I installed my intake system today.


I must say, Im not too impressed with a few of the design issues of the AFE Stage 2 system.


1. Who was in charge of R&D? Did they not fit this thing before putting it on the market? ~The intake pipe is about an inch too long! I had to damn near bend the filter housing in half to pipe it all up. I had to install the filter on the pipe in the box before hooking it up to the turbo intake because the filter wouldnt even fit in the box with it piped up. Now, the box wall is not straight but pushed inward and the rubber isolation mount is impossible to use. The end of the air filter is about 1/2" from the fender wall. -Seems like poor prototype work to me.


2. The intake pipe itself has a crummy paint job finish


3. The intake pipe is metal. I drove it for 25 miles and checked connections etc. and noticed the pipe is frickin' hot http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Confused.gif


Do you guys think the heat absorbtion into the intake air would affect combustion quality? I know colder air is denser and motors run better when its cold ~this is very apparent in boats so I wonder....

I will add however;


The turbo sound is sweet!


And I think responsiveness has improved, but not knock your sox off kinda change. I put this on mostly in hopes of lower EGTs a bit more..

I think I'm going to buy Stage 1, so I dont have to worry about the way it fits.

I wouldn't recommend the stage 1, there are MUCH nicer airboxes out there than the AFE. Check out the BD X-Intake if you're looking at the airbox/filter only and no tube. It's a way bigger airbox for one thing, bigger filter, and its polished stainless steel finish looks great.

set up a buddys afe the other night, it took a waping 10 minutes or so. it is my second time but it fits tight, and i do not feel that the pipe temperture will do much, due to the high volume of air that is going threw it, looks good and would recomend it, makes a truck much more responsive with a stack, but do have a bit more turbo whinehttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cool.gif

The fit is tight no doubt ....I was able taking my time,remove and replace the element without and damage to the element .... Now I have had mine off two or three times so I have had alot of practice .... I have complained myself of the fit in the past ...


The heat is a non facter unless the air flowing thru was to sit and absorb ....


IMO the cons out way the pros untill something better comes down the pipe ....





Mac http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Wink.gif

I went with the AFE for the Proguard 7 or whatever it is that supposed to filter better than K&N.


Im thinking I should have stuck with my tried and true K&N now though.


The wall of the box that the tube goes into is pushed back a couple inches and there's no way I can get the element in and out without disconnecting the tube http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Disapprove.gif


Anyone want to buy a 2 day old AFE Stage 2??

One question 2-much ....


You only have to take the element off once twice a year maybe not like you have to remove constantly so what are you overly concerned with ... ??


Put it on and forget it ...





Mac http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Approve.gif

Camstyn,


You had the BD-air box before the AFE why did you switch??


How did it fit?


I think I like it http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Approve.gif





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desiel 5


looks good and a lot cheaper to do it that way, i sometimes think i should of went that way, could of saved 200buckshttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Dead.gif

I'm not sure why everyone has trouble putting on the air filter on the AFE. If you read the directions it tells you exactly how to do it with out removing the air tube.


Jesse

Mackin,


ya, I may be overreacting a bit I guess, but It just bothers me that its just not right. There's no reason at all that it needs to be so tight, theres plenty of room. Did AFE do any prototyping and fitment testing?


Next time it comes off, I may do my own fabricating http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif

The fitment of the AFE leaves a lot to be desired. The main tube is about 1" too long. I discussed this with AFE and they said that they were unaware of any problems.


I finally bought a 4" humphose and cut a 1.5" section out of the tube. Now it fits properly and even better yet, the hump hose allows for some movement. If you look at the OEM air intake you will notice a bellows which performs the same role.


I talked with the guys from AFE at SEMA about this problem, but they didn't seem too interested.


You might be interested to know that UNI sells a foam conical filter and overwrap which will fit. I think that I will buy one to replace the oiled gauze filter.


Here's a photo of my setup (if I can get the image to load). Oh well, guess that didn't work.


Edited by: Mackin

Whats a '4" humhose' and where do I get it? http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif

parussky


I'd be interested in looking at your setup ... If you are having trouble uploading pic email it to me I'll get it up on the screen ... If it's a picture link to a site that would be fine too ...


Mac

Mackin,


I'll forward the pic if you will send me your email address.

Whats a '4" humhose' and where do I get it? http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif





parussky AFE setup and tight fit fix ....http://mail.wackywack.com/forum/smileys/Thumbs%20Up.gif





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Sweet!!http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif


Where can I get that boot?http://dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big%20Smile.gif

I bought the humphose and clamps at the following website, only ran about $20 total. This solves the tight fitup problem and allows some movement between the engine and the filter box. You will need to cut about 1.5" out of the steel tube.


http://shop.airflowonline.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=AFSI&Product_Co de=3H4&Category_Code=HH

Camstyn,


You had the BD-air box before the AFE why did you switch??


How did it fit?


I think I like it http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Approve.gif





I switched because I wanted to swap out the OEM intake tube for a larger one. From what I'd read, the AFE Stage 2 was the best setup, and I found a great deal on a used one so I bought it. I was hoping I could use the AFE tube on the BD airbox but they are different designs and it wasn't compatible. After some consideration I decided to pull the BD out and put the AFE setup in. The BD fit great but I did have to take the metal bracket off (that the stock airbox sits on) for installation. It was a very cool looking setup I just never liked the stock air tube. Here's a pic I snapped right before I removed it..


http://members.shaw.ca/camstyn/bdxintake.jpg

I bought the humphose and clamps at the following website, only ran about $20 total. This solves the tight fitup problem and allows some movement between the engine and the filter box. You will need to cut about 1.5" out of the steel tube.


http://shop.airflowonline.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=AFSI&Product_Co de=3H4&Category_Code=HH








Thanks, I just ordered http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif


With shipping I was closer to $30, but at least It'll be right I guess.

This is off topic, yet on topic for me. For some reason every time I click to open this thread over the last several days, my floppy drive tries to see if there is a disk in it. Weird.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Geek.gif After it does it, nothing changes, everything still works as normal.


Just a comment, back to the thread.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Approve.gif


Steve

I didnt have any problems installing my AFE stg. 2. I have taken the filter off without any problems. The only problem I have is that the tube rubs on the hood insulation a little bit. Otherwise I am happy with it, especially the turbo whistle.

I Love that turbo spool!!


Hmmm, maybe the system was designed early and there was a tiny change??


On a side note, is that a stock prefilter sock on your AFE mackin? Where can I get me one of them? I run down very dusty dirt road kinda frequently and that would make me feel just that much better.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif

YZF1R,


The same thing happens to me.... It was driving me crazy. I have no Idea was cause that. Maybe there is a virus on this tread...??..??


Jesse

This is off topic, yet on topic for me. For some reason every time I click to open this thread over the last several days, my floppy drive tries to see if there is a disk in it. Weird.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Geek.gif After it does it, nothing changes, everything still works as normal.


Just a comment, back to the thread.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Approve.gif


Steve Mine does this also.

This is off topic, yet on topic for me. For some reason every time I click to open this thread over the last several days, my floppy drive tries to see if there is a disk in it. Weird.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Geek.gif After it does it, nothing changes, everything still works as normal.


Just a comment, back to the thread.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Approve.gif


Steve





Mine does it also


It's parussky's photo that didn't work. Right click on it and look at the properties: file:///a:/Edited by: Minn-Kota

YZF1R,


The same thing happens to me.... It was driving me crazy. I have no Idea was cause that. Maybe there is a virus on this tread...??..??


Jesse








This is the AFE thread...What you are hearing is the computer's TURBO spooling up!http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif





All of my computers do it also (3 of them).














Kevinhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clown.gif

Thanks to all. And thank you Minn-Kota for the answer. Like I said, I knew it was off topic but I never had anything like that happen before. BTW, when I clicked on it tonight, it was fine. Guess someone fixed it. I see what you mean by the "a" in the path. Glad it wasn't just me. Fireman, you could have been right. I just had to put in a new cooling fan for the CPU!


Thanks again folks! Wasn't trying to hijack the thread.


Back to the AFE...............


Steve


On edit: That hump hose looks like a great idea. Edited by: YZF1R

Could the fitting problems be related to the hood and fender design changes from 01-02 to 03-04? Maybe AFE set up for the early models and made an assumption. Just a thought. I like the hump hose idea and look.