Since this problem is not being acknowledged / repaired by GM, what are you doing with your overheating truck??

1) Driving it as is and overheating it when you pull a heavy load.

2) Driving it as is and not using it for any heavy work.

3) Spending your own time and money to try to fix it.

4) Trying to get it bought back under a lemon law.

5) Trading it off / selling it at a loss to purchase a newer GM truck.

6) Trading it off / selling it at a loss to purchase a different brand.

Thanks.

Franklin-man.

#7 Buy back- + cash out of pocket for OEM upgrades IE LS to LT3

3 x 3. My mods have gotten mine under control. Love the trucks and until blizzardplowman proves that the LBZ is the fix my only other option is a Do*ge.

3 x 3. My mods have gotten mine under control. Love the trucks and until blizzardplowman proves that the LBZ is the fix my only other option is a Do*ge.
RDL- man that is a nasty word D*&^% ):h I will find out soon, still on track to be built this week. Bad part is winter is almost here and I'll tow heavy but the OAT will be alot less. Time will tell. Love my Dmax's so I hope they fixed the "non" issue.

my local dealership is still working on mine. unless they are willing to do a buyback i will keep mine and be forced to use the 03 when pulling heavy. i cant take the loss on mine selling it for a 06. im hoping if anything maybe they will extend my warrenty. it really sucks spending that much money on something that wont pull but gm has us by the balls. i also have alot of faith in the guys that are working on the problem here. i think they will get it fixed, its just a matter of time.

#1 for me. According to my dealer my truck has never over heatd? I hope one day soon to take it to them blown and say see I told you so!!!

TLTBOWEN, as much as I hate to see one overheat, I have one that has turned on the warning light as many as 7 times in one day. GM safe gaurded the motor well. I can not seem to hurt it. It has over 140,000 miles on it now and runs like a top. I do not think it is possible to blow it up, and I've tried.

#4 is my way of travel it is a slow crawl but I am getting there

My truck has never overheated yet, nor have I ever heard the fan kick on like most of you have described. I don't tow often, but I have towed an 8k lb 26ft boat that was very high and had alot of drag in the middle of the summer and the needle didnt go above 210 degrees, even when going up high bridges and overpasses.

Some do and some dont I just cant understand this, all these trucks are machined to fine tolerances GMC would not them different, so why do we have this problem.

My truck has never overheated yet, nor have I ever heard the fan kick on like most of you have described. I don't tow often, but I have towed an 8k lb 26ft boat that was very high and had alot of drag in the middle of the summer and the needle didnt go above 210 degrees, even when going up high bridges and overpasses.holy crap a happy customer.

Some do and some dont I just cant understand this, all these trucks are machined to fine tolerances GMC would not them different, so why do we have this problem.some people tow too much weight.. that seem to have alot to do with it and by the way there is an investigation ongoing . first step of new tsb dated sept 30 2005 is to check for any non oem intake or eng parts, I think that will include programmers. not sure.or grills and take them off. should get interesting.

mikek996, no offense but I can over heat at 16,000 pounds gross bone stock! The only thing that keeps me from sueing GM is the fact that the modifications are helping. I have a very detailed history with 4 differant LLY trucks. There is a flaw in these engines and GM has the bean counters working.

mike.... i have had mine overheat pulling as little as 6000lbs. am i asking to much?

mike.... i have had mine overheat pulling as little as 6000lbs. am i asking to much?no but like I said it only came out sept 30 so your next visit to the dealer might help

some people tow too much weight.. that seem to have alot to do with it and by the way there is an investigation ongoing . first step of new tsb dated sept 30 2005 is to check for any non oem intake or eng parts, I think that will include programmers. not sure.or grills and take them off. should get interesting.

Sounds like collecting a list of people that they can lay blame and to void warranty so they can avoid buyback possibility. Quick way out of liability for GM, the customer modified the vehicle. More raising of shields and less open arms, right in there with the new policy of just closing complaints and blacklisting customers as "unhappy customer - do not work on truck"

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Mike, this may not be a good place to discuss this. We don't want to hyjack this thread. I have sent you a PM. If you have good info please start a thread with that info. A tsb # would be a great start.

TX has got that right My dealer has been looking for two summers now for any reason to viod warranty. To bad for him cause I haven't modded anything. As to your question I will drive it like a half ton till it's depreciated out then unload it on someone who doesn't read this forum. I have a Dodge to do the heavy work!!

I'm thinking most that have the problem are in the hotter reggions of the US.

Istarted out in Palm Springs ( 123 degrees) and drove to Flagstaff ( 80 degrees) 7 hours apart. From Palm Springs to Phoenix fan on ALL the time temps hot. Got to Flagstaff temps normal, fan off. Go figure.

Anybody that did not see this coming was looking through rose colored glasses.

The fix is done on the 06', plain as the nose on your face. At this point GM is in protection mode of "their" dollars. This will be spun and denied until the warranties expire on the problem trucks...end game.

Had a class action been organized as a group we would have had a prayer.

Mine will remain a very low mile unit until 08', then be traded. The market dynamics in this segment look to be swinging in our favor over the next 24 months. I will be getting rid of two full size GM products in my household.

I'm going with #3 until I can leave the General in my rear view mirror. Sorry, but this is the 3rd under-built truck I've had in 15 years from GM (I don't buy trucks as often as some of you, but I do depend on the ones I do buy), and it will be the last chance they've had with me...

Think I'll go back to the Furd and not worry about having a few LBs behind it or in it's bed. *EVER* (you brand loyalists can start your drum roll now...)

this truck SUCKS... and then it SUCKS some more...-:t

Going back to Furd? Man oh man, do not ask me about my 86 T-Bird! Or the hundreds of others either!.lol POS, and I do not mean Point of sale.

Think I'll go back to the Furd and not worry about having a few LBs behind it or in it's bed. *EVER* (you brand loyalists can start your drum roll now...)

this truck SUCKS... and then it SUCKS some more...-:t

F*rds have their fair share of problems too (more IMO). Check out some of their boards. They too have had a coolant issue.

None of the big three are what they are represented to be. I will not own one of these trucks out of warranty. So that being the case it boils down to cost per mile or return on investment, atleast for those of us not looking for another hobby. And looking at it from that standpoint the Dodge wins clearly in a 24 month program. No I'm not a Dodge guy, I'm a financially conscious businessman looking for a work truck.

The wifes Tahoe (our 3rd) will be replaced by the new Toyota 4dr. diesel as soon as it arives.

GM has made a huge error in treating this market segment like they do the others. For the most part this socio demographic will pay GM's cost to own a product we like or choose to support. Continuing to subsidize their miserable business model and bad financial decisions has been made even worse by their "in your face" attitude toward a "customer NO service policy" that has become intreched in their business operation.

What's wrong with the Tahoe? We are seriously considering one of those to replace my wife's Toyota Excab 4x4 pickup.................
None of the big three are what they are represented to be. I will not own one of these trucks out of warranty. So that being the case it boils down to cost per mile or return on investment, atleast for those of us not looking for another hobby. And looking at it from that standpoint the Dodge wins clearly in a 24 month program. No I'm not a Dodge guy, I'm a financially conscious businessman looking for a work truck.

The wifes Tahoe (our 3rd) will be replaced by the new Toyota 4dr. diesel as soon as it arives.

GM has made a huge error in treating this market segment like they do the others. For the most part this socio demographic will pay GM's cost to own a product we like or choose to support. Continuing to subsidize their miserable business model and bad financial decisions has been made even worse by their "in your face" attitude toward a "customer NO service policy" that has become intreched in their business operation.

I bought a 06 f*rd and towed at #21,000 grose in july and august through nevada in our hottest summer on record and never once did it even try to over heat even on the steepest hills. I missed my 99 chevy z-71 half ton for the comfort of the leather seats and since my wife totaled my 06 f*rd I was looking at the 06 gmc but from the looks of it that seems to be a very bad move

vegas kid, the 06 is an unknown quantity as of right now. Hopefully it will be GM's star in the diesel battle. Wait it out and hopefully it will be worth it!

My 04.5 with many mods has never overheated either. Last weekend I pulled my fsc3200 to Pismo up the tipical 7.5% grades, eng temp slowly reached about 220, fan came on and took it down to the normal 198 in no time. I was able to keep my exhaust gas temp at a mear 1260-1280 the entire grade at about 55 mph and half throttle not even pushin it. Some times I wonder if there arent some guys out there who think if they buy a diesel pickup they are somehow invincible and have some sort of super truck, juice it to hell and pound those hills? I can pull my 12500lb trailer any speed I need to, without to much effort. Sure maybe there are some good cases with stock trucks, but seems most posted as overheated are modified and have drivers with heavy feet. Maybe the mods Ive done have helped the problem before I noticed since I did most in the first week of its existence. Any thoughts guys.

This in reply to Vegas kid wantin a Ford....Youll be sorry pickin up a ford. Every person I know with a diesel ford of any year in the powerstroke era has had problems. And I mean many problems. Im not saying this because Im just another diehard GM owner, I actually am very pleased with my decision with both my dmaxs, ive had no problems with either, my clients and friends with powerstrokes are always rebuilding trannys,changing turbos, injectors, transfercases, and in more than a few cases changing motors several times throughout the life the truck. IF you buy a GM you wont be sorry.

Davedan there seems to be a lot of people that bought GM dmax's and are very sorry that they did so. Seems to me that his Ford did a good job till it was wrecked. I can only go by my own experience and what I've read here for the last 2 years but there are alot of us that cannot do what our trucks advertised they would do. I certainly would not use a blanket statement like "buy a GM you won't be sorry" I am!

This in reply to Vegas kid wantin a Ford....Youll be sorry pickin up a ford. Every person I know with a diesel ford of any year in the powerstroke era has had problems. And I mean many problems. Im not saying this because Im just another diehard GM owner, I actually am very pleased with my decision with both my dmaxs, ive had no problems with either, my clients and friends with powerstrokes are always rebuilding trannys,changing turbos, injectors, transfercases, and in more than a few cases changing motors several times throughout the life the truck. IF you buy a GM you wont be sorry.

My personal experience is 180 degrees opposite from yours (as are the friends that have both PSD Fords)... My Chevy's have had problems, working well within their rated capacities, and the Fords I've had laugh at the heavy work. My guess is I'd have been happier with the '06 dmax, since they've (aparently) fixed many of the O/H issues, but that don't help me now....

I also am one to spend my fixed-income dollars wisely, and wouldn't be brand loyal to any brand that proves to be a bad value (or not up to the task). I'm sure I'll get this O/H thing under control with all the great help from this site, but I won't plan on buying another GM anytime soon after this experience. If more buyers acted this way, how do you think the big three makers would act?! Yup, they'd be workin' their butts off when there was problems, instead of sidestepping.... :mad:

Sold mine and took a hit. Lesson learned :)

:cool: Davedan!
My truck is completely stock! I do know how to drive it this is 7th diesel truck since 1999 (1-D***e, 3 - F**d, and 3 Duramax Alli. I put approximately 600 K on the first six without any sign of overheating. 1 starter on the F**d's and nothing on the D***e. The GMC's --02 and 03 both have had complete sets of injectors 03 complete new front steering gear and now my 05 CANNOT stay with a friends F**d even though his load is 4K heavier than mine. YES YOU CAN GO WRONG BUYING A GM VEHICLE. DON'T MAKE STATEMENTS ABOUT OVERHEATERS IF YOU DON'T HAVE ONE!!!!! YOU DON'T KNOW THE FRUSTRATION OF WATCHING THE TEMP GAGE STEADILY CLIMB TO 260.-:t :eek: WITH NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT.

Most of the time I get a choice of what to tow. So I stay in the 8000 # or below range. I agree with the depends on what and where one tows as to whether you have a hot run'n truck or not. The mods listed on this site work and I should have them all done by next summer. The tow'n rags all say how much the mfg. test these trucks for wieght ratings they give. I think GM drop'd the ball on this one. Yes the design works on a gas rig with just a radiator and a/c condenser, but add a aftercooler and things went wrong big time! :exactly:

i noticed too that the lly's fan runs a ton more than my dad's 70hp chipped ever runs. the temperature guage on dad's never moves and if it does ocassionally, the fan kicks on and down it comes. i didn't realize that the lly had that major of an overheat issue. i guess flip a coin as to whether or not the new LBZ will have the same problem. the www.dieselstop.com has had a lot of it's members have all kinds of problems with fords. i do know that. just remember the grass isn't always greener on the other side.

some people tow too much weight.. that seem to have alot to do with it and by the way there is an investigation ongoing . first step of new tsb dated sept 30 2005 is to check for any non oem intake or eng parts, I think that will include programmers. not sure.or grills and take them off. should get interesting.

Truck is rated to pull 16K. Yet engine coolent temperature hits 230 with OAT of 88 and pulling a measly 7k

I am currently working with BBB and lemon law buy back. It does not look prommising. GMC customer assistance has offered me an extended warrenty. Two weeks ago they told my dealer not to work on my truck as nothing is wrong with it. This week I got a call from GMC customer assistance center again telling me they now want the dealer to look at it again.

If GMC and or the Dealer do not fix my truck, or buy it back then they have lost a customer for life. This is my 7th 1-ton truck, it is the biggest and most expensive POS I have ever owned. My 01 Duramax was the best, it did everything better than this 05 POS. I have purchased 13 new GM products since 82, and have 4 in the driveway now. I have only purchased 1 non GM since 82. However if they do not fix or buy my truck I will never own another GM. I will also sell every GM I currently have. They will be replaced with Toyota or Honda.

Toyota is working on a 1 ton diesel truck now. Should hit the market by 07 or 08.

If you guys truly want GM to take notice you need to get organized. You must get a group together. 1 at a time will not help anybody except GM. Please post your info on the thread below so we have some numbers and proof.

http://dieselplace.com/forum/showthread.php?t=46107

Some of us attempted to do just that, get organized, and were scoffed at. Some of us saw this coming from EXPERIENCE. FLSTI Dave...my sentiments exactly!

Some of us attempted to do just that, get organized, and were scoffed at. Some of us saw this coming from EXPERIENCE. FLSTI Dave...my sentiments exactly!

I'm not talking about a class action lawsuit yet. I'm talking about being able to prove the problem exists and that they knew about it. If at that point it takes a lawsuit so be it. So you guys have all posted your info on that thread?

I'm not talking about a class action lawsuit yet. I'm talking about being able to prove the problem exists and that they knew about it. If at that point it takes a lawsuit so be it. So you guys have all posted your info on that thread?

Yep I have posted all me information on that thread.

I just turn the fuel down a bit when towing, and have no heat problems.

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Some does not apply 100% , Mine does not overheat now , combo of my own work from DP advice and Chevy's help , at this point I would like to get a 06 as my confidence in this truck is shaken from all the Oheats B4 the mods , I have a warrenty to 89608 Miles /Feb 08 and am at 81238 when I got home tonight and have to go Las Vegas /Seattle /south Florida and back to LV next week I believe this will finish it off , I will be at the dealer Hot and Heavy this week!!!