Greetings to all Diesel Place members.

EFILive is pleased to announce not only our delight in sponsoring the Diesel Place forum, but that we are currently looking for people to participate in our PC based Duramax Diesel ECM programming beta test program.
Initially EFILive will offer support for the LB7 Duramax motor (2001 - 2004), so if you own or work with these engines then you may qualify to join us in our beta test program.
Although early 'in field' testing has already begun, the beta test program will 'officially' start just after SEMA. Are you coming to SEMA? if yes then checkout our Duramax PC based tuner first hand at SEMA/AAPEX Booth #34034 with AutoTap.
EFILive's Duramax programming opens the world to untapped power from this awesome 6.6L V8, never before has anybody offered such a detailed
tuning solution to the Duramax market.
No more add on boxes fooling the ECM, no need to 'stack', no more unwanted check engine lights, with EFILive you have complete control with over 100 parameters and tables to alter directly in the ECM from injection timing, injection amount (both pilot and main) for more power and better MPG, plus of course the simple things like VATS bypass, tire/speedo rescaling and the ability to change many diagnostic fault code parameters like overboost and DTC enablers.
Workshops will appreciate the option to lock ECM's from other tuners being able to read or write to the ECM, this includes the GM dealers!. Lock reversal and programming standard programs back into the ECM is a quick 40 second operation.
Team our awesome editor up with the best scantool on the market that includes features like the ability to log up to 25 mins of data without a laptop, built in EGT input that is logged alongside the engine data and you have a Duramax tuning and scanning solution rivalled by no other.
But if that's not enough, prices start from just $699 which will allow you to program any two vehicles EFILive supports (Duramax or LS1), then after that, additional vehicle programming licenses can be purchased via Email for under $100 with a maximum of 25 per cable.
Over the last year EFILive has taken LS1 tuning and scanning to a new level, now it's time for the Duramax!.
We are looking for all levels of users to help us get the product tailored to all spectrums of the market before it's public release.
The LB7 package is expected to be on sale at the start of December 2005, with the LLY to follow within a few months.
To initially qualify you must answer yes to all these questions -

1 - Do you own or have unlimited access to an LB7 Duramax that you will be willing to program?.
2 - Do you have at least a basic understanding of Diesel tuning and have an EGT probe?.
3 - Do you own a laptop with a USB port and have good general PC knowledge?.
4 - Do you finally want to get rid of plug in modules and generic one size fits all tunes from your truck?.
5 - You are prepared to purchase the EFILive product (if not already owned) to conduct the beta testing with.
6 - You are prepared to sign and return a non-compete and confidentiality agreement with EFILive.

If yes to all the above, then please send an Email to - betadiesel@efilive.com with a brief bio of yourself or your company, all Emails will be treated confidentially. Applications close on the 22nd of October, so be quick.

Here's a taste of what is in store for all Duramax tuners come December.....

Thank you,
Ross Myers
EFILive LTD


Modifying the Main Fuelling table:
http://www.efilive.com/upload/public/GMPX/DMAX/Main_Inj_Pulse.png



Easy to see differences between two different tunes:
http://www.efilive.com/upload/public/GMPX/DMAX/Compare.png


Ever wondered what was going on with your boost?:
http://www.efilive.com/upload/public/GMPX/DMAX/Des_Boost.png


Turn on/off all Fault codes in the ECM:
http://www.efilive.com/upload/public/GMPX/DMAX/DTC.png


Broaden the error tolerance for common fault codes:
http://www.efilive.com/upload/public/GMPX/DMAX/Diagnostics.png


Easy drop down options for changing tire sizes:
http://www.efilive.com/upload/public/GMPX/DMAX/Tire_Size.png


Failsafe programming takes under 40 seconds:
http://www.efilive.com/upload/public/GMPX/DMAX/Programming.png


Fully customisable 'themed' dashboards when scanning (LS1 Log shown):
http://www.efilive.com/upload/public/GMPX/DMAX/Dash_GTO.png
http://www.efilive.com/upload/public/GMPX/DMAX/Dash_Dmax.jpg


Or view logged data in the chart viewer (LS1 Log shown):
http://www.efilive.com/upload/public/GMPX/DMAX/Chart.png

:Whoa:

Makes me want to buy an LB7 just to play with one. :D

We've been waiting a LONG time for real (LS1-style) tuning and datalogging tools! :ro)

:Whoa:

Makes me want to buy an LB7 just to play with one. :D


Keep the LLY, it's coming for that later.

Cheers,
Ross

Can you change programing on the fly (like while driving down the road)? Or does the program need to be built and saved then put into use (like if the truck were on a dyno)?

It is not a 'modify in real time' type tuner, like say a Motec on a gas car.

Cheers,
Ross

This sounds cool! :cool: But I can also see alot of nimrods poping thier motor with the ability to do thier own tweaking :eek:

When do we get to start playing with the TCM? :D

When do we get to start playing with the TCM? :D

Never say never, it is 'sooo' needed though.

Cheers,
Ross

That aint no poop. Someone that could crack the TCM would own the market. Look how many people buy co pilots? And those deals dont do 1/2 the stuff we would like to do.

I would say that if you deal could do limited stuff with the trans like read the actual TCM codes and clear TAPs then that would be really cool

I remember all too well the problems we had with the 4L60E and the LS1 with the TAP's.....oh to disable them is such joy.

Cheers,
Ross

But I can also see alot of nimrods poping thier motor with the ability to do thier own tweaking :eek:



Yeah, but they probably don't have to worry about a deer jumping in front of the computer.:rolleyes:

Why not try to keep the disscusion pointed in the right direction instead of trying derail it:)

a new generation in tuning ....looks promising in the right hands

I was wondering when someone would finally get into the "diesel world" with something like this...... oh the possibilities.......

This sounds cool! :cool: But I can also see alot of nimrods poping thier motor with the ability to do thier own tweaking :eek:



I think you'll start seeing this with the 6.0 SCT systems and all of the instant expert tuners also.

Looks to be a GREAT product with a pretty sharp learning curve. Excellent tool for a guy who can park his truck on the dyno for a week plus!;)

There will always be a market for shrinkwrapped tuning. LS1Edit did not kill the gas market packaged tuning, so I doubt EFILive will kill it in the diesel world.

But for those who want to be in control of their motors, this will be the ticket. I estimate that in less than 12 months all the fastest Duramaxes will be "custom tuned".

So what are you going to call your first big tune? We got soup, we got salad.....we going to have cheese and brats next ):h

Excellent news! What is the sampling rate of your data logger?

Just to get a head start, I'll buy it now if there are any LB7 guys that live close to me and are interested in playing? PM me if your interested.

The tuning software I have used all have a significant learning curves, are probably not for everyone and yes you will have an opportunity to hurt some parts but the same can be said about LS1, LT1 edit, SCT Pro Racer Package, HPTuner, Tunercat, etc, especially when used to tune a supercharged gas engine. I agree 100% with Pat, the fastest Dmaxs will be running custom tuning.

When will someone crack the TCM? With Comp Cams releasing their line of cams I can't believe the TCM is far behind!!!!!!

If its like the LS1 platoform it will log at 10 fps

my dad has a lb7 open to play in northwest ohio hahahaha. just don't have the cash.

So what are you going to call your first big tune? We got soup, we got salad.....we going to have cheese and brats next ):h

I thought I'd start a poll. I had some initial ideas, (Giant Douche or Turd Sandwich:badidea: ) but Elaine already ruled them out. :eek:


Seriously, the learning curve thing will likely take a bit...

Just call it the Taco Bell tune. Runs so fast it is guaranteed to evacuate your colon. :lol: :eek:

This is the best news I have heard in a long time! Please get us LLY guys going asap!

pretty interesting , this could get real good!

Lessee....

Monday - BMDMAX "Devil went down to Georgia" tune.
Tuesday - Trippin "Hotel California" tune
Wednesday - McRat "California Dreamin'" tune
Thursady - Pnut "bad to the bone" tune
Friday - Ratlover "I hate myself for Lovin' you" tune
Saturday - Tomac "we will Rock You" tune (for the pulls of course)
Sunday - ???

My wife already thinks i'm insane. Now we are going to be driving around with my laptop plugged in to the OBDII port. Maybe she will get to drive.

The gasser guys have running with a notebook computer in the passenger seat for years now at the drags. Some guys actually have mounts made to hold them.

You only need the notebook hooked up while racing to record data. You record data so you can make intelligent adjustments to the tuning.

As usual, the LLYs will be sucking hind tit 6 months behind the LB7 boys. WE are the ones that actually "need" help.):h

The gasser guys have running with a notebook computer in the passenger seat for years now at the drags. Some guys actually have mounts made to hold them.

You only need the notebook hooked up while racing to record data. You record data so you can make intelligent adjustments to the tuning.

Somebody had to say, figured it would be you-:t ):h ):h

The gasser guys have running with a notebook computer in the passenger seat for years now at the drags. Some guys actually have mounts made to hold them.

You only need the notebook hooked up while racing to record data. You record data so you can make intelligent adjustments to the tuning.


Not with Flashcan version 1.2 and 2.0. Version 1 can record 23 minutes of data and for any lenght less than that. It can also record multiple vehicles (up to 23 minutes). I have mine set to log for 1:00 after I stage I hit the start button and DRIVE after the 1:00 has expired it stops logging. Version 2.0 will be able to record not 23 minutes of data but 2 hours of data. It will also be able to read, write and store tunes so you really dont need a laptop at all anymore just a PC with a usb hookup/memory card reader to upload and download tunes, logs and files. For moe information on the new interface check here http://www.efilive.com/flashscan.html

This sounds cool! :cool: But I can also see alot of nimrods poping thier motor with the ability to do thier own tweaking :eek:





Not true

Let someone near by, coughtonycough ,clearing my throat.Do some tweaking and then load it on my stock ECM for some play time.

That's unless your just calling Tony a nimrod,just cause you want to :D

Lessee....

Monday - BMDMAX "Devil went down to Georgia" tune.
Tuesday - Trippin "Hotel California" tune
Wednesday - McRat "California Dreamin'" tune
Thursady - Pnut "bad to the bone" tune
Friday - Ratlover "I hate myself for Lovin' you" tune
Saturday - Tomac "we will Rock You" tune (for the pulls of course)
Sunday - ???

Sunday is Race day no lessee available,run what you brung testing is over :)

Oh Tony is a nimrod):h but I wasnt referencing him in this case.:D

I suppose I should reword myself. I just see some uneducated people getting in trouble in a hurry. They may be very smart but if you arnt carefull or knowledgable I can see you getting in trouble in a hurry and poping motors and pissing off transmissions.

I got a 01 LB7 that is available to play with,let's roll......

Jack

Nimrod - A great hunter (biblical) or a small town in Minnesota (pop 65)

The insult Nimrod comes from a Bugs Bunny cartoon circa 1945 where he describes the hunter (Elmer Fudd) as a Nimrod.

:D

great FUDD history , McRatt:ro) :ro)

oh man this is gonna be great!!!! Finally something equal or better to the custom SCT tuning that 6.0 guys have avalible to them. I CANT WAIT FOR THE LLY SOFTWARE!!!!!!!

---Ben

is there enough wire to slide the diagnostic port over say 2ft?

On edit: I just looked, maybe get 6" over. either an extension wire or a leave the wire connected & tuck it under dash. Just to keep wire running to the laptop from hanging down.

Oh Tony is a nimrod):h but I wasnt referencing him in this case.:D

I suppose I should reword myself. I just see some uneducated people getting in trouble in a hurry. They may be very smart but if you arnt carefull or knowledgable I can see you getting in trouble in a hurry and poping motors and pissing off transmissions.

I got soup already...........I wonder if I can make soup or just a mess.........:rolleyes:

At least I can bag the TECH II...........:ro)
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The real beauty will be when you can optimize tuning for big injectors, nitrous, propane, twins, or oversized chargers. Too much timing on drugs? Back it down. Too much duration for big injectors? Tighten it up.

A REALLY cool feature to have would be to rescale the input from the boost sensor. More air should require more fuel, but our sensor tops out at 30PSI. While you can end up fueling big for the WOT full boost condition, what will that same setting do when you're at 1/2 throttle at 28 PSI? Run real hot and smokey for no valid reason.

Excellent news! What is the sampling rate of your data logger?

Just to get a head start, I'll buy it now if there are any LB7 guys that live close to me and are interested in playing? PM me if your interested.

The tuning software I have used all have a significant learning curves, are probably not for everyone and yes you will have an opportunity to hurt some parts but the same can be said about LS1, LT1 edit, SCT Pro Racer Package, HPTuner, Tunercat, etc, especially when used to tune a supercharged gas engine. I agree 100% with Pat, the fastest Dmaxs will be running custom tuning.

When will someone crack the TCM? With Comp Cams releasing their line of cams I can't believe the TCM is far behind!!!!!!

Data rates could be considered variable!!, using the ECM's different scanning modes it can be quite fast or useless slow, depends on how many variables you wish to monitor at once.

PC based tuners are not everyones cup of tea and are probably a bit more daunting than a yes / no programmer, but as what happened with the PC based LS1 tuners, people assist each other and a newbie can soon be making great progress.
As I often say to people, if you go and buy a Snap-On tool set, does that make you an engine builder?, no, but once you learn, at least you have the right tools to do it.

As for the TCM, hammer, string, soldering iron and duct tape ready and waiting, we are seriously looking into it, of course no ETA on when or if that may ever happen.

Cheers,
Ross

The real beauty will be when you can optimize tuning for big injectors, nitrous, propane, twins, or oversized chargers. Too much timing on drugs? Back it down. Too much duration for big injectors? Tighten it up.

A REALLY cool feature to have would be to rescale the input from the boost sensor. More air should require more fuel, but our sensor tops out at 30PSI. While you can end up fueling big for the WOT full boost condition, what will that same setting do when you're at 1/2 throttle at 28 PSI? Run real hot and smokey for no valid reason.

My thoughts exactly Pat, I don't believe it will do much more for us stockers that hasn't already been done by TTS's of the world as far as power levels go, the real benefits will be realized by the guys with bigger turbos, injectors, etc. I'm curious about the "2/3 bar Technology" listed on the website, will we be able to install a sensor with larger measuring capabilities? What about a larger MAF?

My thoughts exactly Pat, I don't believe it will do much more for us stockers that hasn't already been done by TTS's of the world as far as power levels go, the real benefits will be realized by the guys with bigger turbos, injectors, etc. I'm curious about the "2/3 bar Technology" listed on the website, will we be able to install a sensor with larger measuring capabilities? What about a larger MAF?



DOH!!!! I'm a retard! Yeah, without replacing the sensor itself, you're kinda stuck after 30 PSI. Probably time to start looking for a new sensor that can communicate with the ECM.

I think there will be still stock gains available, especially in smoke reduction, spool time, and EGT's, and perhaps a little peak power. Who knows? It would fun to try.

My thoughts exactly Pat, I don't believe it will do much more for us stockers that hasn't already been done by TTS's of the world as far as power levels go


Well yes and no, If you have a good tune on your laptop, it costs you a bit more than $99 to flash that into a buddys truck.
There is enough talk on this forum to indicate that power levels are not the main issue, it's how the thing drives and what comes out the exhaust getting up to that HP figure.


the real benefits will be realized by the guys with bigger turbos, injectors, etc. I'm curious about the "2/3 bar Technology" listed on the website, will we be able to install a sensor with larger measuring capabilities? What about a larger MAF?



The 2/3 bar on the web page is for the LS1, the LS1 never came from the factory with any program to run boost. Rescaling the Duramax MAF is no problem with the current software.

Cheers,
Ross

And Ratlover wants an LBZ!!!:eek: Might be a :badidea: with all the new toys coming to market!!

And Ratlover wants an LBZ!!!:eek: Might be a :badidea: with all the new toys coming to market!!

Word is that the LBZ is deer repellant.:D

Sounds very promising to me.

Since I'm a real novice when it comes to tuning, would there be something like "pre-set parameters" to plug in to create a tune?

In other words, I'd like a baseline tune that I could tweak to my liking so that I can learn as I go. If I'm just left to start from scratch, this may not be real beneficial to a guy like me.

And I bet Diesel Tech is just laughing right now. :)

So what are you going to call your first big tune? We got soup, we got salad.....we going to have cheese and brats next ):h

Buffet style :)

Sounds very promising to me.

Since I'm a real novice when it comes to tuning, would there be something like "pre-set parameters" to plug in to create a tune?

In other words, I'd like a baseline tune that I could tweak to my liking so that I can learn as I go. If I'm just left to start from scratch, this may not be real beneficial to a guy like me.

And I bet Diesel Tech is just laughing right now. :)

Ideally we will share information on forums such as these and have tunes that become "public domain" that others can use as is, or as a starting point for a custom tune.

But think about this - For the price, it's going to be a cheap alternative to the TECH II for datalogging, and it's ability to defeat engine codes will make it a great value for diesel hotrodders even if you never write your own custom tune.

I agree McRat--it's flat out good news for the industry in my book. There will be some stumbles and stubbed toes, but look at how far we've already come.

Ten years ago a "hot" pickup diesel was producing somewhere around 200 RWHP. :)

Thanks to all that have expressed interest so far in becoming a beta tester......seems I forgot one important line in my first post.

"You will be contacted after the cutoff date to let you know how the application went".

Appologies to those that thought I was ignoring Emails.:o: :iamwithst

Cheers,
Ross

i have used this on my 02 gas burner to help a few things...what a nice tool i must say....def. looking for this for the LLY!! :)

Sorry I haven't been in here much this week guys, I'm sitting on Jury duty and working a few hours in the evening to try keep up. :(

i thought the tune dad had was close to the climax, but this is just about orgasmic.

Please let us know when you are ready to start testing on the LLY. I have two that I would like to do some tuning with.

Just a note to say the EFILive Duramax Beta test applications have closed.
Anyone that applied........you have mail :)

Anyone with an LLY, we 'hope' to start our LLY testing in December, for those that already applied with an LLY we will hang onto your Email for when the LLY program starts.

Thanks,
Ross

Would a toy like this allow one guy to send info from his duramax`s ECM to another person(That is much smarter!) and have custom tunes made, then he could send the tune by say e-mail back to the first guy to program his truck? If so, many could get a huge benifit from this.
I for one would never try to build a custom tune, because I am not that smart when it comes to computers.:eek:

If you have a tune on your truck. would you be able to load that tune onto the laptop. and make changes to it? also where do you apply?

Would a toy like this allow one guy to send info from his duramax`s ECM to another person(That is much smarter!) and have custom tunes made, then he could send the tune by say e-mail back to the first guy to program his truck? If so, many could get a huge benifit from this.
I for one would never try to build a custom tune, because I am not that smart when it comes to computers.:eek:

Yep! :D

Just a note to say the EFILive Duramax Beta test applications have closed.
Anyone that applied........you have mail :)

Anyone with an LLY, we 'hope' to start our LLY testing in December, for those that already applied with an LLY we will hang onto your Email for when the LLY program starts.

Thanks,
Ross

Damn I'm kickin myself cause I missed out, forgot when the cutoff date was.

Finally! This is right up my alley. I have been tuning turbo cars for 6 years buildiung custom timing and fuel tables. Now I can play with my diesel! Just too bad I missed the cutoff. I can run software like that like nobodies business!

Jess

Download a demo copy of the software from www.efilive.com (http://www.efilive.com)
and have a look. You will only be able to see the Gen 3 LS-1 tables for now as the Duramax stuff is in beta, but it will give you an idea of what they have to offer.

They also have custom operating systems featuring support for the 2/3 bar systems.

You will be able to use the same software to do LS-1 vehicles and Duramax diesels just by selecting a menu and choosing which one you want to work on. :D

Finally! This is right up my alley. I have been tuning turbo cars for 6 years buildiung custom timing and fuel tables. Now I can play with my diesel! Just too bad I missed the cutoff. I can run software like that like nobodies business!

Jess

Damn i missed the cutoff Date i'd a been so up for this if i woulda seen it sooner definatly keep us updated guys

Damn i missed the cutoff Date i'd a been so up for this if i woulda seen it sooner definatly keep us updated guysI noticed in your sig your running the triple stack of death:eek:

Damn dude, you got some balls to stack the K&N and the Tornado:ro)

Thanks for the big smile Eric!

I noticed in your sig your running the triple stack of death:eek:

Damn dude, you got some balls to stack the K&N and the Tornado:ro)

Maybe u know someone w/ a new motor after the TSD takes it's toll ):h


BTW, I see your a beta tester too :cool2:

I noticed in your sig your running the triple stack of death:eek:

Damn dude, you got some balls to stack the K&N and the Tornado:ro)

And to top it off, a Hypertech....

Hope to start playing with EFI Live soon...

I noticed in your sig your running the triple stack of death:eek:

Damn dude, you got some balls to stack the K&N and the Tornado:ro)

:confused: ok confused is that really bad? i did the K&N and tornado in hopes of a bit better fuel economy but no such luck and the hypertech was mostly to change my speedo for the 265/75/16 wheels i have

I did all this before i found this sight awhile after i bought my truck granted now rather then buying a car to play with on the side i'm planning on building my truck thats why in my sig i got now going broke for performance i plan to do the tranny and a few other upgrades cause i wouldn mind takin the truck to the track my bikes fun but hard to stay consitant with and if i made it that way it be no fun on the street :rant:

:help: Cause after all i'm just a South dakota Farmer

:confused: ok confused is that really bad? i did the K&N and tornado in hopes of a bit better fuel economy but no such luck and the hypertech was mostly to change my speedo for the 265/75/16 wheels i have

I did all this before i found this sight awhile after i bought my truck granted now rather then buying a car to play with on the side i'm planning on building my truck thats why in my sig i got now going broke for performance i plan to do the tranny and a few other upgrades cause i wouldn mind takin the truck to the track my bikes fun but hard to stay consitant with and if i made it that way it be no fun on the street :rant:

:help: Cause after all i'm just a South dakota Farmer

:eek:

I thought the sig was a humorous stab at K&N and Tornado!

Lose the Tornado. Intake restriction does nothing good on a turbo motor.

Eric was being sarcastic. Yes, lose the tornado...

:eek:

I thought the sig was a humorous stab at K&N and Tornado!

Lose the Tornado. Intake restriction does nothing good on a turbo motor.

hmm now i wish it was :eek: ok well i'm pulling that out tonight after combining then oh well live and learn and well definatly more learning after finding this site

Cause after all i'm just a South dakota Farmer


I've got a few acres of wheat near Murdo. :D

another person who should read "REMEMBER WHEN " in the off topic thred , everybody is just ribing ya, do many searches and just listen in on the posts , you will learn very quick

well i've got no probs with ribbing but heck i got no problem if someone tells me something is wrong with mysetup i'm glad to hear the opinion i just got a bit concerned there for a moment anyways dulley noted and no need to be off topic anymore

Anything new on the availability of this?
Thanks

Anything new on the availability of this?
Thanks

The software and hardware is available now for LS-1. The Duramax functionality is still in Beta and is expected to be released in December.

When available it will be a simple download and installation of the additional software. The hardware will remain the same.

Some members here have already purchased and received their kit in order to familiarize themselves with the software prior to release of the Duramax side.

As a beta tester I have been writing tunes and data logging my truck for over a month now.

Hope this helps. :D

The beta units apparently have shipped, but the CD included is incorrect if I understand correctly. Correct CD's will be sent ASAP. This is what I was told regarding my unit at least.

The beta units apparently have shipped, but the CD included is incorrect if I understand correctly. Correct CD's will be sent ASAP. This is what I was told regarding my unit at least.

Just to clarify John, the CDs that were shipped are correct and will load the software just fine, they just don't include the Duramax functionality.

As a Beta tester you will probably be allowed to download the Duramax patch from the secure "Beta Forum" on EFI Live's web site. (assuming you turned in your signed Beta agreement) :D

50mb download.

I'm going to do it, but Ross is sending the correct CD also.

I should also note the word HOPEFULLY by the end of the day in New Zealand for download availability...

50mb download.

I'm going to do it, but Ross is sending the correct CD also.

I should also note the word HOPEFULLY by the end of the day in New Zealand for download availability...

John,

Once the software is on the server for download the link will be posted in our Duramax Beta section.....if you haven't registered on our forum now is the time.

But what I will say is the delay was worth the wait - the LLY scan tool is now operational and has been included in this first BETA test release.

Cheers,
Ross

I was interested in getting this product after it's released but I was wondering if the LB7 and LLY will be on the same program after both releases? Or will you have to buy both? I can't wait to see everybody's dyno numbers. Also I know some may frown on this but can you install a tune from a programer on the vehicle then upload it to efi live to view and change parameters. I would think that would be an easy way to get some new users used to the software and see how mapping is built.

OK, registered. Haven't located the Beta forum yet, but looking around.

I was interested in getting this product after it's released but I was wondering if the LB7 and LLY will be on the same program after both releases? Or will you have to buy both? I can't wait to see everybody's dyno numbers. Also I know some may frown on this but can you install a tune from a programer on the vehicle then upload it to efi live to view and change parameters. I would think that would be an easy way to get some new users used to the software and see how mapping is built.

Yes the software will contain the LS-X gas motor platform, the LB7 and the LLY when available, all for $699. :D

OK, registered. Haven't located the Beta forum yet, but looking around.

They will authorize your log in to see the Beta forum. Wait for the E-mail. :D

Got the auth for the general forum, but haven't seen the beta forum. Am I being dense or did I miss something along the way?

Got the auth for the general forum, but haven't seen the beta forum. Am I being dense or did I miss something along the way?

It shows up on the general index if you have the rights to it. I'm sure you will be contacted soon. ;)

Got the auth for the general forum, but haven't seen the beta forum. Am I being dense or did I miss something along the way?

All done John, after several high level meetings with the likes of the WTO, CIA, FBI and the Justice Dept, you now have access to the Diesel section.

Cheers,
Ross

:funnypost

OK, so NOW how am I supposed to get anything done around here with a toy like this to play with...

Thanks Trippin and Ross

will this remove the limiter on the 01???

will this remove the limiter on the 01???

Not yet. They are looking into it. :D

Maybe they can remove the speed limiter on LLY's "for real". Right now with my PPE Hot Xcellerator (which "removes" the speed limiter and "raises" the rev limiter) my truck falls on its face at 116 mph and ~3400 RPM. Dispite the fact that PPE claims they raise the rev limiter to 3800. Well yeah, I can rev it that high in park...:rolleyes:

---Ben

What is it with the 01 and speedlimiter?

different ECM than all the other trucks IIRC...

--Ben

different ECM than all the other trucks IIRC...

--Ben

02's are the same.I maybe wrong but wasn't there a RPM max change in 02?

hmm maybe different programming then? Im not sure...

TTS Extreme takes care of it on '01s. I'll bet that EFILive will be able to get rid of it, once someone finds out what needs to be done.

hmm now i wish it was :eek: ok well i'm pulling that out tonight after combining then oh well live and learn and well definatly more learning after finding this site

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Can EFI Live tune on the fly? For instance, could you change the tune at a stoplight if you get lined up against a 'Stang or something?

Can EFI Live tune on the fly? For instance, could you change the tune at a stoplight if you get lined up against a 'Stang or something?


That wouldn't be possible as it's a flash style tuner like any ECM uploader

Is there a version for the 06 trucks in the works yet?

I am under the impression that the 06 trucks are a LONG way off.

yeah I think hand held programmers in general and EFILive for the 2006 trucks are going to need a lot more work and hardware due to the implimentation of the GMLAN data bus. IMO, we will see harness boxes for the 2006 trucks way before hand-held programmers. The older trucks still used the CAN-bus (GMLAN and CAN are pretty much the same as I understand it...GMLAN is just a more refined version of the SAE J-1939 CANbus), but the CAN bus was also backed up by the slower Class II data bus so everything else in the truck (including the DLC/OBD port) could still communicate with the ECM/TCM using Class II. Now, if you want to talk to the TCM or ECM, you have to use GMLAN only. Which is why handheld programmers (PPE, Quad, Predator etc..) are going to now need some sort of CANdi module-like device to be able to reprogram the ECM...

--Ben

2006 LZ trucks also use the Bosch PCM as opposed to the Delphi PCMs in LB7 and LLY.

Unless one of the tuning companies is getting inside information from Bosch, it could be a while. :(

2006 LZ trucks also use the Bosch PCM as opposed to the Delphi PCMs in LB7 and LLY.

Unless one of the tuning companies is getting inside information from Bosch, it could be a while. :(

Actually, from what I have heard this computer is quite common in Europe on the BMW, Audi Diesels, so there is probably something out there already :eek:

Cheers,
Ross

Which is why handheld programmers (PPE, Quad, Predator etc..) are going to now need some sort of CANdi module-like device to be able to reprogram the ECM...
--Ben
FlashScan V2 comes standard with Twin wire CAN and single wire GMLan (also J1850, ALDL and other protocol support). The FlashScan V2 hardware has been designed for all possible future hardware scenarios that we can think of.

Now as Trippin said, the new Bosch computer is another beastie altogether and while we would dearly like to offer reprogramming for the LBZ we currently have no plans for it, except maybe scanning.

Regards
Paul
EFILive Limited

FlashScan V2 comes standard with Twin wire CAN and single wire GMLan (also J1850, ALDL and other protocol support). The FlashScan V2 hardware has been designed for all possible future hardware scenarios that we can think of.

Now as Trippin said, the new Bosch computer is another beastie altogether and while we would dearly like to offer reprogramming for the LBZ we currently have no plans for it, except maybe scanning.

Regards
Paul
EFILive Limited

That's how it starts......."maybe scanning" and then........................):h

Just keep an open mind Paul........an open mind.......never say never. :D

will EFILive ever support the Allison TCM?? You guys would make a fortune if you cracked it!!

--ben


on that note.......is ANYONE even close to cracking the Ally TCM?

on that note.......is ANYONE even close to cracking the Ally TCM?

I have an Allison TCM currently undergoing torture treament to let out all it's secrets :D . We don't know at this stage if we will actually do them, but at least feel happy that we have one here being 'evaluated'.

Cheers,
Ross

Make it talk...........make it talk..........no more secrets...........!!!!!!!

I have an Allison TCM currently undergoing torture treament to let out all it's secrets :D . We don't know at this stage if we will actually do them, but at least feel happy that we have one here being 'evaluated'.

Cheers,
Ross

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
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Is the elusive 6th gear in there somewhere?
Also (please don't be offended) wasn't Sniper Tuning doing something similar to this. I think their not even on the radar any longer.

Is the elusive 6th gear in there somewhere?
Also (please don't be offended) wasn't Sniper Tuning doing something similar to this. I think their not even on the radar any longer.

Sniper promised us something last April. :(

EFILive delivered. :D

TCM is a priority. BCM would be nice too :D

Is the elusive 6th gear in there somewhere?
Also (please don't be offended) wasn't Sniper Tuning doing something similar to this. I think their not even on the radar any longer.

Actually I met Patrick from Sniper at SEMA this year, Patrick if you are reading this, don't be offended, but if ever they do a remake of 'Taxi Driver' and Robert DeNiro is busy, you get the part......an amazing likeness in many ways, I think it was more the accent.

Anyway, I don't know exactly what they are upto but it seemed they were very busy with the FORD gas/diesel tuner they have.

Cheers,
Ross

Would it be at all possible to tap into the Tech II in order to learn how it comunicates with the TCM, then use what you learned to talk too the TCM?

Just a thought from a dummy!

Actually I met Patrick from Sniper at SEMA this year, Patrick if you are reading this, don't be offended, but if ever they do a remake of 'Taxi Driver' and Robert DeNiro is busy, you get the part......an amazing likeness in many ways, I think it was more the accent.

Anyway, I don't know exactly what they are upto but it seemed they were very busy with the FORD gas/diesel tuner they have.

Cheers,
Ross

They are the competition.

Stop being so nice....-:t

(Whats next a group hug?) :D ):h

Would it be at all possible to tap into the Tech II in order to learn how it comunicates with the TCM, then use what you learned to talk too the TCM?

Just a thought from a dummy!

That's how it done.

Cheers,
Ross

Would it be at all possible to tap into the Tech II in order to learn how it comunicates with the TCM, then use what you learned to talk too the TCM?

Just a thought from a dummy!

That is one way to do it :) We have special versions of FlashScan that monitor/log all comms data on the J1850 line.
However we are confident we can figure out the bidirectional commands without resorting to that just yet.

Regards
Paul

They are the competition.


How so?, we can program a Duramax, they cannot :rolleyes:
They can program FORD's we cannot :)
But I know what you mean.

Cheers,
Ross

That is one way to do it :) We have special versions of FlashScan that monitor/log all comms data on the J1850 line.
However we are confident we can figure out the bidirectional commands without resorting to that just yet.

Regards
Paul

I guess I have got a tad bit smarter while I wasn't looking:) If you do tap into the TCM, everyone with the D/A will want this toy. (Or the 8.1/A for that matter!)