: CAT Filter Installation Question
56Nomad 02-07-2004, 07:21 PM For grins and giggles, I getting ready to take off my Racor set up and putting
in a CAT set up on the frame. I machined out the cast CAT base and all fitting
openings to 23/64 th's to provide the maximum opening. I believe the I/D of our
fuel lines is 26/64th's.
Question......... Do I use any teflon compound on the threads of the fittings with
the O-Rings that marry to the CAT base? Also, how much torque are you applying
at these O-ring fittings?
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Big Red Max 02-07-2004, 07:42 PM I did not put teflon on mine and hasnt leaked in 15000 miles
I put a little lube on the o-rings and got it snug, probably 15-20 FTlbs.Edited by: Big Red Max
56Nomad 02-07-2004, 08:15 PM Big Red Max.......
I don't think you'd see a leak since have a vacuum
system. If nothing burbs, yep no leaks. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Approve.gif
OK I'll bite. Why are you changing filter setups?
56Nomad 02-07-2004, 11:26 PM I'm retired with lots of time on my hands........ plus I like to tinker
on my truck http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif
I actually like the Racor better, with the clear fuel bowl and
if I lived in cold weather it would definitely stay on because
of the heater option.
But here in the Santa Cruz, CA area...... no one will order me a
Racor filter http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Thumbs Down.gif There are no vendors locally for Racor. We do
have Marine West, but the salesman could not help me in
ordering the R60S. The Cat dealer is a couple of miles away
and the 1R-0750 is well stocked, so that's why I'm switching.
Ray403Dmax 02-08-2004, 12:03 AM I know the pipe thread sealant question has it been briefly discussed before, but I've never heard CAT's view on it. Are there any install instructions?
srode 02-08-2004, 05:41 AM Well, your's looks different than mine (straight vs 90 on mine and no on/off valve), but to your point, the instructions say to put it on the brass hose fitting, threaded side. I'll do that with mine, but there's an O-ring for that to seat against too, so don't think it should be needed.
04wanabemax 02-08-2004, 07:35 AM someone on this site had said not to use teflon tape, and to use the paste, as the (tape will damage the injection system if it gets in it). Just a messenger of info. Fran
jbplock 02-08-2004, 09:56 AM someone on this site had said not to use teflon tape, and to use the paste, as the (tape will damage the injection system if it gets in it). Just a messenger of info.** Fran
In addition to the contamination problem Fran pointed out, from what I've read Teflon tape is also not recommended for applications where vibration is present - its good for static conditions (like domestic plumbing) but not on a moving/vibrating machine.Edited by: jbplock
Big Red Max 02-08-2004, 11:49 AM [QUOTE=56Nomad]Big Red Max.......
I don't think you'd see a leak since have a vacuum
system. If nothing burbs, yep no leaks. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Approve.gif [/QUOTE
It will leak when the truck is not running. I had a compression fitting that did not seal properly and leaked. The strange thing is I never had a problem with air in the line the 400miles I drove with the leak. There was never any air present at either filter when I checked before fixing the leak. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Confused.gif
Frank Blum 02-08-2004, 01:44 PM Nomad, Your picture shows the correct way as far as I can see. There is nothing wrong with Teflon tape on any installation. Teflon tape and any other sealer is only a problem when you disassemble a system. It is a common practice to use it on stainless hydraulic systems both mobile and stationary. A lot depends on the maintenance supervisor in each location. Never put any sealer on the first thread or two. All sealers will ball up when you disassemble a system and the remainder should be wire brushed off. Nice looking set up. Later! Frank
Diesel Power 02-08-2004, 01:54 PM FYI - w/ o-ring boss connectors pipe dope/teflon tape is not required. that's from the old man and the hydraulic store plus my neighbor that works for CAT..
Frank Blum 02-08-2004, 03:06 PM Didn't mean to imply sealer went on the "0" connections, only on the tapered treads. Later! Frank http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Approve.gif
GMCSLEHD 02-08-2004, 06:57 PM 56NOMAD,
Use RectorSeal #5. Available at Home Depot, etc...
Josh
Victory Red 02-09-2004, 07:24 PM I didn't use any sealer when I went with the cat head. Brass is a very soft metal, when you use fittings that are tapered and mate in a brass material they will actually conform to each other as they are tightened. Now I'm not saying it wouldn't have it's benefit of a just in case situation, but shouldn't really be needed.
Now with my new permacool head I used Loctite thread sealer(white tube and can't remember the number).
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