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: Ultra low sulfer


Mike Mac
11-27-2005, 11:56 PM
Will ultra low sulfer fuel, due out in 2007 have any any adverse affects on my lb7?

phazar
11-28-2005, 12:06 AM
im going to use stanadyne fuel addative every tank for lubricity, low sulfur is very abrasive on our fuel systems.

jholly
11-28-2005, 12:26 AM
Will ultra low sulfer fuel, due out in 2007 have any any adverse affects on my lb7?

The bureaucrats will tell you no. It will. Several years back they lowered the sulfer on diesel here in Kalifornia. EPA said not to worry, we tested it and no problemo. right. IP's were going out left and right. When the switch on gas was made from ethanol to MTBE again EPA said no problemo. right. Fuel pumps were dying faster than barn flys on a frosty night. My son lost his pump and I lost mine. Better get use to putting something in your truck to save the IP and injectors.

Jim

arguy
11-28-2005, 08:16 PM
:funnypost


The only thing that removing the Sulfur will do is increase the price of diesel.

Sulfur is not a lubricant, it is present in crude oil and must be refined out. Usually 1% - 3% Sulfur (hydrogen sulfide, sulfides, disulfides, elemental sulfur)

The US gov. wants cleaner diesel fuel......... So instead of using a % of Bio-diesel (smart thing) they are going to force the refiners into removing the Sulfur (dumb, expensive "VERY EXPENSIVE" thing...... The government wants to keep the oil business in "business" - WINK WINK - NUDGE NUDGE

:rant:

RonJT
11-28-2005, 08:55 PM
That is what I understand also..sulfur is not the lubricant...but the process of removing sulfur(expensive capital equipment) removes lubricating properties of diesel.

Just another reason to raise prices as the date for compliance nears which just add more money to the oil companies.

Adding bio makes so much sense...but it does not add money to the oil companies...so no go.

Sidebite252
11-28-2005, 09:11 PM
Now correct me if I'm wrong but I thought EP (Extreme Pressure) lubricants contained a "type" of sulfer. I understood we could run it in a lot of applications where gears were concerned (gear oil) but could not use it where brass was a material. So...it's not a lubricant but does it in some way help protect in some way? After all, all these fuel additives are suppose to help protect fuel systems from "low sulfur" fuels

ktmrfs
11-28-2005, 09:34 PM
Now correct me if I'm wrong but I thought EP (Extreme Pressure) lubricants contained a "type" of sulfer. I understood we could run it in a lot of applications where gears were concerned (gear oil) but could not use it where brass was a material. So...it's not a lubricant but does it in some way help protect in some way? After all, all these fuel additives are suppose to help protect fuel systems from "low sulfur" fuels

sulphur is not strictly a lubricant, but it is an anti-wear adative. subtle difference. I also remember reading that removing sulphur also ends up removing some other lubricating properties of diesel.

The reason for removing sulphur is to allow catalytic converters to work without plugging. So adding bio diesel w/o removing sulphur doesn't help much. For what its worth, Europe has been running lower sulphur diesel than we get for many years. IIRC the european fuel is as low or lower than the new us standards coming into force.

arguy
11-28-2005, 10:06 PM
Europe has been running lower sulphur diesel than we get for many years. IIRC the european fuel is as low or lower than the new us standards coming into force.

I agree,

BRENT LIGHT SWEET naturally low sulfur - .37% Sulfur, refined in the United Kingdom for Northwest Europe. The only crude that is lower is WTI (West Texas intermedate) @ .24% refined for Midwest and Gulf Coast regions of the US