: IPOD Axxess Interface GMIP-01 Issues
AndrewFessler 10-05-2005, 03:46 PM So I got my Axxess adapter today for my IPOD.
When I hook the unit up per the instructions, all sorts of bad things happen.
The ABS light comes on, the Airbag light flickers, the chime starts chiming and then stops.
I turn the radio on, and switch to XM, and it says XM error and switches to FM. Then the radio goes from a bright display to a dim display, back to bright, etc.
Those of you who have an Axxess unit, do you have 1 yellow and 1 green wire coming out of the interface?
I hooked the yellow wire to the orange "12v" wire of the radio interface. The instructions dont say anything about the green wire.
I tried using the adapter without XM plugged into it and with XM plugged into it. If I have XM NOT plugged in, then the radio only gives me FM/AM when I press the band button.
When I have XM plugged in, I get a FUZZY xm reception on the preview channel, and then it dumps an XM error.
THis is with a 6 disc changer.
Ideas?
Diesel Dragon 10-05-2005, 03:55 PM NO NO NO NO NO NO
Disconnect it quick
Be right back let me get my instructions
Diesel Dragon 10-05-2005, 04:03 PM There are 2 loose yellow wires, one yellow wire by itself and one yellow thts tied to a green one. The one by itself goes to the orange wire on the 24 pin plug.
The yellow and green have to get wired to a relay to work with your XM.
If you look in the center page of the instructions under "interfacing with the oem xm tuner" you will see how to wire the yellow and green to a relay that you have to supply yourself.
DD
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Diesel Dragon 10-05-2005, 04:10 PM Did you wire the wrong yellow one to 12+ ?
AndrewFessler 10-05-2005, 04:37 PM I disconnected it. Last thing I wanted was the airbag to blow up in my face. :)
On my unit, there are TWO lose yellow wires. One has a male blade plug on the end, the other is nothing. THe yellow wires are tied together near the connector.
The GREEN wire is all by itself.
My directions said to hook the yellow wire to the orange wire.
nothing about the 2nd yellow wire or the green wire!
ALl mine says regarding XM is, that if one choses to use the OEM XM tuner, no text will be displayed.
If using with OEM external CD, one has to cut a "pink" wire.
I left the instructions in the truck, I'll PDF it and post here.
Hmmh.
There are 2 loose yellow wires, one yellow wire by itself and one yellow thts tied to a green one. The one by itself goes to the orange wire on the 24 pin plug.
The yellow and green have to get wired to a relay to work with your XM.
If you look in the center page of the instructions under "interfacing with the oem xm tuner" you will see how to wire the yellow and green to a relay that you have to supply yourself.
DD
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DURAtotheMAX 10-05-2005, 04:50 PM Alright Andrew...Heres how it needs to be hooked up...the yellow wire with NOTHING on the end of it gets tapped into the radio power wire (thick orange wire...I think A12 or soemthing, NOT the thin orange wire, thats Class II data). The yellow and green wires with the female spade terminals on them get plugged onto a standard DPST (i think its a DPST, radio shack didnt have a DPST so I just used a DPDT) relay. Cut the orange wire that goes into the XM receiver and wire in the XM power wire to the side of the relay that is "normally closed". In other words, put the XM power wire onto the two connections of the relay that will let power flow through when there is NO power going to the "coil" of the relay. Plug those yellow and green wires from the Axxess module into the "coil" connections on the relay. You want it to work so when those yellow and green wires provide +12 v, it BREAKS the orange wire power connection to the XM reciever. If something is unclear, I can try to reexplain it or ill draw a little diagram. Hope that helps!
---Ben
ALSO--- DONT cut the pink wire!! Thats if you want the axxess module to "pretend" its an external Escalade style CD changer. You dont want that. You want the Axxess thing to pretend its the XM moduel, that way you get the title and artist info...
DURAtotheMAX 10-05-2005, 04:54 PM eeek now that I think about it...the way you had it hooked up might have dumped 12 volt battery power into the Class II data bus.:eek: Hopefully nothing got fried...the Class II data bus is only supposed to operate at a max of 5.05 volts IIRC. If you unplug the Axxess module and things are still wonky, the BCM or any of the other Class II speaking modules in the truck (ooh boy theres dozens of them) might have gotten fried...hopefully that didnt happen though.Censored :mad:
---Ben
AndrewFessler 10-05-2005, 04:55 PM This is all my instructions say:
Edited to remove link to bad instructions, which if someone followed, could potentially harm your radio. Use the instructions listed below.
AndrewFessler 10-05-2005, 04:58 PM Everything still works fine after I unhooked it. I did everything with the truck off, so the alternator was not putting out 14volts.
Photos coming shortly.
eeek now that I think about it...the way you had it hooked up might have dumped 12 volt battery power into the Class II data bus.:eek: Hopefully nothing got fried...the Class II data bus is only supposed to operate at a max of 5.05 volts IIRC. If you unplug the Axxess module and things are still wonky, the BCM or any of the other Class II speaking modules in the truck (ooh boy theres dozens of them) might have gotten fried...hopefully that didnt happen though.Censored :mad:
--Ben
DURAtotheMAX 10-05-2005, 05:00 PM hmmm my instructions have a lot more info on them, like how to interface it with the OEM XM tuner. Ill try to "scan" my instructions...(read: take a picture of them with my digital camera :) )
---ben
AndrewFessler 10-05-2005, 05:04 PM Photos below
DURAtotheMAX 10-05-2005, 05:06 PM hmm thats wierd...my Axxess wiring harness looks different than that. Maybe you have an older version? Mines all tucked away now, but lemme try to find a picture of it...
---ben
AndrewFessler 10-05-2005, 05:06 PM I only recall one orange wire in my harness, it was in PIN 1. I hope that wasnt the CLass II, although, based on all the funky things the truck was doing, I wouldnt be surprised.
All I did was splice the yellow wire into that orange wire. I didnt take 12v from another source and stick to that orange wire.
Thanks for your assistance Ben!
AndrewFessler 10-05-2005, 05:10 PM This one does say GMIP-01 on the bottom of it.
The website listed on the paper: www.metraonline.com is useless!!
Diesel Dragon 10-05-2005, 05:12 PM Your missing prt of the instructions.
On page 3 under the "interface operations is supposed to be another section titled "interfacing with the oem xm tuner.
And something dosent look right on your pictures the yellow wire is all one wire its just split into two.
I'm pretty sure mine had 2 seperate yellow wires coming out of the plug.
Where did you get that axxcess unit from.
DD
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AndrewFessler 10-05-2005, 05:12 PM Does yours look like?
http://www.circuitcity.com/IMAGE/product/enlarged/met/EC.MET.GMIP01.JPG
Diesel Dragon 10-05-2005, 05:14 PM I type too slow Ben beat me too it.
Diesel Dragon 10-05-2005, 05:17 PM Mine look like this one from JP
http://www.jpcustoms.com/store/customer/product.php?productid=16985&cat=733&page=1
AndrewFessler 10-05-2005, 05:19 PM I hope my unit, being an older "version" will still work. I emailed the company I bought it from and they simply said:
"I am sorry to hear it, but it looks more like incorrect installation, but not the radio problem.
Thank you.
Customer Service Dept."
Diesel Dragon 10-05-2005, 05:20 PM I think the unit you have was not made for a factory XM radio.
If you look on Jasons site there is a box to check when ordering wether or not you have factory XM.
I think it makes a diffrence on the Axxcess module and wiring.
Plus your missing part of the printed instructions on page 3 that tells you how to hook up to XM
AndrewFessler 10-05-2005, 05:21 PM Yup, that looks like mine. are you able to scan or fax your instructions to me?
Mine look like this one from JP
http://www.jpcustoms.com/store/customer/product.php?productid=16985&cat=733&page=1
DURAtotheMAX 10-05-2005, 05:21 PM http://www.gm-trucks.com/forums/lofiversion/index.php?t42548.html
Try that Andrew...those instructions are pretty helpful...Im confused though because IIRC, those two yellow wires on my AXXESS module came out of SEPARATE pins on the plug, like DD said. If you really get stuck I can go pull mine and take pictures of it. Ive been behind that instrument panel so many times I can have the dash off and radio out in 5 minutes :)
---ben
AndrewFessler 10-05-2005, 05:22 PM Excellent. I'll head home and stop at RatShack and pick up a SPST or SPDT relay and go to work tonight.
I'll let you know if it works, or I blow something up! DOH!
Diesel Dragon 10-05-2005, 05:23 PM If you look at the picture at JP you can see the green wire with a plug on the end. It's pointing up towards the plastic bag with the other parts, plus you can see two yellow wires going under the bag.
DURAtotheMAX 10-05-2005, 05:27 PM Make sure to get a DOUBLE throw relay...doesnt matter if its single or double pole relay though. Radio Shack didnt have any SPDT relays cause they're kinda an obscure part, but a DPDT relay will work...just make sure its double throw. Doesnt matter how many poles.
--Ben
AndrewFessler 10-05-2005, 10:45 PM Ok, it is up and running. Thanks guys for the help and links. What I did, based on the link that Ben posted worked, and is a FAR cry from what the "directions" which came with the unit said to do. So annoying. I am glad I didnt screw up the Class II bus.
The quality level is superb. I do miss NOT being able to use the ipod interface.
I'll probably keep my eye out for a unit that does, at an economical cost.
Thanks again!!
AndrewFessler 10-05-2005, 10:51 PM When I shut the radio off, take the key out of the ignition and the accessory power to the radio shuts off, my IPOD is still on, will it auto turn off?
SmoknDmax 10-05-2005, 10:51 PM Here is what came with my Axxess interface.
9549
9550
You really weren't missing anything.
I also looked at the harness on my box and it looks the same as yours. One yellow wire that is split in to two.
SmoknDmax 10-05-2005, 10:54 PM Sorry, I was uploading the instructions when you were posting that you got it working.
The IPod will Auto shutoff on its own after a period of time. It should automatically pause when the power is shut off to it. Then after a few minutes of being paused it is supposed to shut off.
Also, I don't think there is anything else on the market right now that displays the song titles, artist, album info on the radio display like this one will. The other negative is the display on the IPod becomes useless since it is always displaying the message OK to Disconnect.
Duramaxdad 10-05-2005, 10:58 PM For you guys that have a Nav unit and have an Axxess interface hooked up, does your unit show "ipod" on the screen or XM1/XM2?
DURAtotheMAX 10-05-2005, 11:32 PM XM1/XM2..."iPod" is not in the TNR software. The TNR simply thinks the Axxess module/ipod IS the XM reciever...
---Ben
Cougar281 10-06-2005, 12:01 AM Sorry to hijack the thread...
You guys have me wanting an iPod now... I have a Kenwood Music Keg in my car, but with an iPod, they have have a Kenwood adapter to make it work like the Music Keg in my car (controlled by headunit), and the GMIP-01 unit to do the same in the truck... I WANT! The reason for this post though, is do you know if there's any portable XM unit that would work the same way (headunit controlled, portable, can be used with my Kenwood headunit or the GM headunit)? Being as I have two vehicles, but can only drive one at a time, it would be nice to have ONE XM subscription that I can use in either vehicle....
DURAtotheMAX 10-06-2005, 12:07 AM I dont beleive there is any PORTABLE XM unit that will interface with the OEM head unit...I mean you could get an aux audio input from PAC and run audio to the OEM head unit that way, it would sound perfect, but you wouldnt have control over the XM unit with the steering wheel controls or head unit buttons.
---ben
Cougar281 10-06-2005, 12:24 AM Maybe I used the wrong term... don't really need "portable". What I'm referring to is the ability to move from one vehicle to the other, maybe inside too, but doesn't have to be like the MyFi unit that you can take anywhere and can run off it's own battrery and give you XM in the middle of nowhere, store 5hrs of XM Feed...
Duramaxdad 10-06-2005, 07:36 PM XM1/XM2..."iPod" is not in the TNR software. The TNR simply thinks the Axxess module/ipod IS the XM reciever...
---Ben
Ben,
I could have sworn JP Customs had a photo of a Nav unit, and it said "IPOD" in the upper left hand corner. I can't find that photo now of course. I will call them tomorrow and see what they say.
Russ
DURAtotheMAX 10-06-2005, 08:00 PM hmmm I think I know which photo you are talking about, Russ...I think it might have said Ipod in the "category" field or the "channel name" field. But as for the area where the TNR display's the current audio source (FM, AM, CDX, etc..) I think "iPod" would have to be in the TNR's software, becuase thats info already in the TNR, it does not recieve it from whichever module it is talking to at the current time.
--Ben
AndrewFessler 10-06-2005, 09:45 PM USA Spec has one.
http://www.usaspec.com/ipodgm.htm
supposedly this one does NOT lock the IPOD screen but does permit text displaying on the radio.
Also, I don't think there is anything else on the market right now that displays the song titles, artist, album info on the radio display like this one will. The other negative is the display on the IPod becomes useless since it is always displaying the message OK to Disconnect.
Duramaxdad 10-06-2005, 10:14 PM USA Spec has one.
http://www.usaspec.com/ipodgm.htm
supposedly this one does NOT lock the IPOD screen but does permit text displaying on the radio.
This sounds like a good kit, but you can't control the Ipod from the steering wheel controls. In which case, you give up the ability to control the Ipod from the Ipod itself, but that's worth it to me, helps me keep my eyes on the road, and my wife from yelling "your'e running off the road!!!".
Russ
AndrewFessler 10-06-2005, 10:38 PM Incorrect.
The USA Spec and the Axxess ipod kits DO let you control the IPOD using the radio/steering wheel controls.
Duramaxdad 10-07-2005, 12:45 AM I know the Axxess kit allows steering wheel control, but from what the website says in its features section, it doesn't look like the USA Spec does. Maybe I missed!!??
Russ
DURAtotheMAX 10-07-2005, 01:17 AM It doesnt say anywhere on the USA Spec site that it displays Ipod TEXT (title/artist) info...
---ben
Tamale 12-29-2005, 12:38 PM old thread but a goodie. I'm gonna install my axxess adapter tonight or tomorrow. I have a TNR Nav unit but NO XM. What do I do with the green and yellow wires?
Diesel Dragon 12-29-2005, 12:48 PM If I rememberr correctly you dont have to do anything with them, their only used if you have to run a relay to turn the XM reciever on and off.
Just tape them up.
Ben will chime in with the correct answer if I'm wrong.
DD
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DURAtotheMAX 12-31-2005, 02:24 PM If I rememberr correctly you dont have to do anything with them, their only used if you have to run a relay to turn the XM reciever on and off.
Just tape them up.
Ben will chime in with the correct answer if I'm wrong.
DD
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:exactly: what DD said!! You dont have to do anything with them...
--Ben
robabner 01-03-2006, 06:30 PM I'm getting ready to install mine as soon as the wife gets home with it. Where are you guys putting the Ipod plug end? glove box, console?
Duramaxdad 01-03-2006, 06:46 PM Rob,
I mounted mine in the glove box. Seemed like a safe place to me. Here is a pic.
http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/8721fb7c/e3b7/__sr_/4714re2.jpg?phIDxuDBzxMSVJfi
Diesel Dragon 01-03-2006, 08:38 PM I put mine under the cup holders in the center console.
Out of sight from prying eyes and hands.
AndrewFessler 01-03-2006, 09:39 PM I put mine in the glove box. I take my ipod out sometimes to show friends or family photos i have saved on it. (I have the photo ipod.)
kylant 01-04-2006, 02:17 PM hey quick question,
i have the 6 disc changer and XM. will this interface allow me to keep and use both in addition to my ipod? i searched, but did not see the answer (i may have missed it):o:
thanks
Diesel Dragon 01-04-2006, 05:56 PM Yes it will.
ovrxpsd 01-09-2006, 12:46 AM Andrew,
I just installed my axxess. It works great and I also have the Ipod Photo. The Ipod connector doesn't fit very well on mine. How about yours?
AndrewFessler 01-09-2006, 09:55 AM My ipod connector fits nice and snugly into the bottom of my ipod. Maybe check the compression pins on the side of the connector or something.
Max Power 01-09-2006, 10:48 AM Does anyone have a GMIP-01 not installed yet? I need someone to do a quick check on an ohm meter for me. I think my input and output audio connections might be reversed.
DURAtotheMAX 01-09-2006, 12:01 PM Im not too busy (no work today) so I can pull mine out. What do you need checked?
--Ben
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