I wanted to start another thread rather than continuing to discuss the BS in a thread involving another product.

Present application is 04.5-05 Duramax LLY only. Time will tell on the 2006 model.

Due to demand I will be listing the Boost Stick on my site today for pre-orders. It is far more efficient if orders are placed thru my online store. They will not ship until I receive them (obviously) and would prefer not to field questions as to availability as this just eats up more time. The listing will be under Dmax Perf/LLY/Boost stick. We expect to begin shipping the first week(s) of October.

At this point there are no instructions ready or product images, but install is plug/play basically. It's a bit tricky to access the plug, but nothing that cannot be done with reasonable skill. Personally I unlock and pull the OE connector up to where it is accessible. I then fish the BS (or extension) connector down and plug into the sensor. To do this I use a long skinny screwdriver or a stiff wire. Others have reported that you can remove of the AC compressor from it's mounts and swing it out of the way for easier access.

As for the GM waranty issue, we'll have a simple extension available. If you fish the extension into place and pull the OE harness up, both connections will be accessible and you can add/remove the BS in a matter of seconds.

We have chosen to make the Boost Stick non adjustable for two reasons. The first is utter simplicity and the second is that it is far too easy to push the turbo too far. This can create excessive drive (back) pressures and can be counterproductive...


At this point in time we will have units for Federal emissions vehicles which can be identified by the FE9 on the RPO tag in the glove box. This product may set a DTC P2227 for baro sensor performance. This is a simple code that typically does not illuminate the SES light or call for any corrective action on FEDERAL trucks.

CA and Northeast emissions are still in testing. We encountered a DTC that we feel we have covered, but want to be certain.

i would like to be added to this list, and there is a typo on your page for the "LL7" heh


here is a copy/paste:
|| Duramax LLY - Duramax Performance || Boost Control - LL7 - Dmax Performance

Yeah, my web guy made the typo in the directory. I have him correcting it. I handle all the listings, but he does the directories and the coding etc.

I'd also like to add that I would prefer Email rather than PM as the PM system has limited capacity, and email is far easier to manage.

I saw the listing for the BS, but ther was not an option to purchase or pre-order. Do we just need to e-mail you?

Also, For those of us with CA trucks, should we wait until there is a CA-emmissions specific BS or will this one work?

Thanks!!

I hadn't realized the beta units were turning on the MIL light on the CA trucks till today. I have made an adjustment to the BS design to fix this, but will have to wait till an actual CA truck tries it before I claim victory. I get no codes at all on my federal 4.5 LLY now.

No lights for me, except Green! Great job guys!!

I'll try the new one for the ca truck!!

Can't wait to get one.

I would like to be added to this list but my Ca truck is a LB7.

I would like to be added to this list but my Ca truck is a LB7.

This is only for LLY engines, this fools the VVT turbo into making more boost.

i would like to order it but there is nothing to click on the site just says back order

Ok, so I will be fine with regular finger stick?

Ok, so I will be fine with regular finger stick?

Boost Stick? ( I knew that name was going to cause me trouble...)

Guys please give me a bit to finish the listing, correct the typos and answer the phone as well as chat here while I'm doing all of this.

I'll need to generate a note so peoplewill not get PO'd when their order doesn't ship same day etc, and then I'll release the back order. The only other alternative that I had was Call for Price and that would tie me up worse.

Orders placed will be processed as Sales Orders. They will remani as sales orders on our computer system until product arrives. Once product arrives they can be filled in the order received.

On Edit: Opened up!

Should those of us with CA emissions trucks go ahead and pre-order or should we wait?

Yes, just note that you have CA emissions in the customers comments so IF there is a CA specific release we can be sure to get the correct unit.

Ok, great! I just noted that I had a CA emissions truck in the shipping notes section.

Thanks!!!

i love stuff

I get no codes at all on my federal 4.5 LLY now.

Including the P2229 baro code?

I've cured that

Ok, so I will be fine with regular finger stick?

You don't need (AND CAN'T USE) either the boost stick or finger stick.

They are both for LLY truck ONLY.

hey john should we go ahead and go to your site add them to are cart and pay for them. and at that time let you know if it is a california truck or should we just e-mail you that we want one first????

Yes, just note that you have CA emissions in the customers comments so IF there is a CA specific release we can be sure to get the correct unit.

And I'll add that Sales orders are NOT charged until they ship so please do not assume the card has already been run when you check your balance.

Boost Stick? ( I knew that name was going to cause me trouble...) Boost Stick? That is what I said?):h

One other thing I meant to point out is that those who are reading boost via the datastream (Edge Attitude, Banks Dynafact?) will NOT actually "see" the increased boost as the ECM data is being altered. A mechanical boost gauge will be required to actually "see" the increased boost.

I knew there was a reason I installed the SD manifold and bought my gauges from KD. :)

Jim

oh yhanks john i didn't even think about the edge not reading but thats right we are fooling the computer and i still need to call you about those lift pumps and ask some question well talk to you soon
rob

I hadn't realized the beta units were turning on the MIL light on the CA trucks till today. I have made an adjustment to the BS design to fix this, but will have to wait till an actual CA truck tries it before I claim victory. I get no codes at all on my federal 4.5 LLY now.
Can your Boost Stick be used with any of the other tunning devices, such as the Predator, Edge and the Bulldog?

Can your Boost Stick be used with any of the other tunning devices, such as the Predator, Edge and the Bulldog?

Yes it can. In fact it enhances most tunes. It works very well with the Edge Juice and the Pedator 2.0 tunes. We don't have a lot of data on the PPE by itself, but that seems to work out well also. The real gear heads are stacking the VA with the PPE and doing well.

nice job! and a bargain.

On a totally stock LLY will there be a noticable change, ie. fuel mileage, response off the line, response on the highway.

for the boost stick to work correctly will i need to send in my edge juice for the upgrade? or will it work fine the way it is version 1.1

geo - you will probably see nice benefits on a stocker when not hauling in each of the areas you are interested in. Put a load on it and that might not be the case. (according to Fingers and check out RDL's posts)

Too little data at this point to say much more than "probably;" you could contribute to the body of knowledge by running one on a stocker and reporting your results.......

well my truck is stock except the egr delete and i order so when it comes in i will post.

So their will be no LB7 upgrade available? This just makes the turbo spool up faster? Does it make it whine more too?

First, I am on the road again for business. So I may not get the chance to answer all questions in a timely manner. With luck, I'll be back home in 2-3 weeks.

Next, the early Juice caps the boost signal. I know there is a harness mod you can do to uncap it so a device like the BS will work, but I am out of my depth on that topic. Email John Kennedy (don't PM him) he might be able to give you guidance.

The BS is intended for the LLY engines. These engines use the boost signal to regulate boost via the ECM and turbo vanes. There is little, if any, gain to be had on the LB7. The LB7 has a waste gate design that uses boost pressure directly to actuate the waste gate w/o electronics.

Lastly, from the feedback that Rick Lance gave me, I have toned down the BS to keep it from coding and to let it work better with a stock tune. Even so, a stock tune does not fuel enough to make use of the additional air. Stock empty, you will probably see MPG gains and lower EGTs, but loaded it will not work out as well.

As always, I am open to all feedback good and bad. It is nice to know what I did right and were people are having problems.

Did he say he toned it down based on my feedback? He don't know me very well, does he!:):):)

Great product. No Duramax should be without it!! Thanks again Fingers!!

Kennedy, when do you think the first ones will be shipped

Juice 1.0 needs to be updated to V1.2.

Fingers would be the one to ask on ETA, but soon...

On edit: I have a call into Fingers and will know shortly how many are coming in the first batch and when they should arrive.

looks like he is traveling again

Shipment due in Wednesday. Will try to ship Wednesday.

I've got mine on order! Ordered it today!

John,
Approximately how many orders do you have vs. how many BS you have coming in?

Just curious if my late order would make it out the door on Wed?

I am pretty new to the game and wondering if the BS is something that you can do to a truck that is still stock or if this is something that should be done afterwards? If so- where does it fall in the line of mods?

that is cool...i am personally in rush just wanted to know when the money was going to be taken out

Sticks are here, and ready to ship Thursday. There were just too darn many to get done and the shipment arrived mid afternoon. Most should be on 2 (or less) day schedule with Priority Mail so Saturday is likely ETA...

that makes me happy......dont forget my extension i ordered today....

Just ordered mine, now I have to wait.

Looks like all orders placed as of Wed will be covered with this batch. We have another batch in the works for next week.

awsome

Kennedy,

Please let us know when the Ca sticks become available.

As of today (Thursday) all orders have shipped regardless of emissions code. Fingers has tuned the stick so it should be universally compatible w/o setting codes. We are presently out of stock, but should have plenty more on hand next week some time...

Just got confirmation from UPS that mine is on the way...im like a little kid...i think ive checked the mail box 3 times already and i got the email half an hour ago. are there any install instructions or pics that are going to be posted in the forseable future? couldnt hurt and provides peace of mind too.
thanks

Just got confirmation from UPS that mine is on the way...im like a little kid...i think ive checked the mail box 3 times already and i got the email half an hour ago. are there any install instructions or pics that are going to be posted in the forseable future? couldnt hurt and provides peace of mind too.
thanks
I can't wait until I read your feedback and how you are utlizing your BS.

OBTW, what tuner are you running?

Later,

Your pal

Melvin

I am running the predator on 85. If I go to the track I turn it up to 100. I will definitely see how the boost stick effects the truck on both the 85 and the 100 and will post my findings. 'till then

i am running a stock truck with egr blocked

I am running the predator on 85. If I go to the track I turn it up to 100. I will definitely see how the boost stick effects the truck on both the 85 and the 100 and will post my findings. 'till then
Have you done any transmission mods yet? I have been afraid to go over 65 hp because I was afraid the transmission would not hold up. Also, I am getting great fuel mileage at 65 hp.:D

OBTW, post your ET's next time you are at the track.:exactly:

I have not done any transmission mods as of yet, however they are something than I fully anticipate doing in the near future, out of both desire and neccesity(sp?). I have limped it on the 100hp 3 times and on the 85hp 1 time. As for track times, my best is 14.891 at 87.93mph. I think this is awfully slow but then again I had the tool box full of tools and its pretty hot here too. Ive had great 60' times though, my best being1.72 and my worst being 2.24. Some reaction times are .095, .117, and .143.

we should try not to hijack this thread as that is rude, but feel free to start a new thread or pm me if you want to discuss this more.

thanks
jake

Fingers and Kennedy...

I have the Predator at the 85hp setting now; can I simply install the BS when it arrives or do I need to return to stock and then go back up?

Please advise.

Thanks! Can't wait to try it out!

Just plug it in and go.

Fingers and Kennedy...

I have the Predator at the 85hp setting now; can I simply install the BS when it arrives or do I need to return to stock and then go back up?

Please advise.

Thanks! Can't wait to try it out!

Good question! I want to know too! What do they write in this situation? "bump", or something?

Good question! I want to know too! What do they write in this situation? "bump", or something?

I think ttt is what they put here.

The suspense is killing me....I want my stick before Saturday!!!! The race starts at 9am....maybe I'll wait here for it. Maybe my wife will bring it to the track for me. Maybe it will show up tomorrow! Did I mention....The suspense is killing me??

The new toys!!

I WANT SOME PICS!!!!!!!!

A couple pics can be found at http://www.simpersupply.com/chad/2005%20Truck/Misc/

I didn't think about taking pics until after I was nearly done with the install. I may see if I can take a few more tonight and upload.

you guys are killin me! need to refi to keep up with all the toys

The package is a little different from sp33d's. very similar.

I have gotton varification for shippment but I'm concerned about tunning down of the stick. I'm primarily using the stick for towing. I'm using the edge/attitude and I'm hoping with the stick that I can keep up with Fords and Dodges. I just recently pulled my 30ft toy hauler that weighs about 11k in all the levels of edge/attitude.(don't worry I have guages and ATS tranny,banks exuast with kitty delete).Even on level 5 I could only manage 60mph going up hills that Fords and Dodges are doing 75-80mph up. My EGT's were hot but I have probes placed pre turbo and post turbo. There was about 250degree difference between the two. This truck seems to be a big guttless cow when pulling. Am I going to see a difference in performance with the stick?

Boyd

I have gotton varification for shippment but I'm concerned about tunning down of the stick. I'm primarily using the stick for towing. I'm using the edge/attitude and I'm hoping with the stick that I can keep up with Fords and Dodges. I just recently pulled my 30ft toy hauler that weighs about 11k in all the levels of edge/attitude.(don't worry I have guages and ATS tranny,banks exuast with kitty delete).Even on level 5 I could only manage 60mph going up hills that Fords and Dodges are doing 75-80mph up. My EGT's were hot but I have probes placed pre turbo and post turbo. There was about 250degree difference between the two. This truck seems to be a big guttless cow when pulling. Am I going to see a difference in performance with the stick?

Boyd
bsanders, the stick will help. My guess is you have the edge backing down the power at the preset egt warning. I have seen a huge drop in EGT with the BS, ( about the same as removing the cat), and an increase in power about equal to the next higher setting on the chip. Just start low and play. Some of the cooling mods may also help you.

Boyd

Please call me. been trying to get ahold of you.

I know someone that is going out in his driveway to install his recently recieved boost stick. If he okays it, I'll tell ya how it works!

First off, I want to thank Mr. Kennedy for his help last Friday installing his dual lift pumps and pick up, mega filter, and yes.......a boost stick. I am running the PPE Hot on 90 HP with the edge 5/5 and it is quite impressive and IMO, it stacks extremely well. We'll see what's wrong with Duratothemax's truck before I go any further with that. Anyway, lower EGT's, less smoke, and quicker spool up. More noticeable on the highway, especially towing. You will love the high pitch turbo whine even when cruising - it's not too loud. For the price, you can't beat it.

John, we'll discuss my commission later.

Still looking for some Banks stickers!

Forest Lake-- Good to see someone running the exact same stack I am! Ever since I have installed the twin KD pumps, I have not had ANY 1093 troubles. Actually I threw one 1093, but I was VERY low on fuel (like 26 miles range left according to DIC and low fuel light was on). The problems I have been having with the truck throwing codes are unrelated I am 99% sure. Tons of P0089 and P0090 codes. Most likely my fuel rail pressure regulator is crapping out. Not the releif valve, just the regulator. Once I get my Tech 2 on wednesday, Ill just keep it constantly connected to the truck and see if I can notice lots of fluctuations between commanded rail PSI and actual rail PSI. Then Ill know for sure what is wrong...good to hear that the stack is working well for you! I would try the PPE at a higher tune (130hp, or maybe even the 240 extreme tune), but until I rebuild my tranny over thanksgiving break, its not a good idea :)

---Ben

Duratothemax,

Don't tempt me.

i hope mine shipped USPS because i should get it on saturday...i got notifactionbut the money is gone

I have gotton varification for shippment but I'm concerned about tunning down of the stick. I'm primarily using the stick for towing. I'm using the edge/attitude and I'm hoping with the stick that I can keep up with Fords and Dodges. I just recently pulled my 30ft toy hauler that weighs about 11k in all the levels of edge/attitude.(don't worry I have guages and ATS tranny,banks exuast with kitty delete).Even on level 5 I could only manage 60mph going up hills that Fords and Dodges are doing 75-80mph up. My EGT's were hot but I have probes placed pre turbo and post turbo. There was about 250degree difference between the two. This truck seems to be a big guttless cow when pulling. Am I going to see a difference in performance with the stick?

Boyd
Boyd I can not speak for your situation, but I have never had issues with pulling my 10k camping trailer up one of the big passes here in CA. Even stock I can hold 65... I have found that even with my foot to the floor, the transmission will not shift out of OD. Once I manually lockout OD, I get plenty of power to pass and climb (stock). Now that I have the Juice/Attitude, I can pass most setups going up Cajon Pass. I am not sure the grade you are climbing, but I am sure some of the other SoCal members can attest to it. 4th gear tops out at 75MPH.

CSCOMAN,


I wish that was the case with me! I can't go up a hill at all in 5th gear. Some of the hills I have been climbing are 6to7% grade,pretty normal around here. My Mpg is usually around 7 that sucks too.

Boyd

soooooooo, anybody have any test results on BS?

My seat of the pants test says the stick gave me more power w/ my edge juice on 5/5. I'll test it at the track tomorrow. I did a 0-speed limiter (97MPH) run and could not get the egt's over 1300. I could have got over 1300 before 65MPH without the stick. I didn't notice anymore turbo whine at highway speeds. Maybe the cat-delete, exhaust, and 33" tires make too much noise, but I didn't hear anything different. This stick is worth every penny and more! John Kennedy's fast shipping was a plus too!

bobo, keep us informed!!

My seat of the pants test says the stick gave me more power w/ my edge juice on 5/5. I'll test it at the track tomorrow. I did a 0-speed limiter (97MPH) run and could not get the egt's over 1300. I could have got over 1300 before 65MPH without the stick. I didn't notice anymore turbo whine at highway speeds. Maybe the cat-delete, exhaust, and 33" tires make too much noise, but I didn't hear anything different. This stick is worth every penny and more! John Kennedy's fast shipping was a plus too!

Do you have before/after peak boost and EGT numbers? These will need to be from a hard plumbed gauge as the Attitude is optimistic, plus all devices monitoring databus will be skewed.


I've seen just across 30 to maybe 31 running strong fueling. No concerns about Jon turning it back, it was a GOOD thing. Haven't had a lot of time as I've been doing shop time on Fridays (ForestLake's last weekend and an LB7 twin pump plus dyno and a lot more this weekend) but the brief drive told me smoother and stronger than previous version...

So where do i plug this thing into and where does the other side plug into? ANybody got any pics or useful tips before i **** something up?

So where do i plug this thing into and where does the other side plug into? ANybody got any pics or useful tips before i **** something up?

Yeah! What he said!

i am going to install mine right now and will take some pictures

Cool, ok i got it, its right behind the ac compressor, i couldnt figure out how the extension would work, but you have to fish the passenger side connector up to top... then plug the boost stick into that and then the ext down to the drivers side connector. Look at the pics mcrat posted they helped alot.

All i gotta say is that my truck PULLS HARD now. Level 3 on the hypertech, straight pipes, finger and boost sitck and egr blocker.

Jon, John or Rick, what kind of boost does the program demand running empty steady speed? Is it near stock?

Would just like an idea of the algorithm from stock, when not under load, since it is not adjustable.

Any future thoughts, Jon, on a BS with "jumpers" or some type of non-cockpit (safer) adjustability?

Oh, and of course. OUTSTANDING job! I give it "innovation of the year" Fingers.

i cant find it. i know to look behind the compressor but i must be missing something. do i have to pull the compressor out fo the way or maybe the intake. any pictures

brianteel, I removed the compressor, but even then it is down in the valley a little ways. It is on the manifold that bolts to the inside of the head.

so what do you suggest getting it on there

After I removed the compressor it was fairly easy. I used needle nose pliers and a long thin screwdriver. JK says he can do it with a piece of wire.

I got mine on. Had to remove the AC compressor...where can I get it recharged? (just kidding ):h)

Once the compressor was moved out of the way, you better have some patience, because it's a mutha to get installed. I had to take a couple of breaks due to frustration...

It's on now, and I'll post my results tomorrow after I take a ride.

-JJ:cool2:

well mine wont be going in for a while. oh well

I ran a 14.1 w/ Edge and a Boost stick today at Union Grove Dragway. I can't get my EGT's over 1300 w/ a boost stick installed and Edge on 5/5.

Very Nice bobo!!! Stock tranny?

Very Nice bobo!!! Stock tranny?

Nope...I have a built trans now. I am an idiot for not running a few runs without the boost stick and getting some numbers. Sorry guys!

I see your tranny stuff now. Sorry. Did you get the harness kit? If so next time maybe you can run with and without the BS.

I got the harness...it wil be very easy to unplug and I am stupid for not trying it.:(:badidea: :mad:

I got the harness...it wil be very easy to unplug and I am stupid for not trying it.:(:badidea: :mad:

Not Stupid, just having FUN!!!

That's impressive and way cool!

I guess my EGT issues are near being solved. With my current setup (no extra boost and stock exhaust), I can hit 1300 degrees easily!

Thanks for the positive results.

So where do i plug this thing into and where does the other side plug into? ANybody got any pics or useful tips before i **** something up?

thread #63 by sp33d. couple pics. Looks like it is deep in the valley.

Jim

I've checked KD's site, but I'm still not exactly clear what this boost stick does. Anybody care to elaborate, because I'm always a sucker for more power/mileage.

I will do up a good pictoral instruction set when I get back home. It was on my list to do before I left, but got sidelined when I ran out of time.

The Boost Senor on the LLY is located on the driver's side intake manifold. It is a biatch to get to. If you look straight down past the metal coolant outlet pipe on top of the engine, you can see the connector deep down. Removing the resonator (the plastic thing with 6.6 DuraMax stamped on it) assists seeing and working with the connectors. Loosening the fan belt and removing the four bolts holding the A/C compressor in place allows you to get to it from the front. I strongly suggest the extension JK sells.

Once you have identified the target, it is just a matter of unpluging the sensor from the harness and putting the stick between the sensor and the harness. The connectors are keyed, so you are hard pressed to plug them into the wrong place. JK used a stiff wire and I used two long screwdrivers. Whatever works for you.

I've checked KD's site, but I'm still not exactly clear what this boost stick does. Anybody care to elaborate, because I'm always a sucker for more power/mileage.

The Boost stick increases the boost on the LLY.

How does it achieve more boost?

How does it achieve more boost?


Read post #9 in this thread.

As for the GM waranty issue, we'll have a simple extension available.

Is the Boost Stick detectable when taken in for service? Or can a Tech 2 "See" that data has been altered as quoted below?

One other thing I meant to point out is that those who are reading boost via the datastream (Edge Attitude, Banks Dynafact?) will NOT actually "see" the increased boost as the ECM data is being altered. A mechanical boost gauge will be required to actually "see" the increased boost.

If it's not detectable, I'm not too concerned with removing it for a "non-problem" servicing. I realize if a technician physically sees it, the cat's out of the bag. :eek:

Has anyone looked at the filter minder? What is it reading after a WOT run using the BS? (Stock intakes and filters please.)

Holy SHT! Got my BS installed yesterday and didn't drive it until today. Very noticable difference in power via the butt dyno. Part throttle response is also much improved. The boost is there NOW. I can also hear it whistling at me at 30mph just cruising thru town no load.

I know there is a power increase because my Allison is shifting funny again, like it does when you go up a power level.

this was all on the 65 hp Predator.

Nice product Fingers! Well worth the wait! (But the install was a mutha fugga...) :)

Any word on this working on the 06 LLY's?

Any word on this working on the 06 LLY's?

It "should" work with the '06 too. The boost sensor is in a different (easier to get to) location so you shouldn't need the extension for on and off.

Anyone have a '06 in the Pittsburgh area? I need to borrow it for an hour or so......):h

Come to think of it, I am in southern CT right now. Anyone around here?

Wasted, could you go read the filter minder for me?

Just curious.

Is the Boost Stick detectable when taken in for service? Or can a Tech 2 "See" that data has been altered as quoted below?



If it's not detectable, I'm not too concerned with removing it for a "non-problem" servicing. I realize if a technician physically sees it, the cat's out of the bag. :eek:

I wouldn't worry about minor service. The ECM is none the wiser. However, for more in depth analysis the Tech might notice the higher commanded vane position for a given boost command or the high MAF readings. The BS does not show up directly.

When in doubt, take it out.

Has anyone looked at the filter minder? What is it reading after a WOT run using the BS? (Stock intakes and filters please.)

Yes, I had to change my filter though it looked perfect. Maybe 6000 miles on it. No issue now. Mine is totally stock. Which reminds me, I need to check it again.......

It "should" work with the '06 too. The boost sensor is in a different (easier to get to) location so you shouldn't need the extension for on and off.

Anyone have a '06 in the Pittsburgh area? I need to borrow it for an hour or so......):h

Come to think of it, I am in southern CT right now. Anyone around here?

I'll take one as soon as you know for sure... :D
The 06 changed the turbo output slightly, right?

I've never seen the filter minder budge on the stock LLY box with a clean filter. I have seen the 2001 box suck the minder though, and also have seen where removing the foil allows water in and sets SES light for MAF (hint hint)

Quote from an unnamed individual:

"Also, one another problem, every since I pulled the foil shield on my passenger front fender to give more air flow to the airbox, I keep getting P0102 and P0103 codes according to my bullydog power pup everytime we have wet weather or wash my wheel wells."

just installed my bs this morning, power wise i think it helped a bit spool up was much improved between shifts but the big + was the egt drop with edge on 4/5 and pred on 65 i really had to push the truck to get anything over 1350deg:ro) cant wait to hook to the trailer!!!!
anyone else tried the stick on a zf yet?

Very happy!!
ThanxC.B.

I caught your hint John. I will be ordering a new foil cover monday.

Wasted, could you go read the filter minder for me?

Just curious.

It's probably a moot point, since I'm running a 2002 5.3 gasser box with the fender foil out right now. I haven't had any problems in the rain...I don't think I'm gonna worry about it anytime soon, since the rain will be solidifying here right quick...:idea:

If you are running 30 psi, on only an unmodified gas box, that is not good, IMO. It is safe to say you are at 100%. Now I see why you say it is a moot point.

I will do up a good pictoral instruction set when I get back home. It was on my list to do before I left, but got sidelined when I ran out of time.

The Boost Senor on the LLY is located on the driver's side intake manifold. It is a biatch to get to. If you look straight down past the metal coolant outlet pipe on top of the engine, you can see the connector deep down. Removing the resonator (the plastic thing with 6.6 DuraMax stamped on it) assists seeing and working with the connectors. Loosening the fan belt and removing the four bolts holding the A/C compressor in place allows you to get to it from the front. I strongly suggest the extension JK sells.

Once you have identified the target, it is just a matter of unpluging the sensor from the harness and putting the stick between the sensor and the harness. The connectors are keyed, so you are hard pressed to plug them into the wrong place. JK used a stiff wire and I used two long screwdrivers. Whatever works for you.

Ok, I love performance, but I'm very leary when it comes to wrenchin'. If I were to order the extension, is it still necessary to remove the compressor?

it can be done without doing that. although removing 4 bolts is not too bad

Just a quick note on transmission capabilities: The Boost stick makes the Edge run like it is set one full level highre so when in doubt err in moderation on your fueling choices. Lean on it hard with the Juice or EZ in level 3 (with BS of course) and your transmission may or may not like it. A lot depends on transmission condition and engine output...

I'd also like to thank you guys (both past and future orders) for using my online store for order placement. It sure saves me a ton of phone calls and writers cramp!

Just ordered mine.. It will be used with a Superchips programmer.
Thanks, Ricky...seeya...

I have the PPE it is set at 130 what kind of benefit will i see with this added on?
Thanks
JCAST

Yes it can. In fact it enhances most tunes. It works very well with the Edge Juice and the Pedator 2.0 tunes. We don't have a lot of data on the PPE by itself, but that seems to work out well also. The real gear heads are stacking the VA with the PPE and doing well.

See above

If you are running 30 psi, on only an unmodified gas box, that is not good, IMO. It is safe to say you are at 100%. Now I see why you say it is a moot point.

80% when I went out to look at it last night. Swapped back over to the stock 05 box (fender foil removed), and after, oh I don't know...10 or so WOT runs on the way to and from work, the minder hadn't moved.

Seemed to have more power on top, too...I wonder why... ):h

80% when I went out to look at it last night. Swapped back over to the stock 05 box (fender foil removed), and after, oh I don't know...10 or so WOT runs on the way to and from work, the minder hadn't moved.

Seemed to have more power on top, too...I wonder why... ):h

Good report. I am sure you figured it out by now but I'll venture an attempt to explain. I know the gas box openings provides around 10-20 inches of water resistance on a stock WOT run (approx 20 psi). That should jump to around 40 inches (ballpark) at 30 psi. That is equivalent to 2 psi on a turbo gauge. IOW, the turbo will have to do 30 psi of work but will only deliver 28 psi worth of air, and it will be hotter. That would be your SOTP discrepancy and performance loss.

Modify the gasser box to flow with less restriction (perform this DIY PROJECT (http://dieselplace.com/forum/showthread.php?t=44278&highlight=deux)), and that advantage is returned to you.

On to BS about the BS...

Have the CA and NE emissions guys received and tested theirs yet? Most should have landed Saturday, but today being a Postal Holiday will put the rest off until Monday...er uh Tuesday

On to BS about the BS...

Have the CA and NE emissions guys received and tested theirs yet? Most should have landed Saturday, but today being a Postal Holiday will put the rest off until Monday...


er Tuesday, i think you mean. i've got mine on order as of this weekend. since it seems i may have my BS before my E w/ A arrives, i may be good for some ca stocker testing.

i've got the BS, FS, EGR plate, txchris air box mod, E w/ A, and mbrp exhaust all on order. just got one of two orders from john today. thanks BTW. since i'm a ca emissions rig and bone stock, any preference on what to put in first, second, etc........ or do we not care.:D

can't wait to get my CA edition.

kennedy - maybe this will wake my Hypertech ey?

Thanks KB, I've been lurking a bit in the OH threads and have read most what you said (from your past posts ):h)

*ACTUAL BOOST STICK QUESTION*

Will the BS affect my high idle at all? I've high idled it a couple of times (for the heck of it) after the BS install, and I seem to be able to hear turbo whistle at (high)idle. Almost sounds like it's making boost under *no* load.

Experts enter thoughts here:

Limited testing with the Hypertech. Yea, it will perk it up, but it is not the box that the Edge, Predator or PPE are for instance. (did I forget any?)

I have not tested with the high idle. I can't see it having a negative affect.

You will just sound more like a 747 idling on the tarmac than usual. :)

Courious about using the Boost Stick at High Altitude 9600+ ft. I spend some time in the mountains with this now for stock truck. On acceleration from idle (stopped at light) you wonder if it will clear the intersection but after the turbo kicks in it will set you in the seat and throw a black spew of fuel out the exhaust. Wow what a great feeling.

So as I was asking will the Boost Stick cause too muck boost at high altitude?

considering the air is less dense up high i think you would want even more boost anyway to make up for the alitiude.....correct me if i am wrong

Courious about using the Boost Stick at High Altitude 9600+ ft. I spend some time in the mountains with this now for stock truck. On acceleration from idle (stopped at light) you wonder if it will clear the intersection but after the turbo kicks in it will set you in the seat and throw a black spew of fuel out the exhaust. Wow what a great feeling.

So as I was asking will the Boost Stick cause too muck boost at high altitude?

That has been the topic of several discussions, online and off. :)

My take is it will not be an issue and will in fact help. However, nothing is going to improve the off idle response at altitude. The ECM is not commanding any boost.

On to BS about the BS...

Have the CA and NE emissions guys received and tested theirs yet? Most should have landed Saturday, but today being a Postal Holiday will put the rest off until Monday...er uh Tuesday

got mine Saturday, but alas, was helping my son move this weekend. I will be busy again next weekend. Probably get it in the 17th.

Jim

Will it work on 06 lly??

Has not been tested on the '06 yet.

...nothing is going to improve the off idle response at altitude. The ECM is not commanding any boost.

maybe we can work to understand, if the ecm is allergic to altitude, or the underhood heat (iat) that results, or even something else. Topic for a different thread?

I'd also like to thank you guys (both past and future orders) for using my online store for order placement. It sure saves me a ton of phone calls and writers cramp!

You are welcome... Can't wait 'til the UPS man rolls in the driveway! :shake:

Most if not all are being delivered by Priority Mail vis the Post Man. Fast, economical, and they provide the packaging!

Most if not all are being delivered by Priority Mail vis the Post Man. Fast, economical, and they provide the packaging!

JK, So everyone would know, what is the typical timeframe for delivery once USPS gets their paws on it?

Two days for most, some 3 days. Not guarranteed for time, but very quick and reliable...

Just Ordered My Bs. Looking Forward To It. Thanks Jk & Fingers For All Your Hard Work On This Item.

For all of you that havent installed the Boost Stick.

Life is better if you dismount the a/c compressor. I think GM did one hell of a job hiding that connector.

I have a N/E emitions truck. I got mine on Saturday. Installed on SundayCensored . Been driving around all week with no CEL. I don't know if it's throwing any codes because I have no way to check yet.

Air Man
nhairman@msn.com

I bought a remote grab tool off the tool wagon. Forgot to use it last time though. I can generally do it pretty easily, but last one I tried acouple of times w/o success then the owner (ForrestLake LLY) stepped up and it fell right in for him...

I assume from reading it just plugs in, sounds easy. What about boost? What are the average boost gains?
How much is the BS stick?

Look up one post and click his website....that's where you get it.

I took the inlet off the turbo and then had no problem getting it in there with a screwdriver as an aid. But i kinda regreted crankin the torsion bars cuz i can't reach over the grill now......and i'm 6'4"!!!!
I noticed my edge reads about 21psi when it used to be 24-26 or so. That's some foolin that stick does huh?

-mike

hello all,

I,m tring to get this thing installed and I have the compressore removed and am having some problems locating the right plug. There is a couple of plugs. Everyone says it's deep down but the plug I see isn't that hard to get to and it has a pug extension already on it. Please I need some help.

Boyd

No Instructions?

the plug is gray like the one on the BS. that is the best way to tell. i think it is the only one like that

No Instructions?

no but you only need a picture of where the plug is to really install it.

no but you only need a picture of where the plug is to really install it.

try post 63 of this thread.

Jim

wow that is impressive!!!!!!!!!! I'm running the edge/attitude on 5 with bbost all the up and holy crap. I have a ats tranny with co-pilote set to drag race. No kitty on banks exuast. My truck is 04.5 drw crew cab 4by4. Durring the first test with stick installed I was able to break dualls loose and get the truck sideways on a turn. This was from a dead stop and foot floored. Still a small amount of lag but when the boost kicks in WOW!! I noticed my hard plumbed boost gage went past 35 in a hurry. After the shifts and in 4th gear my boost was still at 30-35psi. My egts seemed to drop about 150 on the top end. Foot to the floor my egt gage was only 1200. It would normally hit 1350 to 1400.


Boyd

No Instructions?

As I said before, I will write it up with pictures when I get back home. Till then, this is what I sent out to the Beta testers......

The MAP is in a bad place. Front driver side of engine, down on the driver's
half of the intake manifold. You can make out the connector if you take off
the intake resonator and look straight down past the water outlet pipe. It
is
reasonably easy to get off with a long screwdriver, but you have to work the
harness side of the connector out where you can get to it to hook up the
boost stick. The coat hanger comes in handy here.

The extension harness will plug back into the MAP and the wires are long
enough to make this reasonably easy. I used a combination of the long
screwdriver and the coat hanger to get it on. Now your set to plug the BS
into the extension harness and then into the engine harness. I would try to
do this on a cold engine. The BS can be removed or installed any time the
ignition is OFF.

Hope this helps

I think I got a decent picture last night while doing an install. Will see how it turns out.

Simple instructions:

Locate boost sensor, and unplug factory connector. Plug extension (recommended) or boost stick into sensor. Plug OE harness connector into boost stick. If you are using an extension, plug boost stick into extension.


Not quite as easy as it sounds, but not entirely too difficult for the average guy either.

I should have my destructions up soon.

Not quite as easy as it sounds, but not entirely too difficult for the average guy either.

No, not difficult at all, just real frustrating trying to get the BS connector started on the MAP sensor.

I used my remote grabby tool and once I got the plug to where I could grab it.

Until then it was like one of those stuffed animal "Skill Crane" games...

I have Banks guages, I assume from the info that because it's tied into the wiring harness it will not read correctly after the install of the BS.
Correct me if I'm wrong. Just ordered one! Can't wait?

Following a tip given to me by Bobo, I removed the two electrical connectors and four bolts attaching the A/C compressor to its bracket, then I swung the A/C compressor up and out of the way leaving enough room to get my fat fingers on the connector.
Thanks Bobo

Anyone getting the map sensor read error code?

I'll check tonight with the Pred. No light for me though.

I'll check tonight with the Pred. No light for me though.

Does the boost stick work well with your Predator? And which version Predator do you have?

Do I need to be concerned about having the BS if/when I go to the stealer? Will this show up on any of their equipment?

I have simple instructions on my site with the product listing.

We have exhausted all stock with the shipment last week, but expect to ship next batch the 19th or 20th.

Does the boost stick work well with your Predator? And which version Predator do you have?

Works awesome. Feels like an additional power level.

I have the V2.0 I believe. At any rate, mine is not the updated one.

I ordered mine the other day. How much boost is too much. And should I limit it at a certain point with the Attitude. Or what should I set the monitor on so it can boost the whole way.
can't wait for more power and lower egt's while towing.

(I should've never gotten my edge updated, the v1.0 used to boost to 32-34 and now I have to pay for those #'s)

I ordered mine the other day. How much boost is too much. And should I limit it at a certain point with the Attitude. Or what should I set the monitor on so it can boost the whole way.
can't wait for more power and lower egt's while towing.

(I should've never gotten my edge updated, the v1.0 used to boost to 32-34 and now I have to pay for those #'s)

The Edge won't limit the boost. The old 1.0 may have made higher boost, but nothing like the BS does. The Edge did nothing to increase intermediate boost levels and then anything over peak boost (stock) was uncontrolled so the turbo never relaxed...

What was the max overshoot seen in testing with other tuners? How was it monitored since the ECM is not aware of the actual boost level.

What is the highest boost numbers you want to see with out being worried about hurting something? (will the edge still show correct boost #'s, if so I can just set the alarm so I know when to back off)
thanks for the advice JK

I'm getting a P0101 code...no SES light...w my Edge v 1.2/Pred V2.02/BS stack....I'l start pulling things off to see if it goes away unstacked. I think it is a mafs warning....maybe from over boost? The stack runs 34psi..over 35psi at shifts.

Kennedy or Fingers...

Can you tell me if I should remove before going to the dealer for work when needed?

Does anybody have any feedback with a stock truck yet? Thanks

:funnypost

Does anybody have any feedback with a stock truck yet? Thanks

http://dieselplace.com/forum/showthread.php?t=44112

Does anybody have any feedback with a stock truck yet? Thanks

who would be that silly? ):h

CURSE THIS SITE!!!!

i just ordered one......):h

this truck is hazardous to my bank account.....

who would be that silly? ):h

For the sake of testing, ME!!):h

CURSE THIS SITE!!!!

i just ordered one......):h

this truck is hazardous to my bank account.....

don't blame it on the truck. It is the confounded internet.

Jim

:exactly:MY truck was fine until i found this site.

:exactly:MY truck was fine until i found this site.
Well, my truck is good and even faster after I found this sight. Therefore, the truck is doing just fine, it's my wallet and banking account that is catching hell.
:lol:

Same deal here.......:ro) :ro) :ro)


Well, my truck is good and even faster after I found this sight. Therefore, the truck is doing just fine, it's my wallet and banking account that is catching hell.
:lol:

i want to install mine.....may be friday

well i have had my boost stick in for a week or so now i love it no codes the throttle responds very well just my mileage has suffered tho due to i can't keep my foot out of it lol ok whats next for more power lol i was hopeing that my trans would last till
mike L is ready i'm not thinking it will tho lol

Had a chance to see if the BS would work on an '06. No Joy. But I learned a lot. Thanks Durarick.

I was surprised how much hunger the '06 people have for mods. The '06 set up looks like a good step in the right direction.

who would be that silly? ):h


):h Trust me if I had the extra money it wouldn't be so stock. Hopefully after the overtime I get this winter keeping the roads clean I can fix that.

Thanks for the Link

dang man, i've been waiting patiently for my BS, FS, and my E w/ A. i've got the egr blocker and the mbrp cat delete pipe collecting dust in the garage.:rant: the suspense is killing me.):h

hey fingers, the FS should prevent any codes that the egr blocker, cat delete pipe, and BS might cause on a CA lly, right? do i have it right?

):h Trust me if I had the extra money it wouldn't be so stock. Hopefully after the overtime I get this winter keeping the roads clean I can fix that.



You'll be waiting a lot longer, we aren't getting any snow this year :mad:

:mad: I couldnt install my BS cause I had to leave for a week before it got here. I got home and it was here and I was so happy and couldnt wait to install it. BUT! My friend called and asked if I wanted to go for a dirtbike ride. We did. I wrecked. Broke 5 ribs and collapsed a lung! No BS install for me for at least another week or so.:(

You'll be waiting a lot longer, we aren't getting any snow this year :mad:

):h No snow? Were do you here such things. I kind of heard that it would be a normal snow with higher temps. So much for catching up on the bills if that is the case

:mad: I couldnt install my BS cause I had to leave for a week before it got here. I got home and it was here and I was so happy and couldnt wait to install it. BUT! My friend called and asked if I wanted to go for a dirtbike ride. We did. I wrecked. Broke 5 ribs and collapsed a lung! No BS install for me for at least another week or so.:(

Let me guess, front end washout? :confused:

so with the juice on levl.5 and the BS will this fry my stock 2wd trans on oem tires?

so with the juice on levl.5 and the BS will this fry my stock 2wd trans on oem tires?

My magic 8 ball says "YES!"

):h No snow? Were do you here such things. I kind of heard that it would be a normal snow with higher temps. So much for catching up on the bills if that is the case

I'm on the ski patrol now so free skiing 4-5 days a week, so I see we aren't going to get any snow now :mad:

My magic 8 ball says "YES!"

How many times did u check the 8 ball?

Since one in a 10,000 trucks are able to run juice level 5 for a while, how do u know he isn't the one?

:lol:

Cause I statistically examined my results in a complex software program designed specifically for this task!

Any other questions? ):h

so with the juice on levl.5 and the BS will this fry my stock 2wd trans on oem tires?

The Juice on 5 alone is too much for the stock transmission primarily in 5th gear. The boost stick makes level 4 perform like level 5 so...

P.S. Big batch of Sticks due in today. Should cover all but the most recent (this week's) orders. We will ship this batch by Thursday and have another batch for stock due in early next week!

How much filter minder change should we see with the boost stick? I did some towing and noticed that the filter minder moved, it had never done that before.

Thanks I needed to hear that i was just going to email you about my boost stick and air filter! LOL :ro)


P.S. Big batch of Sticks due in today. Should cover all but the most recent (this week's) orders. We will ship this batch by Thursday and have another batch for stock due in early next week!

How much filter minder change should we see with the boost stick? I did some towing and noticed that the filter minder moved, it had never done that before.

What air box/filter/filter miles?

Just FYI, a bunch made it out today and the rest of our stock will go tomorrow. More due in for shipment early next week and at this point we should have a little stock. Today Elaine went to the Post Office and droped at the back door the shipment was so large... :eek:

Had a chance to see if the BS would work on an '06. No Joy. But I learned a lot. Thanks Durarick.

I was surprised how much hunger the '06 people have for mods. The '06 set up looks like a good step in the right direction.

A little off topic here, but how about the finger stick?

How much filter minder change should we see with the boost stick? I did some towing and noticed that the filter minder moved, it had never done that before.

I sucked mine in when I started playing with prototypes. Replaced the filter and it has been fine. You will be more sensitive to intake restrictions. So a intake upgrade might be in order.

A little off topic here, but how about the finger stick?

Your right, off topic. I do not have enough info on the '06s yet. They are significantly different in a lot of ways.

Sweet I hope mine when out today! I might get it Sat. Then perfect for the weekend project along with my AMP Steps!!!!! :ro) :ro) :ro)


Just FYI, a bunch made it out today and the rest of our stock will go tomorrow. More due in for shipment early next week and at this point we should have a little stock. Today Elaine went to the Post Office and droped at the back door the shipment was so large... :eek:

What air box/filter/filter miles?

Stock air filter, 6000 miles and a modified "cold air kit".

The air box is using the openings behind the fender and a hole in the front. It is also shrouded from the rest of the underhood area. Filter minder went to ~40% towing heavy last week. I dont consider this bad, is it???

Thanks again to all the folks that have contributed to make these good trucks better.

I'll have to check my filter minder, but with a 23k+ on a Uni foam filter in modified stock box last I checked it hadn't wiggled. If the area that you are shrouding to is too small, it will do this. Air filter restriction may best be dealt with in the air/fuel category. Could be a new topic started or if there is a topic with your particular setup...

No doubt we are moving more air!

Got my BS with extension on the boost sensor (aka. the plug from hell). I am really glad I ordered the extension, so I don't have to do it again for dealer visits. I used it with the Predator v2.00 on 65 empty. Boost is up way earlier, just crusin at 25 mph boost holds at 4 to 5 lbs. turbo whistle is more prounounced. Overall power increase throughout the band is increased significantly. EGT at wot spiked at 1250, which is a great improvement. No codes at all, will check mpg on a trip this weekend. Can't wait to try towing with it. I want to thank Fingers, Kennedy and all the testers for the boost Stick. This is great product at a very reasonable price! I am very pleased.

Dennis

Got my BS with extension on the boost sensor (aka. the plug from hell). I am really glad I ordered the extension, so I don't have to do it again for dealer visits. I used it with the Predator v2.00 on 65 empty. Boost is up way earlier, just crusin at 25 mph boost holds at 4 to 5 lbs. turbo whistle is more prounounced. Overall power increase throughout the band is increased significantly. EGT at wot spiked at 1250, which is a great improvement. No codes at all, will check mpg on a trip this weekend. Can't wait to try towing with it. I want to thank Fingers, Kennedy and all the testers for the boost Stick. This is great product at a very reasonable price! I am very pleased.

Dennis
Very good Dennis. Keep us posted and don't forget to keep track of the gas mileage. I am very impressed with the present gas mileage that I am getting with my Predator set at 65 hp, so pleased that I have been afraid to make a change or to even try any other setting. I sincerely hope that the new boost stick is not detrimental to my mileage.

With my little "claw" gizmo I did the last one in less than 10 minutes...

With my little "claw" gizmo I did the last one in less than 10 minutes...


Now you're just bragging!!!!:devilfing :D

With my little "claw" gizmo I did the last one in less than 10 minutes...

Yeah but you are what they call a professional. The rest of us with a screwdriver and needle nose, have to stand on our heads. Of course I cheated and used a ratchet and removed the A/C compressor. ):h

The one before this gave me a bit of grief, but while I was unkinking my back Dave (Forrest Lake LLY) popped it in like nothing. Of course I had it already fished in and the old plug up and ready.

The mechanical claw works very well!

Yes, it is the connector from he!!. Glad I'm retired so the time it took was not a big issue ):h It was a bit longer than 10 minutes though ... :D even with the use of a ratchet.

Jim

Thanks for all the great info on the board guys. I just bought my Duramax during the sale (my first diesel truck). Loving it so far. Hopefully I will learn enough to help someone else out in the future.

I am interested in the BS but I have not removed the kitty. I noticed many people with similiar configs but the kitty removed. Is there any issue with my config adding the BS and leaving the Kitty on? Or should just remove it first? I was thibking the extra air flow might be a problem backing up...

Thanks

I've had best luck with my full exhaust on these trucks. The dyno plot is on my site. The cat and it's twisting pipe is the major restriction in the system IMHO.

With the BS installed and a boost guage wired in, does the boost gauge read the new improvement or not?
Can't wait to get mine!

With the BS installed and a boost guage wired in, does the boost gauge read the new improvement or not?
Can't wait to get mine!

If it's a mechanical gauge it will be fine, but if it is reading the altered data from teh ECM (an Edge Attitiude for example), it will not read correctly.

Where is the best place to get the reading from on a mechanical boost gauge?

http://www.kennedydiesel.com/dmaxguages.html

I've had best luck with my full exhaust on these trucks. The dyno plot is on my site. The cat and it's twisting pipe is the major restriction in the system IMHO.
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I couldnt find the dyno info about removing the kitty on the web site.
But reading your posts, you seem to know your stuff. I'd like to order the BS and the MBRP cat delete tube, I saw the BS on your web site but not the cat delete - Can I order both from you?

Thanks
Keith

do you need to remove the serpentine belt when removing the AC compressor to get to the BS plug?

I had to in order to get mine on. That belt was a MF'er to get back on too! Perhaps someone more mechanically inclined can describe how you go about loosening the belt and then tightening it again. That would make it much easier. I just muscled it back on. All the scrapes, cuts and crushed fingers are just about healed...:D

Dave

I had to in order to get mine on. That belt was a MF'er to get back on too! Perhaps someone more mechanically inclined can describe how you go about loosening the belt and then tightening it again. That would make it much easier. I just muscled it back on. All the scrapes, cuts and crushed fingers are just about healed...:D

Dave

The tensioner has a 1/2" drive "square" cut into it so you can stick a breaker bar into it to relieve belt tension. I shredded my belt when I put it back on because I was one rib off on one pulley...d'oh.

do you need to remove the serpentine belt when removing the AC compressor to get to the BS plug?

I would, makes moving the A/C compressor a whole lot easier. Not hard, stick a 1/2 inch breaker bar in the idler arm, pull couunter clockwise and off she comes.

Jim

thanks guys but i just got the BS in there without removing the compressor. It took about an hour and some choice words, but with a long screwdriver and a bent coat hanger I got er done, broken body and all. Im goin for a drive to see if it was worth the pain. Im sure it was. I'll report back soon

Got my BS today. What a MF'er. I pulled the AC, that helped. Getting the extender plugged in, well when it did go in it felt like hot apple pie.):h Haven't had a chance to take it out on a run yet.

PPE Xcelerator (level 2--90hp) + BS= awesome! I installed in about 30 minutes...did not remove belt or AC. Used long screwdriver, needle nose and coat hanger

boost gauge pegs at about 32-33psi on a 35 psi gauge

Thanks Fingers and JK!

well i finally got my stick in this morning took me about 30 minutes. I remove the plastic piece that says 6.6 on it and the AC compressor. I used a screw driver, 1/2 rathcet, 15mm socket, extension and a bar. here are some pictures

http://bcaudio.com/truck/1022050810.jpg
http://bcaudio.com/truck/1022050811.jpg
http://bcaudio.com/truck/1022050811a.jpg
http://bcaudio.com/truck/1022050814.jpg

i think i hid it well. if you pop the hood you will never see it

I've had best luck with my full exhaust on these trucks. The dyno plot is on my site. The cat and it's twisting pipe is the major restriction in the system IMHO.
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I couldnt find the dyno info about removing the kitty on the web site.
But reading your posts, you seem to know your stuff. I'd like to order the BS and the MBRP cat delete tube, I saw the BS on your web site but not the cat delete - Can I order both from you?

Thanks
Keith

Gimme a call.

I used a screw driver, 1/2 rathcet, 15mm socket, extension and a bar. here are some pictures


What's the bar for? To beat on the truck when you can't get the connector out?):h

Jim

for more torque on the rachet......i did not have a breaker bar with a long handle

Boost Stick + Predator 85...seat of pants meter = whoa! Overall I would say that this Boost Stick could be the number one improvement/modification I have done to my truck. The improvement in low end boost is astounding and makes the truck drive 100% better. At cruising I used to see about 0-2 lbs of boost on my gauge, I now see 6-8lbs. My old max boost was about 24lbs, last night I hit 33lbs just rolling on the throttle. EGT's are down at least 100degrees in all instances, cruising, stomping, inclines, and declines. The turbo also sounds better too. I cannot say anything about fuel consumption as I havent burned through enough fuel to make any determinations yet. Thanks again to Fingers and Kennedy.
P.S. I have a CA truck and no codes were thrown nor did any other issues arise.
thanks

HELP....

What am i fishing and from where??????

I see nothing that resembles the plug on the passenger side or where the BS even plugs ito!!!!


I have the COMPRESSOR off!!!

HELP

directly under the front right corner (if your standing in front of the truck leaning into the engine) of the big plastic 6.6 piece you will see a mess of split looming, underneath and among it all you will see the plug. unplug it and match it to the stick. you should be able to tell imediately if you have the right one. then just fill the gap with the stick. put it all back the way you found it and your good to go. its a fight but youll get it.

Well how does the extension work...

Why are some talking about the passenger side?????

Well how does the extension work...

Why are some talking about the passenger side?????

I did not use the extension. I also spent no time on the passenger side. I think some may have fished it as far back as there:confused: . I didnt and dont think I could have.

HELP....

What am i fishing and from where??????

I see nothing that resembles the plug on the passenger side or where the BS even plugs ito!!!!


I have the COMPRESSOR off!!!

HELP

There's a pic and some tutrial on my site...

OK, thanks guys... I fished it up 2-3" to where the harness is bundles and then I ran the extension over behind the intake runner that has the black plastic cover that is Zip-tied down.. Then ran the stick on the front side back towards the plug in the valley!!!


Runs good and I can definately hear some turbo whistle at intermitant throttle 20-40 mph....

SMoke is cleaned up in level 2-3-4, btu I dont run 4-5 mush so I have soem chop in levle 5..

With the stock trany i will not be romping to much in 5 now though!!


THANKS

FINGERS and KENNEDY!!!
Great Product!!!

On the '06, the MAP sensor was moved to the front of the intake.

I assume that the BS uses this connection. What am I looking for under the plastic 6.6 cover? Does the BS completely replace the wire running from the MAP to somewhere under the cover? There's some good photos here and on Kennedy, but I'm still not clear on what it plug into under the cover (assuming it's the turbo vane controller line).

Do you think this will work on my '06?

BS will NOT work on the '06 as of right now.

Bummer. Thanks.
Any idea how soon we'll see one?

To do a proper job I will have to find an '06 and strap it down to JK's dyno like was done for the current version. That and I need to update my reference manuals.

Well, just got mine installed. Just like everybody says, it's a biatch to get to, but removing the plastic 6.6 thing, and the air conditioning compressor, allowed me to get it on in 30 minutes with minimal cursing.!

I'm running the predator on 45, and it feels very different, much stronger, however, in a 5th gear roll on, i'm getting what feels like backfiring. Is this bursting? Guess i better do a search on how to fix that. I really didn't expect it to do that on only the 45 setting. It doesn't clear out of it till i back outa the throttle. Before it does it, it's spinning the speedo pretty good, feels like the 65 tune.

Turbo sounds great tho, always singin.!:ro)

Forgot to say, checked it and no codes, so whatever is causing it doesn't trigger anything. Fuel filter has 3000 miles on it. I'm down to a 1/4 tank of fuel. Does not do it any other time than a 1/2 to 3/4 throttle roll on in 5th gear only.

weird........

Ok - I had to connect with a member because I couldn't find the darn connector (right in front of me! thanks jmg343) so took me longer than most of you. Thank goodness for the extension - I would not want to do this again given I don;t have the right tools. I removed the air cover, unsecured the connector with a screw driver, hook it with a coat hanger and fished it up a few inches to the left of its original place so that gave me enough finger room to connect it to the BS. The hard part was to secure the extension to the sensor. So, I fished the ext with the same coat hanger down from an opening near the drivers side of the manifold runner and slowly pulled it (a little maneuvering) until I go it in the sensor (female) slot. Then removed the coat hanger and secured it until it snapped into place. No blood but my pelvis and nuts are a bit sore from leaning over the top of the radiator :( .

Results: I went on a short ride. A noticeable improvement.:ro) It is like some of the rest experienced that it seems to act as if I increased the programmer by one level. WOT EGT's up by 100 to 1400. I can't say what the results are cruising, will know next week. Max boost with Hyper L3 was 25, now it pegged my 30PSI boost gauge (looked to have gone a tad over - maybe 32-33).

One thing that concerned me was the way my tranny shifted a few times during WOT. :confused: Not sure how to explain it but it seemed to slip, RPM's increased for a brief moment. Then didn't seem to shift from 3-4 as solid (sloppy) as before. Is this what is considered going "limp" or another term used here "bursting"? Not sure what that means. Is it too much power on L3 w\BS for stock trans? Maybe I should lower it to L2.

Fingers - Kenney: Great product given the results and price. Thanks for the prompt delivery - smooth transaction.

Denalli02... Your EGT's went UP 100 degrees? That seems out of the norm from all I have read.

I recieved mine today as well. It took me longer to find it then it took to install it. Thanks to kennedy's install pick I found it. I have no need at all for the extension. I used a screwdriver and a coat hanger and in 15 minutes was done. This fat boy didn't even break a sweat. I did take the 6.6 air cover off though so I also used a torx bit. The jury is still out on the performance mainly because I haven't spent a whole bunch of time with the Predator so I am really still getting used to that as well. I spent money and put in effort to install it so it's easy to say I feel it. I am up to 17.5 on this tank of fuel with it installed and the 65 Pred. setting plus the tire correction, so that is cool as far as I am concerned.

Here is a picture of where the Boost Sensor is located with the compressor in place.

http://mysite.verizon.net/mcelravy1/bs1.jpg

Here it's location is highlighted with the compressor removed.

http://mysite.verizon.net/mcelravy1/bs2.jpg

And a closeup of the highlighted area with the connector itself highlighted.

http://mysite.verizon.net/mcelravy1/bs3.jpg

You will note in the top picture that I already have the extension and BS installed and draped over the top of the engine for easy access. Hope this helps.

IF you don't have your tranny built, you should be careful. Wheras the 65 HP tune on the Predator would be fine on a stock tranny, with the BS it will act more like an 85 HP tune and can make your tranny slip.