Trucks back on the road, running nice,, but i swear it doesnt look the same as it went in.. First of all it has this long hose that goes from one side of the back of the block to the other.
I guess thats the 120.00 hose they where talking about??
it has this knob thing on top of it, i think its a air care thing.. I definatly cant put the plastic trubo cover back on it wont fit over the hose.. looks strange:cool: .. found out this shop speicialises in cummins diesels. they are a bit different then the 6.5 from what i seen. but glad to be back, still some minor things to do, electrical is still acting wierd.. its the 3 sensors that are on the top of the drivers side head. they where full of water,makin all sorts of funky things happen..
but glow plugs are working and running sweeeeeet..:ro) going to snow here soon . Its halfway down the moutain and blackcomb just opened for the season.... il take a pic of it and you can see what they did.. wish i had a before pic..

he still insisits on another new battery as well, I figured your suppose to replace both of them. guess i was right.. dam!! $$

A tranny check. and hasnt gave me the final bill yet.. when i left the shop tonight the brakes felt like they where coming apart.. sticky like. kinda freaky.. they where just done recently as well...what cause that just sitting too long?

Glad you got your truck back!!! :clap: Good luck on making the shop make good on what they said they would do. :snipersmi

I replaced one of my batteries instead of both a couple of years ago and within a month, I had to replace both of them. :wtf1: Go to Walmart. They replaced my new one no problem, and I believe they are under $100.00. Late last winter it was getting sluggish to crank, took back to Wally World and they replaced both of them this time at no charge. Just my .02.:beerchug:

really lucky you,, there must be a 5 yr warrenty on them then,
I just checked under my hood and there is another new battery, I guess i bought another, nice of him to tell me i just spent another 160,00 $$
they are Interstate. I seen he had a wall of them there, hope its a good battery for that price. they put the covers on the wrong side thats why they had to make a hose from one side to the other...:cool: no wonder they couldnt find that hose....

so you have the cdr (tuna can) on the drivers side of the engine with a hose going all the way to the turbo

yes, should I make them put it back the right way? is that hose going to heat up going across manifold like that?
UH I think theyd be pissed if i told them that it wasnt right... or really embarrased......):h

Opps no the little can is on the passenger side beside the turbo with a long hose to the drivers side...

hey jenn. make them put it right and at their cost. i'm not sure if my engine setup is the same as yours. i don't have the plastic turbo cover anymore. keeps the heat in. i can send you a pic of my engine so they could see what it should look like done properly. as far as i know my setup is stock minus the cover. ED

I use to sell Interstate batteries. Not very good. They won't last the rated period and the warranty is pro-rated. In other words, they last a year, the pro-rated warranty covers say half the cost and you fork out the rest. Take them back for credit, flat tell them you didn't O.K. the replacement.
Brakes should clear up from rust in a short period of time. Still acts up after a week have it looked at.

I've bought a few batterys from Costco, and they carry a 100month warrentee, I believe the most expensive battery they carry is like 80$ Canadian. I've had one in my toyota 4Runner for the last 5yrs with over 125,000kms of City driving on it, the good thing about Costco is if they sell it they warrenty it with no hassels!
As I understand it there ore only a couple of battery manufacturers out there and all they do is stick on a different label.

Opps no the little can is on the passenger side beside the turbo with a long hose to the drivers side...

Somethings not right here? Does the hose off the tuna can go to the drivers side and if so where does it hook up?
It should go to the air inlet between the turbo and the filter box?

I sell Interstate batteries also. In six years I have only warrentied one. I put 2 in my Dad's Powerstroke 3 years ago and they are still starting fine. I've had issues with Exide batteries. And in fact when I still had my suburban that Interstate battery was in there for six yearsand it was only a 60 month battery.

sorry I was wrong again,:o:

The can is on the drivers side comes out of the valve cover.

took it for a long drive.. ahhhh you know that feeling..:)
have to be careful not to speed, though,, easy to do in that truck...:cool: :badidea: i cant afford any more tickets...brakes are still being clunky. hope that goes away on its own. electrical is jumpy, meanin the service engine soon comes on, the emergency brake light. ghosts in the electrical i guess, also a wierd shuffling noise like water when you round a corner?

Tuna can goes on the passenger side next to turbo....unless the flywheel is in the front. ;)

Can you post a pix, I gonna see the handy work they did on yours.

I am no pro but if the hose that I took off and suddenly did not fit then that means I put something together wrong. They did not bother to figure out what they did wrong, they just fixed it by making you buy more parts that you did not need.

Jenn, I doubt the CDR being mounted on the drivers side will do anything. I vent mine out to under the truck as I can't see the point of it going back into the intake side of the motor.
If thats the only thing they did wrong on this job, leave it alone.

Sounds like they put the valve covers on the wrong sides and then came up with a fix. Not a real big deal. At one time I thought about using two passenger side valve covers and two cdr valves for better crank case ventilation. As for Interstate batteries, they are good batteries, they make the Die Hard and many more, but the price seems a bit steep, my cost (dealer) for a megatron is about 80.00 U.S. Walmart has a good warranty as does Costco for their batteries. Interstate only warranties their batteries for 1/2 the time stated when used in a diesel application.

Good to see the difference of opinion on the batteries and their life span.
I know for a fact they did mess up and covered it up like i never knew better..
just like slipping in the battery and telling me i need one for the other side, yet he'd already put it in ahead of time..
Id like to have it back now , I dont want them to take it and add any more new parts.
Should i just tell him to give me the bill and let me take it .. or what. they want it back to do some more stuff to the tranny, he insistes it shouldnt go with out that. and fill up th ac...
also the way the brakes are acting id think hed be more interested if they worked proper. wouldnt ya think..
i did take some pics but there on a disp cam, i ll take it in and get it developed in the morning, pic will be a day or so.unless i can get my web cam out there some how..???:rolleyes: fill up was 75.00 but still needed more.. whoaaaaaaa broke me again..dam...:rolleyes:
seen a cute guy with a 1500 checking my diesel out...lol :p:

Valve covers need to be put back right. Only problem there is they will probably bend all the lines to do it which ain't right either. Looks like the shop don't know what they are doing. Dump the batteries back on them for credit, get the brakes checked somewhere else. The ac needs to be recharged with a new dryer and maybe a new orifice tube, internal corrosion can occur if you wait till spring.. Just change the fluid in the trans yourself. Do it the easy way. Take a cooler line off, crank the engine and let the trans pump it out. When you see bubbles add more fluid and repeat. System is now flushed, add fluid to proper level.

Has he yet to tell you why the trans needs work? I still stand by my previous opinion, get it the HE!! out of there and go somewhere else. Get your batteries back to while your at it, you can do better I'm sure.

I will go in tommarow and ask him to tally up the bill todate, then i will look at the cost of the batteries, I will also make a deal with him, to either take them out or give them to me for cost, not his either,
I can price out Interstate batteries and take it to him..
I need the ac put in but if I take it back they will put it aside and make me wait another week to get it out. they are so slow, they get busy with other stuff. If i make switch the valve covers over it will take another week yet.. I really want it out of there, i will look at the trany myself, tell him no tranny works,, he does look at me and says It needs to be done!!!.. kinda intimidating really..
One mechanic says he never changed the pulley, the owner says he did, how do i know if the pulley is new? how much are these,These are spring loaded and cant be reset again is that correct??
ill guess i ll find out when i get the bill.
I also want to phone RIFCO and see if they can give me less of a credit so he cant take advantage of that either...

If i had time to stay and make sure it was done right and that day, Id sit and wait for it, I cant I have to work.. so i drop it off in the morning and hope its ready by the time I am out of there.

thanks for the input though, good to know whats the right way.. Censored

Are you talking about the crank pulley? Have him give you the old one. New one wouild be easy to spot. Nice and clean.

Interstate use to have a clever way of disgusing the price of a battery. The dealer would show you "his" cost. Say the battery was $85.00 he would then show you the price sheet showing you the battery cost as $75.94 and he's only making 9 bucks. Well the price sheet is rigged, his cost is the reverse of 75.94 or $49.57. They may still be doing that so be for warned. Insider info.

Yeah they are still doing that. The stock number backwards is the price they pay.

ok i was confused you moderaters changed the formation in the order of the post..lol

NO heads up or anything,, just all backwards...

yes i am talking about the crank pully , looks the same to me. Ill have to get him to show me excatly what he replaced..

my chihuahua had 4 puppies today..:) sweet some money to pay for the truck,, hehe... sled would be nice though.....

I didnt let them have the truck today, wait for pics then ill post and ill take it back after you guys tell me what to do next. SO with the ac. if theres a hole where the hose or tube went in should i stick a rag in there to keep the miosture out? or something,, getting cold here lots of condenstaion everywhere.. frost tommarow morning if not snow..

Don't say "chihuahua puppies" that loud! *SHE* will hear you and I won't be able to buy new injectors!! ;)

NICE 50 there Nvmtnlion:cool2:

theres the one I need.......):h
do you hunt with that or what do you do with it? :confused:
My oldest son just shot his first moose.:rolleyes: I guess thats a good thing.. HIm and his Uncle out there drinkin rye whiskey propably his first drink -:t celebrating the hunt, hehe...
These little puppies will bring me 600.00 each. although i have seen them higher but why get greedy, some i have seen as high as 2400.00 :eek:
I will be able to pay off my truck bill:)

That's nice you don't feel the need to make buying a chiliwoof pup like a trip to the proctologist. :) I have paid $500-$900 for ours.

That's the model 50 I have but I still haven't found my box with the digital cam and the NAS in it, so that will have to do for now.

Jenn, the only thing I shoot with it is paper and the occasional jackrabbit, just to see the spray. -:t

nice visual.........:cool:
you have chi puppy too.. thats cool they are addicting little things arnt they..

No I don't have a chihuahua puppy, I have 4..... :D

oh thats right, i rememeber seeing you holding a couple.. Aww want a another,, soooo tiny,,soo cute..lol...

I talked to Ole about the truck today as I drove him to my work.. had all his attention...I told him he put the valve covers on the wrong side, thats why they couldnt find that hose.. He said" Oh did we.. Then he thought about it for a sec. and said yea I think your right. He also said well we never took it apart so we just put it back together so that it worked..
I said i appreciate that thanks for making it run well. :p:

I also asked about the batteries. he said they where the best for this country, and hes giving me a deal on the second one..
today they are draining the tranny oil. he dosent want me to get under there..cause i am pregnant.he also says the trannys are 3 - 5,000. to replace...........cant argue too much there.:cool:

So fine let him change the oil, the filter and get it done..

Also hes refilling the Ac. and it should be mine tonight..
ill get the bill the pictures are coming today so i ll post as soon.

Oh yea, i said it was slow to turn over in the mornings, just cold ,
he thought maybe the glow plugs needed to be replaced, at 25.00 a piece X 8.
whats cheaper new block heater or glow plugs? I have no power to my block heater.

My son says "ohh this truck feels so good to have back mommy, I feel so safe.." ;)

Oh yea, i said it was slow to turn over in the mornings, just cold ,
he thought maybe the glow plugs needed to be replaced, at 25.00 a piece X 8.
whats cheaper new block heater or glow plugs? I have no power to my block heater. ;)
$25 BUCKS A PIECE, HOLY CRAP BATWOMAN! That is downright outrageous. Unless he plans on installing them for that to. Check this link, I know it's U.S. but still. And these are the best you can get for the 6.5's. He's trying to get you again it sounds like.
http://www.kennedydiesel.com/detail.cfm?ID=30
What do you mean by no power to your block heater? Is the cord bad, or is the element bad?

Here is a Canadian price: http://www.dieselservices.com/webstore/moreinfo.cfm?Product_ID=49&CFID=361714&CFTOKEN=42477885

I just went and checked the exchange rate, and at $80 U.S. for J.K.'s plugs at the current rate of just under $1.20/$1. You shouldn't pay more than $100($96 to be exact) Canadian for them, shipping is what will get you unless you have to pay a duty tax or something or nother on them. Either way I would go with the instant heats, the O.E. replacement AC 60G's are poor at best in my opinion and many others opinion.

glow plugs. 18.00 cdn..on that site.
not so far off..

did you read BC BOGGERS forum HELP.. he was charged 600.00 for all new plugs and labour... at a dealers.

they must have charged 4 hours to put it in..? 75.00 per hour..

I have no power to the cord on the block heater. thats all thats been tested..

Yeah I read BCBoggers post about the $600 for plugs and couldn't believe it. I paid all of $65 U.S. I think it was for mine, and they are instant heat WAP plugs. I could see somebody charging maybe 2 hours to do it so long as none are broke off. On your block heater, when you plug it in your saying there is no power to the element? Maybe all you need is a new end for the cord, or maybe just a break in the harness somewhere?

well you know what they say when you live in BC. bring cash!!
the price hike on everything here is crasy.. I am in retail too so I know how much we jack up the price to make a buck. but dam I am in the wrong buisness for rippen people off.. I feel sorry for people and always give a deal.. I did check the end of the plug no power is there another wayto bypass the plug to check to see if it works.. also a freind of mine said to run a heater line or something down by the rad? or inside it?
know anything about this??

To answer the question: Yes we do have to pay duty and taxes to get stuff across the border. The only way around it is to have it shipped up here as a 'gift', or to purchase US made products under the NAFTA agreement (I don't want to get into what a farce that really is:rant: )

Jenn - the most common failure with the block heater cords is the plug end of it. The wires break off in our extreme cold (maybe not so much in BC, but out here anyways).

Cut off the old end, strip the wires back and put on a new end. You can pick up a new end at 'Canadian (American) Tire' for around $3.

U have the same truck as me .. but a 1500. . Ill stop at napa or homehard ware, since the closest CT is about an hour and half from here... for a plug end . I have some sterio wiring to do too . so yuck i guess ill have to do electrical , i hate that stuff. i always get zapped...:eek: solder and shrink wrapp that too? or black tape it together? when u solder something, (i think i asked this before) but never got a reply,, am i melting the wires together with the solder stuff? refresh me please..someone..:help2:

(my tv hasnt worked since Shayne left either cause i am not sure whats wrong. so i dont bother..):iamlost:

When you soldier you are using the soldier to hold the 2 wires together. You are not actually melting the wires. The soldier melts and if you do it right it will flow between the strands of wire and when it cools it holds them together.
If you are changing the plug you probably will get a new plug that the wires screw into. No soldiering.

Hope that helps.

yea i think so, so when i solder i hold it above the wires so it drips down then right.. I think i got ya now.. thanks for clearing that void in my brain..:)

I apply heat to the opposite side of the wire that I am appling soldier to.
The wire is twisted together and the soldiering iron is against the wire and the soldier is against the wire. When the wire gets hot enough to melt the soldier it will pull the soldier through the twisted mess and make a good conection.

Hope that makes sense.

Here is a glow plug for 65 dollars for a set of 8. This is suppose to be a good stuff.

http://www.ssdieselsupply.com/product_8_Chevy_GMC_6.5_Turbo_Diesel_Glow_Plugs.ht ml

not sure if this worked but i attached a pic ofthe motor will do more later gtg

not sure if this worked but i attached a pic ofthe motor will do more later gtg

Yep, that is one handy work that does not earn an A+ but then that it is an easy mistake. I do not see this as a major problem other then the fact that you had to pay a lot of money for that hose.

k they are too big for the forum but here is another smaller size..

I didn't know you could get a 2500 series with the z71 option. Is z71 written on the codes in your glovebox?

says it right on the side of the truck..

That one looks like a 1500, maybe somebody changed the badges on the doors before you got it?

I didn't know you could get a 2500 series with the z71 option. Is z71 written on the codes in your glovebox?


my 93 2500 6.5 td has z71 emblems havent checked the rpo codes but from the looks of your motor jen i think i see a egr valve so that means its the S motor so its a 1500 but im wrong alot

Dang! so it's ok to charge an outrageous price to correct a misplaced part instead of putting it right for no additional price. This is the kind of stuff that gets me irate. very unprofessional.

my 93 2500 6.5 td has z71 emblems havent checked the rpo codes

I am by no means flaming anyone, but I am 99% sure that the only vehicles that came with the Z71 package (including stickers) was the 1500 series trucks. Some Tahoes/Yukons came with the Z71 on the RPO codes but did not come with stickers.

So Jenn - I believe you either have a Z71 1500 or a 4x4 2500 not a Z71 2500 (not that it really matters anyways)

Rex - I think someone must have put the 'Z' stickers on before you got the truck (again not that it matters)

The truth is in the RPO codes in the glovebox. I just don't think that Z71 was a 3/4 ton option from GM.

I didn't think so either.

wtf??? what are u guys talking about theres three just like it in town here.. we all must have 1500 then? :p: not that it matters right....lol

Oh yea someone said they are hard to get.. . anyways, i made it home and it wont start again.. It was at the shop all day today. started slow this morning, and got worse each time, till i got home and tried it , It was dead, I noticed the battery gauge was down to 10... so i am dead again but i got home..:) whew...

What does your glovebox code say? Z71 was not an option for 3/4 ton trucks.;)

http://www.synthetic-oil.com/images/z71-z.jpg

lol,ok ill take your challange.. I am not sure what it is for real just what it says all over it, and that truck was made for hauling 5 th wheel. It came from Alberta, I know it has a 6.5 cause weve been through this.. as for the axel wieght i think it was 22,000. or 19.000.. it was a puller, adnd has been painted before... so you solve the mystery....ill get the info i can, four actually of my freinds have one of those trucks, same year, same rear end.. thats all i know.. I know the manifolds a F too because weve been through this too...

The intake in the pic you posted is an 'S' as indicated by the EGR valve on the top of it. Maybe you actually have a 1500 with 2500 decals???

The reason I brought up the Z71 thing is that I have seen a lot of people get ripped off by dealers trying to pass off their 4x4s as Zs when in fact they are not. I am not sure why, but people sure like to own a Z more than a plain old 4x4. I just hope you didn't get taken when you bought it.

one of them was a 6.2 intake .. whered you see that?

The pics you posted at 6:21 pm and 6:25 pm in this post both clearly show an EGR valve on the top of your intake manifold. The EGR valve is the 'saucer' shaped thing on the top of the engine.

oh yea that thing the egr..on top wasnt there before either there was a cover for that.. see now i wish i had a before pic..

So what you are saying is that the intake that shop 'a' wrecked was replaced with an 's' intake with a non-functioning EGR valve?

If that is the case I would be pretty upset.

EDIT - When you say 'cover' are you talking about the 'turbo power' cover or are you saying that there was never an EGR valve on the previous engine? I can't see in your pictures if you have an EGR solenoid or not - that humongous PCV hose is in the way ...lol

What is the 8th digit of your vin number? If they put the wrong intake on it I would be pissed. Looks like you may need an attorney to handle your case in small claims court now. Looks both shops have taken you for a ride. Like I said before, FIND ANOTHER SHOP TO DO YOUR WORK.

i will put up two one is the 6.2 and then my broken 6.5...ok

there in progress what ever that means..
should io go plug in the truck or what its dead out there..

Dead? Does it crank? If not I would put the battery charger on them.

While you are out there could you check the decal in the glovebox for the 'z71' code and the 8th digit in the VIN?...please?

k i seen some decals they are zdk z62 z03 zy1 i am not sure where i should be looking for z71 , i hope it helps plugin it in,

You didn't find Z71 because I am afraid your truck is not a Z71. Someone just put the sticker on it to try and increase its value a bit.

The second pic looks like an 's' intake.

it is a 'S'. so what does that mean? its got a slow intake right..? does it matter?

S engines are generally found in 1/2 ton trucks. It means that they have an EGR system which robs some hp.

It does have the S intake on your truck right now.

It does not matter much. We were all under the impression that your truck was an 'F' truck in which case, having the 'S' intake installed would be the shop's mistake.

not that it matters, you can check your driver's door on GVRW Rating. ):h

Yeah, your truck is supposed to have the EGR valve on it. It was there before unless somebody else took it off before you. Where does your voltmeter run at while your running down the road?

yea there was something shady about that truck all a long, it did come from alberta and was reg, over seas.. hmmm.. the wireing is a night mere too, I thought it was stolen when we picked it out of the parking lot in surrey.. one set of keys.. yupe,, it has remote start too but never came with the remote........shady eh..

oh yea,, i meant 19 ' not 19,000.. my bad..lollll ):h

the voltage was just above 9..tonight..red lining

Sounds like you have a good old cs-130 alternator failure. Not very uncommon with a cs-130 that has sat for any period of time.

door way reading reads 7200/3260

yea there was something shady about that truck all a long, it did come from alberta and was reg, over seas.. hmmm.. the wireing is a night mere too, I thought it was stolen when we picked it out of the parking lot in surrey.. one set of keys.. yupe,, it has remote start too but never came with the remote........shady eh..

don't be slagging surrey. we are the car theft capital of the north america. on a sidenote my camaro had remote start and when i traded for the truck. it only came with one remote and one key. so i told them when they came up with a spare set i would give them spare remotes and keys. duh the buggers. here is where it got funny. i ran into the camaro owner on the ferry. can you imagine his surprise when i told him i had keys to his car and then proved it. i remote started his engine. and cycled the door locks. he was freaked. then i get a call from the dealership. told them the keys are mine and get me a spare set or i keep them. i now have a spare remote and key. ed

what would make the difference between the 2500 and the 1500 ? what make them think mine is now a 1500? confused? how do I tell now, I said it was an 'F" intake cause that whats the mech said it was, way back when we where talking about that.. have to search some archives.. he said it was hard to get.. sorry for misleading.. i am blonde.. come on now!!! cant expect me to be perfect...lol sometimes it shows..

Ahh good old Surrey counciler..lol i wont say anymore..;)

Jenn I feel for your plight your are getting a serious run around, do the VIN's on the door sticker match the one on the metal dashboard plate lower edge of drivers side dash corner viewed through windshield, if so what is 8th letter of that Vin # S or F.

if S it is supposed to have a EGR intake, that said there also some F trucks with EGR (which are rare) run through RPO code list in FAQ and see what options listed there match your trucks glove box sticker, also should be a VIN there that matches the other 2. The RPOs will help us figure out just what your truck is supposed to be, K2500 truck will have heavier duty brakes, and probably lower rear end gearing than a K1500 which we suspect is what you have from decals.

I'd collect all my belongings, have them return to you all the bad parts, and get out of there ASAP, slow crank now means it needs new glows ??? not even related in cranking cycle, sounds like the batts they sold you are bad, or you have some serious shorting issues draining the batteries, or an acessory powered all nite. Could also be bad batt cables & gnds, bad batts will kill an alternator.

I have to wait till morning cause its dark and there bears out there right now.. ill go through all the numbers then.. model # is k20753? does that help? now look i am all italic. gotta go.. thanks ill get it fgured out, or you guys will..makes no difference to me, shes still my baby, be nice to know excatly what it is though eh..i have more pic of the motor and stuff.. different angles..

I have one more pic to share tonight..this is one of the babies. 1 day old...same size as the baby in my tummy right now.

Jenn,

7200 number on door jam usually relates to light duty 3/4 ton and should have egr/ S engine. F engines usually have 8600 gvw or higher gvw. Does your truck have six lug wheels? If so it is a light duty 3/4 ton. Hope this helps.

Does your truck have six lug wheels?

It must - it has alloy wheels. This is the reason that I first thought it was a 1500 with 2500 doors. She mentioned it had a new paint job which might indicate why the decals are wrong.

As I said - it is either a 2500 4x4 (light duty of course) or it is a 1500 4x4 (it is not a Z71 since that code is not in her glove box). I am leaning towards it being a light duty 2500 4x4.

EDIT - Jenn - What is your 6th digit in the VIN number? If it is 1 it is a 1500, if it a 2 it is a 2500, if it is a 4 it is a 1500 HD.

Here is a breakdown: http://www.angelfire.com/ca/TORONTO/VIN/chevrolet.html

(VIN deleted at Jenn's request by TD) is my vin.. all three match plus my insurance papers.... hope this answers your questions,, Funny Chris you are the only one ever to question the Z71 i know theres a black one here for sure, maybe its a 1500.....Ill have to take a closer look.
Now i feel phoney......but its still a good truck or was anyhow..

and it still wont start this morning, even with battery charger on it all night.. If I never had a back up truck I think i would start to get mad..

turbin Doc you say to get it out of there but its not even running how I am suppose to get it out????? They have to make it run.. SO i guess this truck is getting either new glow plugs today or a new altinator..
they are also looking for a clutch for my a/c they filled it yesterday and it held...they are going to find a used one. mine was full of Water.......

i cant see the wheels lugs. sorry i cant hekp ya.. J

Jenn - your truck is a 2500 4x4. It must be light duty because of the 's' in the vin and the 6 lug axles.

Sorry to say that it is not a Z71. I hope that that was not a selling point for that particular truck.

hey thats a cool site ... here is the stats..

GVWR 7,000-8,000 lbs
4x4 full size P.U.
3/4 ton 2500
extended cab
8cyl 6.5 L 292.c.i.d
made in Ontario BC

It was painted , when i am not sure where is the color code on it? to say the original color?

Jenn,

Don't believe the hype, the 6 Lug 2500 is FINE. Modify the EGR so it sits there quietly unused and just enjoy it!

Chris , thats fine with me. i dont really care one way or the other. now ill have to pull the phoney stickers off, thats all..
Selling point.. well IF there not smart enough to know the difference,, does it really matter?
It wont make the value any more or less anyhow.
needs new paint anyhow,, ill get those takin off and get the proper 4X4 on there.:) eventually... or ill get n my plate.. Z71 PNY or ...WNB):h

and it still wont start this morning, even with battery charger on it all night.. If I never had a back up truck I think i would start to get mad..

turbin Doc you say to get it out of there but its not even running how I am suppose to get it out????? They have to make it run.. SO i guess this truck is getting either new glow plugs today or a new altinator..
they are also looking for a clutch for my a/c they filled it yesterday and it held...they are going to find a used one. mine was full of Water.......

i cant see the wheels lugs. sorry i cant hekp ya.. J
When you say it won't start, do you mean the engine won't turn over at all, is slow to turn over, or it turns over and won't run? If it turns over and won't run then you probably need glow plugs. If it won't turn over at all or turns over slowly then your batterys may be dead or you could have a bad starter. Try turning the headlights on and starting, do the headlights go out? If so then the batterys are dead, if you put a trickle charger on it overnight then it will take a week probably to charge the batterys in cool temps and dual batterys. Most likely the alternator went south for the winter without you(not uncommon with a cs-130, fortunately very easy to change), and you ran the batterys dead driving it. If the headlights are bright and it won't turn over then your starter went south and didn't bring you along with it. And I am trying to understand how the AC clutch could be full of water? It is just an electromagnetic coil and a sprung friction clutch. If it is all ruted up they can just clean it up, why replace it if it only needs cleaned. Like Turbine doc, myself and others have said, get it the HE!! out of his shop. He is now making a career out of just your truck.

Selling point.. well IF there not smart enough to know the difference,, does it really matter?


That is what I have a problem with. I find it in bad taste for dealerships (or individuals) to take advantage of people who do not know any better. I am not sure about prices in BC, but here is Sask. a Z71 will get a few $$ more than a 'plain old' 4x4. Any dealer not disclosing whether the truck is a clone or not (if they themselves know) is misleading the customer.

I would be upset if I were to buy a chevelle SS portrayed as an SS just because it has the emblems only to later find out that it is just a 'plain old' chevelle. :rant:

Like Turbine doc, myself and others have said, get it the HE!! out of his shop. He is now making a career out of just your truck.

Does the owner have kids? He may be looking at some ortodontist work comming up in the near future and he sees you as the meal ticket.

Take an online course in diesel repair while you are on maternity leave then you can do it yourself and even homeschool your unborn while you learn.:lol:

hey , i got it going. I turned it over earlier and it was dead.. then i retried before work and it slowly started..tehn would fire then die.. again and again for the third time it stayed going.. the voltage meter was at 9 then jumped to 14. sits at 10-11. doesnt charge..
left it at the shop. his call on the altenator,what ever get the little stuff done, I am propably to the cost of a new rebuilt about now...i pleded
said i cant afford this expense ..

That hose that goes across the back from the tuna can..can i put something to go under the engine to get rid of it?

The CDR or tuna can keeps your engine from leaking like a seive. Don't get rid of it!!

i'm thinking bad battery connections. i tightened up the pos cables on the one battery. apparently they weren't tight cause it would start out at 14 volts and when the engine warmed up the volts dropped. even left me dead on the road once. come home and take the wife to jump start me. nothing. move a cable and lites come on. tightened the crap out of the cable and she fired up without a jump. loose connections will do funny things. electricity by nature will create heat. and when the current is turned off and on repeatedly it only serves that connections need to be tight. check and see if you can move the battery cables. if you can it is not tight enuf. ED

well if it was bad battery connections, i am getting a new altinator.. he going to put it in this afternoon........:cool: ,
does anyone have a pic of the clutch on a a/c..
I want to know what it looks like,

Anybody close to Jenn, she needs help bad,

Jenn for your own good get that truck out of that rip-off shop ASAP

"Take an online course in diesel repair while you are on maternity leave then you can do it yourself and even homeschool your unborn while you learn.:lol:"

who said i was going on materninty leave? :cool: this is my online course . I am learning...:p:

Babe will be well brought up my way,. born with a wrench... a needle and thread... cooking utensils...babys toy box will be full of learning tools.

ill be looking at this diesel in a few years like i look at my 350 ( which fired right up this morning.)... and know it inside out.. then theyll come up with some other crasy engine... then i ll start again. probably be a gramma and sit under the hood... "hand me that wrench sonny"..:lol:

Anybody close to Jenn, she needs help bad,

Jenn for your own good get that truck out of that rip-off shop ASAP

i'm somewhat close. some 150 miles close. i wish i had time. alternator is 180.00 at napa. labor to swap it out is 5 minutes. all you need is a 1/2 inch wrench and a 3/8 ratchet. it's that easy. did he check the alternator to see if it's bad. or is he guessing. personally if you are having electric gremlins you should take it to an auto electric shop. they have the facilities to do the work right. general consensus is this new mechanic is probably a poker playing bud of the other mechanic. they probably apprenticed under the same guy.

ok to the closest guy .. you gotta be good looking. nice butt if your looking under my hood. know excatly what your doing. know how to cut firewood. cook and clean up wouldnt hurt to know abit about carpentry too.. il give ya supper, warm place to sleep provided you light the fire.. lol..... i could go on...:p: ......not mocking you TD thanks for the effort..

I fit that bill.



Except for being close.

And I am married.

well the smart women hang on to that......or get it right the first time. but thanks anyhow skynut..:p:

Want to do the shade tree check on your alternator? Crank it up and see if a screw driver blade will try and stick to the bearing on the back of the alternator. Tries to stick means it's charging. Water should not hurt a airconditioner clutch. They are exposed to water all the time.

Check the battery terminals like others have said.

Well i just got the truck back he gave me the final bill.. wanted me to sign all this stuff . but i never, yet!! and I got my truck outta there..

heres the last bill :deal:

glow plug relay 87.30
sec. battery 157.95
serpntine belt tensioner.. 150.00 ( he said he threw it out) the old one i couldnt get it.
altenator 216.00 he wouldnt let me have the old one, he said he needs it for the core charge and it wasnt included in the bill.
or id have to pay 80 .00 to have it back
the batteries are gone, he returned them somewhere?
charged me twice for a serpintine belt.. one was for 61.44 and the other was for 71.22..


my a./c was Not charged and he will charge me extra to do it..

plus another 306,oo in labour..

so it came to another 1175.00... pretty good money for two days work..
DOnt worry its NOT going back to that shop.. :shake: done dealing with him..

DOnt worry its NOT going back to that shop.. :shake: done dealing with him..
Gonna hold you to that one, we all have been telling you to get it out of there for awhile now. I realize that things kept happening, but your at the point now where a tow bill to another shop would be worth it to not take the beating that he is giving you. I hope you stick to what you said, I hate seeing somebody go through uneccesary stress and grief. Like you said you have another vehicle, so take your time and find a GOOD reputable shop to take it back to. Not just somebody who can smile real good. Not trying to be mean, just tring to help you get your truck fixed right THE FIRST TIME.

I know the biggest mistake was to give him 4500.00 cash , i was short 600.00 but had it in my hand through a friend. He instisted i take the truck and try it out, then all the little crap happened. i was basicaly stuck taking it back to him,
If I held back the 1800 that he sent out to this RIFCO loan too i would have been ok'd for just that, instead i came up with the 1800 on my own and had this credit which he was more ten happy to jack it up, the loan is maxed he wants to know how i will pay by friday.
It was nice of him to tell me that he was leaving for two weeks on a holiday on friday..:cool: but I have my truck i never signed anything.. just like the other shop, if they had kept my truck i would have had to pay him before i got it out.. so give me a couple days ill come up with something.. Jenn

Well i just got the truck back he gave me the final bill.. wanted me to sign all this stuff . but i never, yet!!
sec. battery 157.95
serpntine belt tensioner.. 150.00 ( he said he threw it out) the old one i couldnt get it.
altenator 216.00 he wouldnt let me have the old one, he said he needs it for the core charge and it wasnt included in the bill.
or id have to pay 80 .00 to have it back.

hi jenn, i am going to send you copies of bills i have. one is for an alternator. from lordco, the other is for a battery from canadian tire. i suggest you print out the copies to show him . and tell him to get stuffed on the belt tensioner. ed

What do you mean get stuffed on the tensor..I needed it didnt I?
I can tell him that but it wont do me anygood...I could tell him alot of things but I wont.....:p: This is a huge lesson for me on how they can get u up the a$$ :Moon:, hold you there till you say uncle and make you pay...........but the on the other hand I am the monkey and I have them by the balls cause i got me truck at home.......):h whew,tg for that


if you want to edit that guys..lol go for it,, my thought for the moment. Jenn

Jenn,

I don't know if it works this way in Canada, but locally our TV news crews, will help out, your story is made for one of our "Channel 13 On Your Side Stories".

Young Pregnant (Blonde :lol: couldn't resist need to inject some humor to a sad story) single mom, gets hosed by an unscrupulious auto repair shop, Oh Yeah "Lead Story News at 6 !!! see how we helped right an injustice"; if ever I heard one, hit him up with that and see if he becomes more ameniable. If not follow through.

Jenn,

I don't know if it works this way in Canada, but locally our TV news crews, will help out, your story is made for one of our "Channel 13 On Your Side Stories".


Yea, in Cleveland its the "I Team with Carl Monday" on your side. I have patient's pull that one out on me quite frequently. Thankfully we actually do treat people pretty well, but man I do wonder how I would react it he was ever chasing me thru the parking lot tapping on my driver's door window with that microphone.....:mad:

Jenn, based on your story, TD's suggestion is not a bad one; business owners are scared to heck of this type of journalism.

:muahaha::thankyou2 :thankyou2 :thankyou2


:driver: I should write a book eh........ become famous for getting so shaffted...

Baby companys will want to help me out,, I'll do promotions...theyll give me a house. full baby ensemble, years free diapers..tuition fees....
oh yea i can see it all now..
hmmm i could start teaching kids mechanics right from the womb.. possibiliities are endless..you made me laugh so hard my side hurts...:lol: but deffinatly got my imagination going strong.....:rolleyes: good thinkin TD...

Jenn,

I can see it now, new TV series rather than come fix your poor old dilapidated house Ty & the neighbors chip in in fix your vehicle or maybe, call M-TV "Pimp my Ride"

man I must seem so pittiful to you guys.....lmao......... call them up lets give it a shot.....both of them.:D

Only i dont own this home i just rent but my carpets are getting dirty.. (should have kept my babies dad around for another week so he coulda finished the floor)...):h

man I must seem so pittiful to you guys.....lmao........

Uhm, no...:nono:

Uhm, no...:nono:

No Jenn just empathy, where I come from and how I was rasied, we don't treat our wimin the way you been treated; I only wish I could do more for you than share some humor.

umm ok,,:rolleyes: well thats good you where raised good.. see it takes a good momma to raise a good man....;)
you guys really only know what i have told you. I have got lots of other stuff going on............this is truck related....lol
I have a question though about ticking in the dash? Sometimes It goes tick tick and my dash light flashes.? any hints to check in the morning..?

Jenn start a new thread for a new problem about a gazillon in this one

I am sorry everyone gets carried away,....I am so bad, to me this is the same day...ill look for it before i start one...:)