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sdaver
02-17-2004, 10:11 AM
Lots of speculation about whos on which team. This is a thread to settle all and ball busting is allowed. List your power box or ecm stack or preference and your tranny updates or who you favor for future updates. Vendors beware if you join this conversation you could get a bloody nose. Enter at your on risk. Everyone thats been offended before and bitched go read about fog lights or tire weights. This is a power and performance question leading up to this weeks LA dyno day

My prefrences are the following

single box or ecm.......tts extreme

best stack..........tts 120, 145 edge, duramaximizer,propane or tts extreme and propane

tranny upgrade to hold the above Suncoast level 5

lets try to keep everyones personal info out of it................Dave
Edited by: sdaver

White Duramax
02-17-2004, 01:33 PM
I'll go,


Best single box, Quad 230 Module aka Bid VA


Stack would have to be predator, Duramaximizer, Quad Module and some extra fuel!


Worst, well Im going to have to stick the tst comp there, only because of the bursting though, otherwise alright.


Tranny, well stock sucks and that is all i have right now.


No lift pump yet, should have some new numbers at the end of the month.Edited by: White Duramax

BMDMAX
02-17-2004, 02:01 PM
Ok, I will bite.


Best single power box "I" have run: Quad 215


Best stack: HJ 125 & Quad 215 or HJAT 145 & Quad 215


Suncoast Level 4 Tranny.


What's the secret handshake to get a TTS?


Might want to add your best power number and whether or not you are running a lift pump.


Best Power on # 2 diesel only: 525


Best Torque on # 2 diesel only: 1014


Lift pump: No

Burner
02-17-2004, 03:45 PM
What can I say....... Reading and speaking with many and seeing very few I'd say.........


All aound "Good O'le Boy box" would be the Edge/Attitude combo. Best bang, power and (EGT/Trans) protection for the buck.


Best single box for power and driving, I'll tip my hat to TTS.


Best "programmer" power would go to Quadd.


Best "programmer" box, overall, would be Diablo. The readings, codes and goodies just can't be beat for the price. However, it does run a little hot in EGT's has some fishbite problems and no where close to the Quadd on power but, it does make a great stacker.


I won't run NOS or the Pain, so I won't go there.


Best stack I've see.......... TTS and pain. I would REALLY like to see this with NOS and a little more fuel.


----- Best Trans? Hands down will go to SunCoast Level 5 -------


What I see a lot of........ Edge/*** HOT with Diablo. I can't help it, it's in my dash. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Wink.gif





Rich----------> http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif





Edited by: Burner

Camstyn
02-17-2004, 03:57 PM
The best in every category is the Bully Dog Max Power Plug. Makes over 750RWHP, 1600ft/lb torque, and has built in tranny protection. Absolutely won't tear up your stock tranny. It will make a Cummins or Powerchoke beside you throw engine codes, and electronically controls the up/down of your tailgate. It also monitors tire pressure and heat, and comes with an auto-reinflation system so you don't have to worry about flats. It will make your stereo sound cooler and make the beautiful women instinctively flock to your truck like the salmon of capistrano.


There's one on ebay too, going very cheap!http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2460396151&category=33 597

GSXRTURBO1
02-17-2004, 04:38 PM
Camstyn, how much will you let it go for? Email me at GSXRTurbo1@aol.com

Ray403Dmax
02-17-2004, 04:46 PM
Here's a ball busting power stack for those home run derby baseball players of the past: growth hormone, nandrolone decanoate, and an androl chaser. And I don't beleive any of it is available on ebay.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif

sdaver
02-17-2004, 05:20 PM
http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Approve.gif Edited by: sdaver

Mackin
02-17-2004, 05:21 PM
Best single : MM's with Peanuts


Best stack : Red Dog & MM's ...................


Tranny : Nike's


Mac http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Embarrased.gif

king d
02-17-2004, 05:42 PM
i agree locked and moved to the war zone a bit early.nobady got ugly or spoke out of line that i could see.i feel you guys(moderators) are removing very good info from the power and perfoormance section.granted sdaver is a chest beating flag wearing banks and quadzilla power pushing power monger who has his own resident post whore agenda...but i truley beleive his intentions are honest and sincerehttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif....for my two cents as of right now...quadzilla power 215 best to date single box 455,not dynoed extreme yet.best stack 492...quad 215 and hot 145 w/ attitude 490ish best big stack over 600 w/215 and pane and nos best ultimate stack over 700 with tts,ppe and edge and some extra gases. transmissions i go with suncoast but i know others choose different and that is ok....dynoing the extreme with dippers hot oj should be good for atleast 150 hp this weekendhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cool.gif with a dmaxamizer and a little nos and pane and should get about 600http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif maybe more .good post dave sorry it gotr moved here but ...flame on

socaldmax
02-17-2004, 05:45 PM
I'm kinda partial to Canadian whiskey. After a litre (is that how they spell it?) of that, I'm faster than anybody. Just ask me.


Best stack: Mugen sticker, fart can and GTech Pro.


Reminds me of that one post where somebody asked how many hp a GTech Pro adds... ROTFLMAO!!


On FredW's it adds about 150hp! http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cool.gif

Burner
02-17-2004, 05:53 PM
I don't know about "tossing a salad" but I can tell you about a "clam bake". http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gifhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif





Burner--------> http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif

BIG DIPPER
02-17-2004, 06:08 PM
"This is a thread to settle all and ball busting is allowed."


"Vendors(carrot slingers)beware if you join this conversation you could get a bloody nose."





I agree ....hasn't gotten hasty yet....


I think what Dave meant was, if you are gonna get in it and take a swing at someone.....not to turn and run with your tail between your legs when it comes back at ya and cry to a moderator or something...http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Evil Smile.gif


If you can dish it out....you better be able to take it....especially around here....this ain't your average forum.....hehehehttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Approve.gif


I wish I had some upgrades to post.....maybe one day....hehehehehttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Wink.gif

GMC-2002-Dmax
02-17-2004, 06:58 PM
Best runs with Tuner & Stack...........bone stock Allison.....


single tuner --------- > Quad 215.....


Stack ---------------> Quad 215/VA 230 .....


tranny --------------> Still deciding http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Confused.gif





Thttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clown.gifNYEdited by: GMC-2002-Dmax

Amric
02-17-2004, 07:38 PM
Best Single: Quad 215


Best Stack: Quad 215, HJ/AT, NOS


Best Trans: ATS


Best Intake: AFE Stage 2


Best Exhaust: Banks 4" Stainless


Best Filter/Kit: ?????


Best Lift Pump: ?????


Biggest Aftermarket Mistakes: No Tie-rods, No computer mods for Allison, No Exhaust Manifolds or Downpipe

JRmac
02-17-2004, 08:06 PM
POWER & PERFORMANCE?................WAR-ROOM?....................POWER & PERFORMANCE?


KINDA LIKE HIDE & SEEK..................were haven fun now, SWEET!!!!http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif





VAN AAKEN has forgot more than most know, but all the really good ones are unavalible. CPMac has the baddest VA I've ever seen.


QUAD & his products have worked great for me and my truck. The 215 QUAD is the best single box out to date. (has some small issues but nothing major,.........AND......... it's availble to EVERYONE!)


The TSTcomp stacks well, great for fine tuning at the track!


The VA stacks great also, and can smooth out some problems.


I don't know of one single box (to date) good for 500rwhp. That's wishfull thinking!


The other's?...................Well I guess that's for the WAR-ROOM!http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif

Michigana_Joe
02-17-2004, 08:44 PM
Ultimate Stack (dyno only) = Quad 215 + Ether Fogger


Just don't ask me to back up my results with a second run... http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clown.gif

Morse
02-17-2004, 08:51 PM
BURNER, WHAT KIND OF TIMES ARE YOU TURNING WITH YOUR STACK.. I HAVE THE SAME SETUP, THOUGH I HAVEN'T GOT TO MAKE A PASS WITH THE SMALL TIRES.. JUST CURIOUS... THANKS...

BROKER
02-17-2004, 09:17 PM
Pnut, how much power gain from penut oil in the tank and stacking stickers?http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clown.gif





Maybe its time for me to buy a D/A regcab 2500hd 4x4 for the stables and get stacking.You guys are just havin to much fun!http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clown.gif

PEANUTGRWR
02-17-2004, 09:17 PM
BETTER WATCH IT DAVER OR YOUR'E GONNA END UP IN DEEP sh*t!!http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif


http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/uploads/781_DAVER.jpg

Diesel Power
02-17-2004, 09:22 PM
Best single: TTS Extreme


Best stack: TTS extreme/HJ 125 (but i am going to roll the TTS120 & HJ145 this weekend to try)


Tranny Upgrade: Transgo kit w/ 190 PSI valve, TTS converter

Mike L.
02-17-2004, 11:35 PM
I think it should be against the law for any of you guys running more than an 80 hp tow program.

Mike L.
02-17-2004, 11:37 PM
You guys didn't believe that sh*t did you?http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif

Burner
02-18-2004, 12:52 AM
Morse,


I have yet to "stack" power programs. I only use the D for tires, speed and dio.


I have not had the chance to run at the track. My truck is laiden with tools, she weighs 8,000 lbs 99% of the time.


However, I have quite a few Dyno runs. I do have several runs that are over 400 HP.... but I'm not tell'n how much. Give me 60 days from today and I might just find the 502 stock HP of the motor. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Geek.gif





Burner-----------> http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif

JRmac
02-18-2004, 02:06 PM
Burner:


Question #1


I'm lost now???..............Diablo instaled for speed & tires/Hot Juice *** for power? Isn't this kinda sorta like a stackhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Ermm.gif,...........YEP, YEP, YES your stacked enjoyhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Approve.gif.


Question #2


Why you no like NOS!!!!.........IT IS ONLY AIR,..........AIR IS A DIESEL'S BEST FREIND.


I do agree though PRO-PAIN can make PAIN if done wrong.

BMDMAX
02-18-2004, 03:01 PM
JRMAC,


Yes NOS can be a good thing. It offers big gains but it does have some problems. It is not always there when you want/need it, it is expensive, filling the bottle is a pita, it can be a big bomb if you don't handle it properly, and can easily destroy your engine if you don't know what you are doing.


I stick with making the most power on #2 for as long as possible before resorting to bottle feeding. JMO. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Approve.gif


Plus, throwing a big nitrous shot just proves you got big balls or tons o' cash if it grenades, not how good your module/programmer/ECM is. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Embarrased.gif

king d
02-18-2004, 04:23 PM
in my opinion and it is mine and no one else,i think nos is no more risky than adding a big programer and stacking something with it.i think you may feel that nos on a diesel acts like nos on a car...it doesnt.propane on a diesel is much like nos on a car.it provides fuel and timing.in most cases if you keep your boost levels in check and slowly progress with nos it will get to a point were no more power is gotten or the truck will begin to lay over a bit.hope this helps....jess

JRmac
02-18-2004, 04:37 PM
BMDMAX:


WHY DON'T YOU EXPLAIN HOW NOS CAN DAMAGE A DIESEL?http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Geek.gif..........IT'S AIR AND THAT'S ALL(nos dose not burn!).


KING D:


I'VE SHOT NOS AT AN IDLE.............DOSEN'T CHANGE ANYTHING.Edited by: JRmac

Burner
02-18-2004, 04:52 PM
JRmac,


When the diesel fuel is compressed, at what point does it explode & what is the tempreture of the piston at this point?


Burner-----------> ?

BMDMAX
02-18-2004, 05:36 PM
JRMAC,


Are you saying that you can use NOS with no increased danger? Looking at just NOS alone, yes it is more air but.....


Take a big shot of nitrous and add it to a truck that is overfueling quite a bit, whether from larger injectors, an aggressive box, whatever. Once that nitrous comes in and allows a complete burn of the fuel that was just being expended as black smoke before and *bam* you have a big cylinder pressure increase. That's where the danger lies.


Can you do it a bunch of time with no failures? Sure you can, plenty here are doing so. Does a diesel stand a better chance than a gasser to stand up to the abuse since detonation is not an issue? Yep. Can you say there is no risk, especially if you don't know WTF you are doing? NO.


I never said anything about just running the truck on NOS alone. Thinking I did is just plain retarded. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Geek.gif


Could be I am just a rube who does not know better though. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Disapprove.gif

CPMac
02-18-2004, 07:20 PM
Best performing Single box on my truck.


Quad 215 = 470 rwhp


VA ? = 452 rwhp


TST Comp (old version haven't tried the new one on the dyno yet) = 431


TTS (race or extreme) = 0 Steve would not sell me either version because he knew I already had better and he couldn't compete so he saved me the time and money. Thanks Steve.


Best Stack on my truck


Too much typing

JRmac
02-18-2004, 08:18 PM
JRMAC,


Are you saying that you can use NOS with no increased danger? Looking at just NOS alone, yes it is more air but.....


Take a big shot of nitrous and add it to a truck that is overfueling quite a bit, whether from larger injectors, an aggressive box, whatever. Once that nitrous comes in and allows a complete burn of the fuel that was just being expended as black smoke before and *bam* you have a big cylinder pressure increase. That's where the danger lies.


Can you do it a bunch of time with no failures? Sure you can, plenty here are doing so. Does a diesel stand a better chance than a gasser to stand up to the abuse since detonation is not an issue? Yep. Can you say there is no risk, especially if you don't know WTF you are doing? NO.


I never said anything about just running the truck on NOS alone. Thinking I did is just plain retarded. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Geek.gif


Could be I am just a rube who does not know better though. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Disapprove.gif EDUCATION TIME...................Take a truck with no fuel system mods add NOS and show me HP gains!!!!.................NOS is just like adding a BIGGER TURBO or an EXTRA TURBO.(more AIR).......Show me how air hurts a DIESEL.............Now if you ADD MORE FUEL AND AIR, yes cylinder psi will raise....................BUT WAS IT THE AIR OR THE FUEL THAT CAUSED A RAISE IN PSI!..............LATER JRmac-a-tact

Mackin
02-18-2004, 08:19 PM
Best performing Single box on my truck.


Quad 215 = 470 rwhp


VA ? = 452 rwhp


TST Comp (old version haven't tried the new one on the dyno yet) = 431


TTS (race or extreme) = 0 Steve would not sell me either version because he knew I already had better and he couldn't compete so he saved me the time and money. Thanks Steve.


Best Stack on my truck


Too much typing





Now hold on there Big Mac ..... If LIL Mac says ,"


VAN AAKEN has forgot more than most know, <font color="red">but all the really good ones are unavalible. CPMac has the baddest VA I've ever seen.


"


Where can I get one ??


Who's the Kettle and who's the Pot ??


Smackin http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif

CPMac
02-18-2004, 08:23 PM
Mackin I was referring to versions of the VA that were available to the public at one time not custom or one off files.

Mackin
02-18-2004, 08:30 PM
Mackin I was referring to versions of the VA that were available to the public at one time not custom or one off files.


Hey I'm stirring ..... http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Embarrased.gif


I dyno'd 450 (alone no stack ) in front of a crowd with a VA and a Allison last CT dyno day .... Do I need to fax it round and round ??


Mac http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif


When I added some VA pressure I went backwards,that confused us ....Edited by: Mackin

CPMac
02-18-2004, 08:44 PM
What kind of pressure. If I add the standard 70 hp VA pressure file with the timing removed I make 476 rwhp.

Mackin
02-18-2004, 09:02 PM
What kind of pressure. If I add the standard 70 hp VA pressure file with the timing removed I make 476 rwhp.


That's it exactly .... http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Confused.gif Droped HP picked up a lil torque ....


They'll be anouther time,it was towards the end and may have been operator error,me or dyno operator,dunno ....


People were getting antsy ,they wanted me OFF the dyno ,dem babies ....


Mac http://mail.wackywack.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif

king d
02-18-2004, 09:43 PM
KING D:


I'VE SHOT NOS AT AN IDLE.............DOSEN'T CHANGE ANYTHING. so have i and i dont reccomend it,it rattles like hell and the truck cut off,leg hit the switch will climbing in the truck,to much oxygen and not enough fuel isnt a good thinghttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Embarrased.gif

BMDMAX
02-18-2004, 09:49 PM
JRMAC,


Are you saying that you can use NOS with no increased danger? Looking at just NOS alone, yes it is more air but.....


Take a big shot of nitrous and add it to a truck that is overfueling quite a bit, whether from larger injectors, an aggressive box, whatever. Once that nitrous comes in and allows a complete burn of the fuel that was just being expended as black smoke before and *bam* you have a big cylinder pressure increase. That's where the danger lies.


Can you do it a bunch of time with no failures? Sure you can, plenty here are doing so. Does a diesel stand a better chance than a gasser to stand up to the abuse since detonation is not an issue? Yep. Can you say there is no risk, especially if you don't know WTF you are doing? NO.


I never said anything about just running the truck on NOS alone. Thinking I did is just plain retarded. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Geek.gif


Could be I am just a rube who does not know better though. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Disapprove.gif


EDUCATION TIME...................Take a truck with no fuel system mods add NOS and show me HP gains!!!!.................NOS is just like adding a BIGGER TURBO or an EXTRA TURBO.(more AIR).......Show me how air hurts a DIESEL.............Now if you ADD MORE FUEL AND AIR, yes cylinder psi will raise....................BUT WAS IT THE AIR OR THE FUEL THAT CAUSED A RAISE IN PSI!..............LATER JRmac-a-tact


JRMAC,


I'll go over this again for you, I know it takes more time for the government school educated for it to sink in. Add NOS to a truck with no fuel system mods? I already said I agree in that case you are adding just air. Who just adds NOS to a truck with no other mods? Maybe a fast and the furious idiot.


Extra air won't hurt a diesel. I agree with that too. Notice in my previous post where I stated detonation is not an issue?


Now about your final brilliant point. Take any of these modded trucks that are being pushed to the limit and not burning all the fuel being thrown at them. You add NOS to complete the burn. What added the extra power and pressure?


I'd wager that no one added NOS to their truck first and then added a module to take advantage of it. Most of the world adds NOS when they cannot get any more power from the stack they are running. Of course I don't want to confuse you with the facts when your mind is made up. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Disapprove.gif


Thanks for the education. One other question, was the 8.48 you ran on NOS? I just want to be sure on who to call when I want my truck to run SLOWER. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Ermm.gif

Morse
02-18-2004, 10:23 PM
Since part of the topic is nitrous, what is the "safe limit" to be found so far?? If there is such a thing....

sdaver
02-18-2004, 10:27 PM
http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Approve.gif roflmaoEdited by: sdaver

JRmac
02-18-2004, 11:13 PM
SOMEONE SHINE A SPOT-LIGHT ON BMDMAX!!!...............YOU SIR ARE DIM.


HOW DOES A DIESEL REGULATE IT'S SELF?................. LET'S THINK???............ BY FUEL FLOW!!! ............. NOT AIR FLOW!!!!


THE 8.48 WAS RAN 6months ago with a QUAD215/TSTcomp power level 2 torque level 0 &amp; a http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cry.gif stock ALLI. (no NOS)


Trust me, you don't need my help going slow?..............YOU DO THAT WELL ENOUGH ON YOUR OWN.

PEANUTGRWR
02-19-2004, 12:05 AM
FLUSH THE POT ITS GETTING FULL!!!!!!!!http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif

BMDMAX
02-19-2004, 12:44 AM
JR,


You are right. I went and inhaled the entire contents of the nitrous bottle and now I see things your way. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Wacko.gif


Diesels regulate themselves by metering the fuel flow?? Holy crap, I thought the spark plugs did that. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Ermm.gif


Tell me this o' great diesel one, all things equal which truck has higher cylinder pressure:


A truck running a Quad 215 / Hot Juice stack or a truck running a Quad 215 / Hot Juice / NOS stack?


I really don't see the need to debate the whole chicken versus egg with you anymore. NOS is cheap, easy power that could never ever hurt a diesel engine. Say, when are you starting your own space program?

Diesel Power
02-19-2004, 12:51 AM
OK boys lets keep on track here. if you want to go at it please take it to the war room.


this is getting oldhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Throw Up.gif

BMDMAX
02-19-2004, 12:57 AM
Sorry DP, that was just the NOS making me talk all crazy.....http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif


For what it is worth, I do think that NOS can be a good fit in a diesel power plan when used properly. I want to get the truck as far as it can go on #2 but someday I probably will break down and run it at the track to satisfy the go fast itch. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cool.gif

JRmac
02-19-2004, 01:54 AM
BMDMAX


All things equal which has higher cylinder pressure:


1: QUAD215/HotJuice stack?


2: QUAD215/HotJuice stack &amp; NOS?


3: QUAD215/HotJuice stack &amp; Twin Turbos?


I don't think how you go about it matters much. Shove as much AIR as you want, however you want. Cylinder PSI rises as Cylinder Temps rise. It's cold here I guess I'll go warm my @$$ in front of a fan instead of a fire!http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Confused.gif


Edited by: JRmac

rpbdawg
02-19-2004, 10:09 AM
Any one that doesn't think shooting nos at idle is bad shoot me your email address. I will send youa video of what happens when the guy driving the truck doesn't listen to instructions.





Some may know about it from Michael Dixon.





rickspb1@bellsouth.net

PEANUTGRWR
02-19-2004, 06:26 PM
HEY, I KNOW MICHEAL HE'S A GRET GUY AND HAS BEEN A LURKER HERE FOR SOMETIME NOW. IM SURE HE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK UP FROM TIME TO TIME BUT IM SURE HE SEE'S HOW OTHER NEW MEMBERS ARE TREATEDhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Angry.gif TRUST ME HES INTO BIG HPhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif

JRmac
02-19-2004, 06:36 PM
rpbdawg:


Was this person adding FUEL and NOS at idle?............Now that could be BAD NEWS!Edited by: JRmac

Burner
02-20-2004, 03:45 AM
There must be more "stackers" than this? Are we afraid of Big Brother seeing something?...............


Dave, Mack'n, BADMAX, peanut, JRmac, CPMac........................how about some charts on a DYNO with what ya stacked?


Burner-------&gt; http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif

rpbdawg
02-20-2004, 09:30 AM
He normally runs a Malibu but has been driving my dad's truck. He went to the line and hitthe button a couple of times before getting going. You hear a very loud pop and pieces fly all over. ended up with a blown up inter cooler pipe, blown up RT splash shield, and a stuck injector.





Michael definitely knows what he is doing. Both trucks ran super quick last night at the track.

Mackin
02-20-2004, 09:43 AM
Send me the vid please ....


stnls188@aol.com





Mac http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Approve.gif

BMDMAX
02-20-2004, 09:57 AM
I can host the video of the NOS kaboom for you if you like.


Here is my dyno chart of the Quad 215 and Hot Juice Attitude (145) stack:


http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/uploads/75C_525Dyno.gif

Bronco
02-20-2004, 10:11 AM
I stacked a Stinger and a 6-gun. It added 567lb/TQ!


(ON Paper)http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clown.gif


I chimed in because of all the N2O talk. It is very interesting to me. I would like to explain how N2O works on a gas motor and you pro's can tell me how it works on a diesel. Maybe the same. Maybe opposite?


A gasoline motor needs to run a 14-15:1 air/fuel ratio. This will produce the best economy/power balance. If you want a little more power you can run an 12-13:1 air fuel ratio and if you want better fuel economy you can run an 16-17:1 air/fuel ratio. 10:1 is very rich and will hurt power and wash clyinders. 18:1 is very lean and will detonate and melt pistons.


N20 adds a molecule that consist of 2 parts nitrogen and one part oxygen. At approx. 570 degrees F the N20 will separate into nitrogen and oxygen.


At this point you must add more (gasoline) to maintain the desired air/fuel ratio of 13:1. If you do not add extra gasoline (via fuel solenoid) you would only be adding extra oxygen. The extra oxygen alone, would cause your air/fuel ratio to climb to 18:1. This is extremely lean and will detonate and melt piston tops and melt spark plugs. Adding N2O and gasoline in the correct ratios will not increase temperatures. It will increase clynder pressure and power output. In correct ratios the only limiting factor becomes the bottom end.


Now in regards to a diesel. This is where it becomes foggy to me. I have been told diesels are the opposite of gassers. Rich air/fuel ratio is hotter and lean air/fuel is cooler? That would be the opposite of a gasser. If I am understanding this correctly, basically running a power module is already adding more fuel, creating a rich or hot condition. Turbo boost combats this to an extent by adding more boost/air.


N2O would add oxygen and help bring a power module back into a more correct air/fuel ratio. Adding N2O would also COOL a diesel engine.


Assuming a correct air/fuel ratio is maintained ,then the only limiting factor would be the strength of the bottom end.


Would it not be wise to have a program specifically designed for use with a predetermined amount of N2O?


These are only my assumptions in regards to diesel and N2O.


Thanks,


Pimpless in ColoradoEdited by: Bronco

Michigana_Joe
02-20-2004, 10:13 AM
BMDMAX: Very nice drug-free run. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif

BMDMAX
02-20-2004, 10:26 AM
Thanks Joe!

rpbdawg
02-20-2004, 10:35 AM
As soon as I get home and can compress the video I will send it out and to BMDMAX to host.

Morse
02-20-2004, 02:10 PM
Went to the track last night for the first time since taking off the lift.. I lowered the torsion bars seven turns each and it seemed to do well.. Ran a 13.73 @ 99.. That's with a predator and juice attitude.. Ran a 14.03 @ 100 in 2wd.. Is that pretty common for this stack??


Just has a body lift with 305-70-16's now..

a64pilot
02-20-2004, 02:38 PM
Bronco, thank you for calling it what it is, N20. Not NOS, God you people don't pronounce it NOZ do you?

Bronco
02-20-2004, 03:07 PM
NOS is just a brand name. Nitrous Oxide Systems. 2 parts nitrogen 1 part oxygen.


N2 O


They already new that!


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Please don't chew my arce for posting in the big boys thread!


Pimpless in Colorado

BMDMAX
02-20-2004, 03:27 PM
YO YO YO, Dat NAWZ gotz mad powaz YO! http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Ermm.gif

rpbdawg
02-20-2004, 06:10 PM
Here is the link to the video I was talking about thanks to BMDMAX.


Duramax Kaboomhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cry.gif


http://d267292.u27.infinology.net/Download.html.htmlEdited by: rpbdawg

socaldmax
02-20-2004, 06:53 PM
Ouch!





So that's how one turns a Duramax into a Powersmoke!