EFILive LLY Beta test call out [Archive] - Diesel Place : Chevrolet and GMC Diesel Truck Forums

: EFILive LLY Beta test call out


Flashscan
11-24-2005, 01:30 AM
EFILive has successfully commenced it's LB7 BETA testing program and has confirmed a public release date for the first week of December for LB7 sales. EFILive is now ahead of it’s beta schedule and is pleased to announce we are now looking for people to participate in our LLY Beta test program. EFILive will soon offer support for the Duramax LLY (2004.5 to 2006) motor, so if you own or work with these engines then you may qualify to join us in our beta test program.

EFILive's Duramax programming opens the world to untapped power from these awesome 6.6L V8, never before has anybody offered such a detailed tuning solution to the Duramax market.

No more add on boxes fooling the ECM, no need to 'stack', no more unwanted check engine lights, with EFILive you have complete control with over 100 parameters and tables to alter directly in the ECM from injection timing, injection amount (both pilot and main) for more power and better MPG, plus of course the simple things like VATS bypass, tire/speedo rescaling and the ability to change many diagnostic fault code parameters like overboost and DTC enablers.

Workshops will appreciate the option to lock ECM's from other tuners being able to read or write to that ECM, this includes the GM dealers!. Lock reversal and programming standard programs back into the ECM is a quick 40 second operation.

Team our awesome editor up with the best scantool on the market that includes features like the ability to log up to 25 mins of data without a laptop, built in EGT input that is logged alongside the engine data and you have a Duramax tuning and scanning solution rivalled by no other.

But if that's not enough, prices start from just $699 which will allow you to program any two vehicles EFILive supports (Duramax LB7, Duramax LLY or LS1), then after that, additional vehicle programming licenses can be purchased via Email for under $100 with a maximum of 25 per cable.

Over the last year EFILive has taken LS1 tuning and scanning to a new level, now it's time for the LLY Duramax!.

We are looking for all levels of users to help us get the product tailored
to all spectrums of the market before it's public release. The LLY package is expected to be on sale late December 2005, a couple of months ahead of our original projection.
To initially qualify you must answer yes to all these questions -
1 - Do you own or have unlimited access to an LLY Duramax that you will be willing to program?
2 - Do you have at least a basic understanding of Diesel tuning and have an EGT probe?
3 - Do you own a laptop with a USB port and have good general PC knowledge?
4 - Do you finally want to get rid of plug in modules and generic one size fits all tunes from your truck?.
5 - You are prepared to purchase the EFILive product (if not already owned) to conduct the beta testing with.
6 - You are prepared to sign and return a non-compete and confidentiality agreement with EFILive.


If you answered yes to all the above, then please send an Email to - betadiesel@efilive.com with a brief bio of yourself or your company, all Emails will be treated confidentially. Applications close on November 28th, so be quick. To those of you who jumped the gun for LLY when we announced LB7, we have kept your email on file, but do ask that you review your submission and ensure that all the selection criteria has been addressed. EFILive screenshots can be viewed in our LB7 post.
http://dieselplace.com/forum/showthread.php?t=48269 (http://dieselplace.com/forum/showthread.php?t=48269)
To dowload a free copy of EFILive, refer to my signiture below.

Thank you,

Ross

_nar_
11-24-2005, 03:24 AM
Great. :)

Couple questions. Somehow I had the impression you could load your tune to the scantool and then flash the pcm with that. Looks like I was wrong, rereading the lb7 thread, you still have to use the usb cable and flash the pcm from the computer? If so I will just have to get a really long usb cable, then I won't need a laptop. ;)

Also, anyone can download the software and start learning to use it? Then just buy the scanner and cable and install tune on your truck? That seems like a really cool deal.

Wow you guys have a fast server. Average 226, 4:58 to get that file. :rocking:

I better get around to getting some gauges.

bobo
11-24-2005, 04:29 AM
I'm signing up!

Flashscan
11-24-2005, 07:24 AM
Couple questions. Somehow I had the impression you could load your tune to the scantool and then flash the pcm with that. Looks like I was wrong, rereading the lb7 thread, you still have to use the usb cable and flash the pcm from the computer? If so I will just have to get a really long usb cable, then I won't need a laptop. ;)

Both the scantool and tuner are PC based, the 'adaptor' between the PC and vehicle does have the ability to log data (about 25mins) without a laptop but not program. With 2nd hand PC's worthy of running the software going for about $200 you could always just have a desktop PC in the garage :)
In fact the actual programming part does not need much CPU power, all you would need is a 250MHz Pentium and Win98, plenty of cheap laptops on Ebay with those specs.
Faster CPU power is needed when data logging for chart and gauge display update rates.


Also, anyone can download the software and start learning to use it? Then just buy the scanner and cable and install tune on your truck? That seems like a really cool deal.

Yes, the current download only has LS1 ability though.
But at least you can certainly get a feel for the software and if you get really enthusiastic you could always read the manuals.

Cheers,
Ross

Max Power
11-24-2005, 08:46 AM
Great news! sent my email. Hopefully you got it.

DURAtotheMAX
11-24-2005, 09:24 AM
Awesome!!!!! My email is SENT!!!

---Ben

turbo-max
11-24-2005, 09:36 AM
sounds like great news!

nuts46
11-24-2005, 10:37 AM
Email sent

RickDLance
11-24-2005, 11:15 AM
What will the purchase cost be to the testers? Normally when I test for someone the product is free, but #5 on your list leads me to believe I would have to pay to do your research! Whats up?

Dave Lewis
11-24-2005, 11:41 AM
Will the software have the ability to read balance rates, etc? I was looking for a list but couldn't find one. I know what I want for Christmas. Do you hear that Santa? :)

bobo
11-24-2005, 12:01 PM
Santa is fake.

Flashscan
11-24-2005, 05:54 PM
Rick,
The beta testers do purchase the product at a discounted rate, the beta test is more just a confirmation that things look normal and work as expected on various vehicle combinations not a blank sheet let us have you truck so we can figure it all out type deal.

Dave,
Below is a list of parameters that can be logged in the scantool.
Typically to retain fast data rates 15 - 18 parameters from that list below would be logged at once.

Cheers,
Ross

Actual Fuel Rail Pressure
Air Flow Rate from Mass Air Flow Sensor
Barometric Pressure
Boost Pressure
Desired Fuel Rail Pressure
Engine Coolant Temperature
Engine RPM
External Thermocouple Temperature
Intake Air Temperature
Main Injection Fuel Flow Rate
Main Injection On Time
Main Injection Timing
Pilot Injection Fuel Flow Rate
Pilot Injection On Time
Pilot Injection Timing
Throttle Position
Vehicle Speed Sensor
Absolute Pedal Position
Absolute Pedal Position
Absolute Pedal Position
Air Conditioner Pressure
Air Conditioner Pressure Sensor Voltage
Air mass per cylinder
Anti Theft State
Auxiliary Input Status
Balancing Fuel Flow Rate Cylinder #1
Balancing Fuel Flow Rate Cylinder #2
Balancing Fuel Flow Rate Cylinder #3
Balancing Fuel Flow Rate Cylinder #4
Balancing Fuel Flow Rate Cylinder #5
Balancing Fuel Flow Rate Cylinder #6
Balancing Fuel Flow Rate Cylinder #7
Balancing Fuel Flow Rate Cylinder #8
Barometric Pressure Sensor Voltage
Battery Voltage
Bi-directional response code
Boost Pressure Sensor Voltage
Calculated Fuel Rate
Calculated LOAD Value
Cam Reference Pulses Missed
Catalyst Temperature
Commanded Fuel Rail Pressure Regulator Current
Commanded Fuel Rail Pressure Regulator Flow
Crank Sensor Pulses Missed
Desired Exhaust Gas Recirculation Valve Position
Desired Fuel Rail Pressure Regulator Current
Desired Idle Speed
Desired Turbo Vane Position
Desired Turbo Vane Position Solenoid Current
Distance Traveled While MIL is Activated
EGR Commanded Opening
EGR Vacuum
Electronic Spark Timing Diagnostics
Engine Coolant Temperature at Startup
Engine Oil Life
Engine Oil Pressure
Engine Run Time
Exhaust Gas Recirculation Learned Pintle Position
Exhaust Gas Recirculation Pintle Position Error
Exhaust Gas Recirculation Valve Position
Exhaust Gas Recirculation Valve Sensor Voltage
External Analog Voltage 1
External Analog Voltage 2
Freeze Frame Counter
Freeze Frame not Run Counter
Freeze Frame Pass Counter
Fuel Level
Fuel Level Sender/Sensor Voltage (Primary, Left Tank)
Fuel Level Sensor Voltage (Secondary, Right Tank)
Fuel Rail Pressure Regulator Commanded
Fuel Remaining
Fuel Tank Rated Capacity
Fuel Temperature
Gear Selector
Glow Plug Feedback Voltage
Injector Pulse Width Injector 1
Injector Pulse Width Injector 2
Injector Pulse Width Injector 3
Injector Pulse Width Injector 4
Injector Pulse Width Injector 5
Injector Pulse Width Injector 6
Injector Pulse Width Injector 7
Injector Pulse Width Injector 8
Intake Air Heater Voltage
Intake Manifold Absolute Pressure
Leanred Turbo Vane Position Closed
Leanred Turbo Vane Position Open
MAF Sensor Voltage
Mileage Since Last Code Cleared
Monitor status since DTCs cleared
OBD Requirements to which vehicle is designed
Odometer When First Code Set, Since Cleared
Odometer When Last Code Set Was Cleared
Output Driver #3 Status (Open)
Output Driver #3 Status (Shorted)
Turbo Vane Position
Turbo Vane Position Solenoid Current
Warm-up Cycles Without Emissions Fault
Warm-up Cycles Without Non-Emissions Fault

nuts46
11-24-2005, 06:07 PM
:confused: Is that it?

nuts46
11-24-2005, 06:09 PM
:joke:

Dave Lewis
11-24-2005, 06:13 PM
You could give us an early Christmas present and release it early :).

McRat
11-25-2005, 04:11 PM
Sent you an email. ;)

blue68383
11-25-2005, 08:21 PM
Sounds great:D . Sent an email.

DURAtotheMAX
11-25-2005, 08:52 PM
will we hear back from you if we sent an email? I just want to make sure my email went through.

--Ben

Air Man
11-25-2005, 09:28 PM
I'm in. Email sent.

TurboBeagleBuggy
11-26-2005, 10:49 PM
e-mail sent

Flashscan
11-26-2005, 11:50 PM
We have recieved a large number of Emails. It is impossible for us to respond to everyone acknowledging an email receipt. All applications that were sent to the BETA test email address will get a reply Email on the 28th.

Please note, we have had a number of emails simply stating "I'm interested" These statements do not give us enough information to assess the suitability of the applicant.

Cheers,
Ross

bobo
11-28-2005, 08:54 AM
Today is the big day! I have my fingers crossed!!!

turbo lcc
11-28-2005, 12:56 PM
is there any good information that a newbie can start reading before EFI Live is released that would give some good basic tuning info for diesels?

turbo-max
11-28-2005, 04:19 PM
i do believe i will buy this as soon as it becomes available

Flashscan
11-28-2005, 04:53 PM
Today is the big day! I have my fingers crossed!!!

Everyone will get an Email in about 12hrs time.

Cheers,
Ross

turbodan
11-28-2005, 10:21 PM
EFI live is the best tuning equipment on the market for gm's lsx motors. I have high hopes for it in my dmax as well.:ro)

turbo lcc
11-28-2005, 10:50 PM
can someone expand on how difficult the acutal tuning will be? Will it be possible for the novice user to write one with out destroying the motor?

coyotekid
11-29-2005, 02:19 AM
To what extent will we be able to control boost via EFILive? I would assume we'll have full control on the LLY...

I'm wondering if I should save my pennies or go ahead and buy PPE's boost controller.

marksrt43
11-29-2005, 03:18 AM
How many changes can I make on my truck? or is it just two changed loads?

Is there any risk of me causing damage to my engine, or do you have any safety built in incase I make a mistake? I don't want to burn my new truck to the ground, computers have been known to freeze up in my hands...:(

If I set my truck back to stock, can I re-sell your program to a friend or even a stranger to use? Or is it like a used gun shell after 2 loads and I just have to toss it?

Flashscan
11-29-2005, 03:49 AM
turbo lcc - you probably should educate yourself a bit first, or stay tuned around here, I'm sure others will share the knowledge over time.

coyotekid - you will have full control over the boost, if the ECM controls it, you will be able to modify it. Whatever the mechanical boost limits are with the factory turbo you will be able to reach them.

marksrt43 - you can reprogram your truck 1,000 times if you wish, the license works per vehicle, not how many times you program that vehicle.
The product is shipped with 2 licenses, so you chose the two vehicles you wish to program (you are prompted when you attempt to program a vehicle) then you can reprogram those two vehicles as many times as you wish. If you wish to add a 3rd, 4th, 10th vehicle to program it costs $99 per vehicle.
You cannot reset the license usage, once it's programmed a vehicle that is it.
You can cause a major meltdown if you wanted to, it is too hard to build in 'safety' margins not knowing if the end user is chasing an extra 30Hp or 300Hp.

Cheers,
Ross

Flashscan
11-29-2005, 07:33 AM
Beta applications are now closed, Emails have been sent to all that applied, please don't be offended if you did not make it, if you did, welcome aboard.

Thanks,
Ross

turbo lcc
11-29-2005, 10:09 AM
turbo lcc - you probably should educate yourself a bit first, or stay tuned around here, I'm sure others will share the knowledge over time.


Do you have any good reading material a person can start the education process?

IdahoRob
11-29-2005, 11:38 AM
Dooh! Recieved the email. Looks like I'll be waiting for the production units:( I'll let you guys fiqure out what works best and copycat, so get busy.

chp777
11-29-2005, 12:43 PM
yup me to idaho rob
i hope it get release soon i wanna play with it

coyotekid
11-29-2005, 02:23 PM
Well I guess I don't feel so bad I didn't make the cut then either...:)

I do understand that EFI can't let EVERYONE be a beta tester. They've got to draw the line somewhere. There are undoubtedly better testers out there than me because they have a lot more experience.

Air Man
11-29-2005, 04:44 PM
I didn't make the cut either, didn't think I would, there are many far more qualified people on this board than I.

I'll be watching this very closely. I believe the possibilities with EFI Live are endless.

If we get hit with a emissions testing, we can download a "clean tune" that would put just enough fuel to keep the engine running.

Us LLY guys may be able to disconnect the VVT function and put one of those big aftermarket LB7 waste gate turbos on.

The potential is endless.

I'm really excited about this.

CntrlCalDmax
11-29-2005, 04:47 PM
Well I guess I don't feel so bad I didn't make the cut then either...:)

I do understand that EFI can't let EVERYONE be a beta tester. They've got to draw the line somewhere. There are undoubtedly better testers out there than me because they have a lot more experience.

Sounds like there is 25 of us waiting for now. It also looks like we can order the LS1 version and use it for data tracking while we wait for the LLY software to be released. Then download the software and we are ready to go. Do I understand this correctly?

Opie
11-29-2005, 08:07 PM
Beta applications are now closed, Emails have been sent to all that applied, please don't be offended if you did not make it, if you did, welcome aboard.

Thanks,
Ross

Ross,

Putting who made the cut off list a side, this sounds like the most promising product for the Duramax's to date. When it's available please let me know before IdahoRob!;)

Hope all goes well,

Opie

marksrt43
11-29-2005, 11:15 PM
My truck runs great with what I got, I'll play it safe, and leave the experiments to the computer experts.....

Trippin
11-30-2005, 01:15 AM
Sounds like there is 25 of us waiting for now. It also looks like we can order the LS1 version and use it for data tracking while we wait for the LLY software to be released. Then download the software and we are ready to go. Do I understand this correctly?

Actually full LB7 version will be released next week. With this you can clear codes and data log your LLY until the end of December when the LLY version is expected to be released. :D

I have a bunch ready to ship any time you guys are ready.

Back to Beta testing..............................

GTA23109a
11-30-2005, 04:39 AM
Back to Beta testing..............................

Yah, get back to work and learn ALLLLLL the ins and outs of that stuff so the rest of us can bogart your knowledge. ;)

DURAtotheMAX
11-30-2005, 04:54 PM
Ross-- how should we go about getting our names added to the Beta Duramax forum on the EFILive forum? I already made an account name..

thanks,
Ben

Lennart
11-30-2005, 06:22 PM
....
Catalyst Temperature
Commanded Fuel Rail Pressure Regulator Current
Commanded Fuel Rail Pressure Regulator Flow
Crank Sensor Pulses Missed
Desired Exhaust Gas Recirculation Valve Position
Desired Fuel Rail Pressure Regulator Current
Desired Idle Speed
Desired Turbo Vane Position
Desired Turbo Vane Position Solenoid Current
Distance Traveled While MIL is Activated
EGR Commanded Opening
EGR Vacuum
Electronic Spark Timing Diagnostics
....


???
Did I pass the test?:joke:

Flashscan
11-30-2005, 06:26 PM
Yes, I could go on that it was a setup......but no, I did a cut/paste of the full PID list and it would appear I left one in from the LS1 :(

Cheers,
Ross

Wasted Income
12-11-2005, 04:54 PM
Guys with LLY stuff, how is it working out for you???? I don't wanna sell my programmer if it's not working well!!! Still haven't heard a peep from anyone with an LLY!?!

SteveNorCal
12-11-2005, 06:56 PM
They are probably under strict guidelines not to say anything until it is released (at least that's the way it was when I was a LLY beta tester for Edge).

Wasted Income
12-11-2005, 07:45 PM
Well maybe Flashscan can give us an update about how well it works on an LLY???

Flashscan
12-12-2005, 06:36 AM
Well maybe Flashscan can give us an update about how well it works on an LLY???

Well, we had some delays in actually getting the LLY version to the beta testers (sorry guys), they only got it in the last 24hrs!.

We'll post some results here over the next few days.

Cheers,
Ross

sp33d
12-12-2005, 01:10 PM
All that I can say is that we are having fun :D

DURAtotheMAX
12-12-2005, 01:15 PM
thats for sure!!!!

patience, everyone...its coming!

Wasted Income
12-12-2005, 01:50 PM
Thanks Ross! I just want to make sure that it works as well on the LLY as it seems to on the LB7 before dropping 700 clams.

IdahoRob
12-14-2005, 12:11 AM
Feels like Christmas and groundhog day in one. I can see the gift for the LLY's under the tree, but everytime I head over to open, the day starts over just before I get there.

The racing season starts for me in April, EFI guys get-her-done. Guess I'll be calling you Tripp.

My Christmas list is getting out of hand: SC stage 5, 5" exhaust, EFI, head studs, tires. I must of been a bad, bad boy... my wife said O.K.:D :D :D

Rob

GMC-2002-Dmax
12-14-2005, 12:21 AM
The LLY stuff is different from the LB7 but it looks like a lot of unlocked potential awaits in those tuning tables.........:cool:

You guys will be in for some fun, but you can't play if you don't have the hardware........

WHAT ARE YOU GUYS WAITING FOR ???????
.
.
:rolleyes:
.
EFI~LIVE :ro) (http://www.socaldiesel.com/)
.
.

Chisuzu
12-14-2005, 03:11 AM
WHAT ARE YOU GUYS WAITING FOR ???????
.

Beta testing to be over. :D