

"Fast" is very relevant...Not taking anything away from these oversize oil burners but they aint that "fast".

dirtydury
12-30-2005, 10:32 PM
There are many well tuned street driven cars and trucks that run lower than 11's. I know of several that are near ten years old with stock bottom ends and have less than $10K in the whole vehicle.

"Fast" is very relevant...Not taking anything away from these oversize oil burners but they aint that "fast".
Yes, I agree with you but the cars are well tuned on nitrous or some sort of power adder. All I am saying is that You dont gain 2.5 seconds in the quarter mile with just heads and cam. 2.5 seconds in the quarter as you all know is a lifetime and at least 250 hp.

Donovan
12-31-2005, 01:59 AM
There are many well tuned street driven cars and trucks that run lower than 11's. I know of several that are near ten years old with stock bottom ends and have less than $10K in the whole vehicle.

"Fast" is very relevant...Not taking anything away from these oversize oil burners but they aint that "fast".

I have yet to see anyone put together a street car that can run lower than 11s for any amount of time for a cost of $10000 much less a "well tuned" street car that runs 11s. Pretty much every "well tuned" street car that I've seen has at least a couple thousand in electronics such as a standalone engine managment computer and wideband a/f monitor all of which are not cheap. Couple the cost of good electronics with the cost of all the other parts and you are so far off it's not even funny.

In the Mustang world, you may be able to build a gutted jy car with an ABC big block. This certainly wouldnt be a street car with that kind of budget. Maybe you could do this with an older vehicle, but thats nowhere close to 10 years old. In fact I own a 10 year old mustang and I can tell you that for most cars of that vintage it costs a lot more than 10k to go in the 11s. Go look at my mod list and do the math..I have over 15k in the motor alone and im still a power adder away from those kinds of times.

How about you post some examples of these vehicles that are "near ten years old with stock bottom ends and have less than $10K in the whole vehicle" . I would like to know what your talking about. In fact I may just build one if there is such a thing!

wyattroa
12-31-2005, 02:30 AM
I have yet to see anyone put together a street car that can run lower than 11s for any amount of time for a cost of $10000 much less a "well tuned" street car that runs 11s. Pretty much every "well tuned" street car that I've seen has at least a couple thousand in electronics such as a standalone engine managment computer and wideband a/f monitor all of which are not cheap. Couple the cost of good electronics with the cost of all the other parts and you are so far off it's not even funny.

In the Mustang world, you may be able to build a gutted jy car with an ABC big block. This certainly wouldnt be a street car with that kind of budget. Maybe you could do this with an older vehicle, but thats nowhere close to 10 years old. In fact I own a 10 year old mustang and I can tell you that for most cars of that vintage it costs a lot more than 10k to go in the 11s. Go look at my mod list and do the math..I have over 15k in the motor alone and im still a power adder away from those kinds of times.

How about you post some examples of these vehicles that are "near ten years old with stock bottom ends and have less than $10K in the whole vehicle" . I would like to know what your talking about. In fact I may just build one if there is such a thing!

you can put about 4-5k into a 03-04 cobra and be running in the 11s all day long with out any problems..just throw a kenny bell super charger on it.the engines are hand built and handle big power and can be driven everyday...just your MPG sucks...but hey who buys a 11sec car for mpg?
robert

JoshH
12-31-2005, 02:55 AM
Yes, I agree with you but the cars are well tuned on nitrous or some sort of power adder. All I am saying is that You dont gain 2.5 seconds in the quarter mile with just heads and cam. 2.5 seconds in the quarter as you all know is a lifetime and at least 250 hp.Are you talking about the Z06 needing to gain 2.5 seconds to run 10.5s because if you are I can tell you you are flat wrong. With a good driver a Z06 can run high 11s. It would take quite a truck to walk even a stock Z06 with an experienced driver. Granted they are harder to launch than a 4x4 truck, but if you can get traction and know how to shift you can put up some impressive numbers. I wish the track had been open when I was home for Christmas and I could have seen first hand what a Z06 would run.

ochster
12-31-2005, 03:38 AM
Engine management is key and there are ways to keep that cost down if your technically savy.

I know a couple of 454ss afficianados that fit the description I spelled out. I may be off a grand or two but that's it. A set of drag slicks and there in the 11's.

dirtydury
12-31-2005, 01:20 PM
Josh H, we arnt talking about the beast 06 zo6 we ar talking about a 02 405 horse z06. The fastest time I have seen or heard a STOCK 02 z06 run is 12.7. So my bad 2.2 seconds. But that is not the point, the point is a heads and cam 02 zo6 w/ no power adder running 10.50's, hard to beileive.
wyattroa, where can you find a $10,000 03 cobra?

JoshH
12-31-2005, 01:24 PM
No, I'm talking about the 02-04 Z06. There have been more than one person put those into the high 11s bone stock.

dirtydury
12-31-2005, 01:32 PM
What about the 10.50's?

wyattroa
12-31-2005, 05:15 PM
no you can put 2-4 grand in a 03-04 cobra and get into the 10's with them with out any problems.
robert

nitrous
01-02-2006, 12:52 AM
could be Tomac, was it crew cab?

Yes, it was crew cab and I believe with a tool box in the back.

05LLY2500HD
01-08-2006, 08:40 PM
http://www.dieselperformancemotorsports.com/images/CecilGa..mpg

This one won't be seeing your cars butt.:)

I wouldn't exactly call heads, and a cam "minor" mods either. The Dmax in the first video in this thread has neither.DDDAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMNNNN!:e ek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
That is fast.

Pro400exc
01-08-2006, 09:41 PM
yes you can have a car that will run 10's and 11's and such. But what can you do w/ it? Drive one passenger around and haul golf bags,etc? Maybe drop a few panties,and it weighs what? 3500lbs?

Ok..now take a Dmax,weighs 7700lbs,you can haul 5 chicks around,load the bed up w/ crap,go off-roading,haul a trailer,get lumber,haul the buddies out to the lake,its economical for everyday use,drops panties,etc etc tec...

Lets see you do that in a 10-11sec car

ChevyPackin'Heat
01-23-2006, 06:34 PM
Hey I love it when we (us DMax guys) beat a Vette. Having one of each (Vette and DMax) I believe my DMAX will beat the Vette...in a straight line, 1/4 mile. Put one good curve in it, and let it go til the moon come out, well, you get the picture.

Not sure the point though.

TurboIndian
01-28-2006, 05:57 AM
I have yet to see anyone put together a street car that can run lower than 11s for any amount of time for a cost of $10000 much less a "well tuned" street car that runs 11s. Pretty much every "well tuned" street car that I've seen has at least a couple thousand in electronics such as a standalone engine managment computer and wideband a/f monitor all of which are not cheap. Couple the cost of good electronics with the cost of all the other parts and you are so far off it's not even funny.

In the Mustang world, you may be able to build a gutted jy car with an ABC big block. This certainly wouldnt be a street car with that kind of budget. Maybe you could do this with an older vehicle, but thats nowhere close to 10 years old. In fact I own a 10 year old mustang and I can tell you that for most cars of that vintage it costs a lot more than 10k to go in the 11s. Go look at my mod list and do the math..I have over 15k in the motor alone and im still a power adder away from those kinds of times.

How about you post some examples of these vehicles that are "near ten years old with stock bottom ends and have less than $10K in the whole vehicle" . I would like to know what your talking about. In fact I may just build one if there is such a thing!sorry to post about a month after the discussion but how about a 18-19 year old car that runs low 11's with stock unopened motor with $1,500 in mods. you say not true? ask anyone of us that can tune a Buick turbo regal to the best of it's ability. hell I went 10.96 & backed it up with a 10.97 with $3,000 in mods & .0030 wiped off #3 exhaust lobe on a flat tappet cam, oh yea I also forgot & left the A/C on on the 10.97 pass.
the only after market items were, a bad cam shaft, stock appearing turbo, fuel pump, downpipe, & cold air intake. everything else was stock.

hrleyrider
01-28-2006, 01:19 PM
I traded a 2004 c5 corvette for the Duramax i now own. There is no way my truck would even stay close to that vette. The vette was stock and so is the Duramax.

66flh
01-28-2006, 01:59 PM
I traded a 2004 c5 corvette for the Duramax i now own. There is no way my truck would even stay close to that vette. The vette was stock and so is the Duramax.Why would anyone expect a stock Dmax to keep up w/a vette?

03LB-7dmax
01-28-2006, 02:34 PM
Chiped/propane will get a duramax down the 1/4 faster than a vette!!!!But stock 2 stock,NO WAY!!!!.

ChevyPackin'Heat
01-31-2006, 11:38 AM
Stock to stock, no way. Stock c5 to souped DMax, again, in a straight line, I think the properly souped Dmax will win the 1/4 mile, easily. Especially Allison to 6 speed. Standard 6 speed shift is too slow, much more fun, but too slow.

DIESELMAN75
01-31-2006, 01:57 PM
i dont have any times or dyno numbers but from the seat of the pants my dad 66 vette with a 468 BBC with a 4 speed is one fast car and it is a panty dropper when i would take it out to cruise

66flh
01-31-2006, 01:59 PM
i dont have any times or dyno numbers but from the seat of the pants my dad 66 vette with a 468 BBC with a 4 speed is one fast car and it is a panty dropper when i would take it out to cruiseYeah,but do you think he'd lend it to me?:o:

Hired Gun
01-31-2006, 03:21 PM
If I remember correctly, Ryan also had a bed full of tractor weights because we were going to pull at Tollesboro that night, but pay out was to pathetic to even bother entering. I saw the vette it was a Zo6 and yes it was walked away from bad.

DIESELMAN75
02-01-2006, 12:58 PM
Yeah,but do you think he'd lend it to me?:o:

why would he want to lend it to you

66flh
02-01-2006, 11:39 PM
why would he want to lend it to youJust thought I'd ask.

Kurt G
02-05-2006, 11:48 AM
11.6 at 126.6 in the quarter on street tires! If it were slicks....? Good luck gentleman. Kurt

Wolford
02-05-2006, 01:30 PM
11.6 at 126.6 in the quarter on street tires! If it were slicks....? Good luck gentleman. Kurt


We are not talking about the 06 Z06.

Slick
02-05-2006, 02:21 PM
The Pro-Street guys could still handle the new Z06 on slicks. NLDP has ran 11.07, Buck and Jess are right there as well. Stock Dmax motor BTW... For a lot less than 65K. Granted they won't be doing twisties with their dmax.):h

06CrewCabDually4x4
02-06-2006, 03:30 AM
I have both, My Z06 has 725 hp, I dont care what kind of truck you got. Your not gonna beat it. Does it really matter. The fact that you can get a truck that big in the 12's is impressive. My new 06 CC Dually 4x4 has 360hp, If i could get that big *** thing in the 12's I would be jumpin all over the place :D .

Cobra#3747
02-13-2006, 08:35 PM
If you really want to get an idea what Groovilator picked up in hp, you need to know the mph of the runs. ET somewhat showes, but trap speed is a true indicator of the power being made. Stock 02-04 Z06's run 116-117/(118 on rare occasion you can find one thats supposidly stock) trap speeds.

Anyway a Z06 would need around 575 hp to run a 10.5-10.6. Sounds more like a stroker motor or power adder car than a head/cam car

TxChristopher
02-13-2006, 09:53 PM
11.6 at 126.6 in the quarter on street tires! If it were slicks....? Good luck gentleman. Kurt

The MPH shows it would be SOLIDLY in the 10's

The stock tires hold the 06 Z06 back BIGTIME.

.

Trailmaster01
02-13-2006, 10:03 PM
Boys let me tell you guys something. I have an 02 Z06 and i will race anyone with a PU truck for their house. Now mind you , anyone can make a machine that can beat another machine. But, without major money and HP ,forget it.:ro)


Money certainly $ buys a lot of stuff including HP. To repeat another member, be careful what you ask for....diesels should not be under estimated and to say major money and HP are not present in these "PU" trucks, you're setting yourself up for shock and awe....:eek: I can't believe he beat me with that "PU" truck....accept the fact that these "PU" trucks can be just as fast on a good day as the Z06s and you will accept imminent defeat.:help2: help my car just got passed with a truck towing a house.

TxChristopher
02-13-2006, 10:29 PM
If you really want to get an idea what Groovilator picked up in hp, you need to know the mph of the runs. ET somewhat showes, but trap speed is a true indicator of the power being made. Stock 02-04 Z06's run 116-117/(118 on rare occasion you can find one thats supposidly stock) trap speeds.

Anyway a Z06 would need around 575 hp to run a 10.5-10.6. Sounds more like a stroker motor or power adder car than a head/cam car

116-117 traps will get you a high 11 with good traction, somewhere in the range of 11.8

MPH doesn't lie. And the 02-04 Z06 is within range of the faster Dmax trucks for sure.

.

TxChristopher
02-13-2006, 10:31 PM
Yeah they trap at 112 at sealevel, they just said it was 6000', that makes a huge difference in air density. Could very well be the driver also

112 nets a 12.20 give or take a tenth.

.

F350CCFX4
02-15-2006, 04:12 PM
Wish a couple guys with each would just line up and run so this conversation would end.

Of course the guys doing all the talking should pay for the run.

fallen
02-15-2006, 07:20 PM
116-117 traps will get you a high 11 with good traction, somewhere in the range of 11.8

MPH doesn't lie. And the 02-04 Z06 is within range of the faster Dmax trucks for sure.

.

I have an 04 Z06. With a cold air intake I ran consistent 12.2s @ 118 with 1.9 60 ft times.(probably 365 rwhp/rwtq).


Thereafter I added a cam, headers, no catz, u/d pulley & tune. I now make 435 rwhp & 402 rwtq.

The best I could run was 12.1 @ 119, but the problem was the 1-2, 2-3 and 3-4 shifts, where the car skated and laid a ton of rubber down. Its pretty scary when the car gets sideways at 98 mph.

I think with tires, my mph would jump by 2-3 and my ets would be 11.5 or so. (This is what others are getting who have traction).

With heads and the same cam I have, people have made 425 rwtq and 480+ rwhp n/a. I think these guys can get into the tens with traction.

Good luck to all and hope to see you guys at the track.

1 FATHOG BBQ
02-23-2006, 01:01 PM
Here it is, enjoy, http://videos.streetfire.net/default.aspx?term=duramax