got my new stack up and running, seams stronger than the 110va, but that is only seat of the pants, once the temperture smartens up i will do some gteching, also got a power pup with timing and does it come alive with the stack, will chirp the tires from a stop in fwd with no brake holding back, keep you informedhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif

should work, have fun with that!!!!!http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif

Does that stack make the odometer roll back too? http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Wacko.gif

on the largest tire setting the speed is 24 miles per hour slower at 74mph, as well the http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cool.gifodometer

Wouldn't you want to be tuning it for the smallest tire size possible, if you want the odometer to roll slower?

Camstyn, I was thinking the same thing.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Confused.gif

Wouldn't you want to be tuning it for the smallest tire size possible, if you want the odometer to roll slower?


The computer is thinking that for every revolution it is covering "x" amount of ground.


A smaller tire will have to turn more times to go the same distance as a larger one.


So if a small tire covers 5 feet per/revolution and a large one covers 10 feet/ per revolution then with a larger tire it will go 1/2 as fast using that scenario.


So 1/2 as fast is 1/2 the MPH.......


Class Dismissed


Is that right http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Confused.gif





Thttp://dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gifNYEdited by: GMC-2002-Dmax

This is BS because if you go too far and make it way out of whack the truck won't stop and it will set the ABS light.

What do you mean it won't stop?


I'm 13% off from stock and my speedo is uncorrected, how far you you go before problems arise?

I do not know exactly where it starts, but if you go to one extreme you will have problems. We had someone call us and claim that we had screwed their antilock brake system up. We started testing and found out they had either raised or lowered the tire size all the way to the bottom or top. When he put it back they were fine.








Quad

Good to know, I'll have to find a different way to slow down my odometer then.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Evil Smile.gif

<DIV>"This is BS because if you go too far and make it way out of whack the truck won't stop and it will set the ABS light."</DIV>
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<DIV> quad: yes you are right on the abs light comming on, and you are wrong on the truck will not stop, have been running this for now over 10k and yes my truck always stops, but the light does come on after a few miles, so i guess your statment is bshttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif, and to remind you this is a power pup and we all no you have a whole different box then themhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Disapprove.gif</DIV>
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<DIV>as for the tire setting the setting of 25" gives the lowest tire speed compared to entering a higher number, for my 33" tires 32" is what i need to enter to be deadly to my gps for speed</DIV>
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<DIV>"This is BS because if you go too far and make it way out of whack the truck won't stop and it will set the ABS light."</DIV>
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<DIV> quad: yes you are right on the abs light comming on, and you are wrong on the truck will not stop, have been running this for now over 10k and yes my truck always stops, but the light does come on after a few miles, so i guess your statment is bshttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif, and to remind you this is a power pup and we all no you have a whole different box then themhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Disapprove.gif</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>as for the tire setting the setting of 25" gives the lowest tire speed compared to entering a higher number, for my 33" tires 32" is what i need to enter to be deadly to my gps for speed</DIV>
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It does not matter if you use a puppydog or a predator or a tech2 or anything else. The ABS will screw up and you will have hardly any brakes, the ABS is controlled in the ECM obviously and when you wreck your truck or kill some poor family to save a few hundred miles on your odometer only blame yourself.





Also 2 things are happening, you are lying about how far off you speedo is, or you know your brakes are all but non existant and do not want to say anything. Yes you can stop, eventually, but they are not like they are supposed to be.





And yes, I can prove it, not on a Gtech.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clown.gif

I don't understand how the computer has anything to do with normal braking?


These trucks are Throttle by wire not brake by wire....there is a direct mechanical connection from the brake pedal to the booster and on to the wheels. IF ABS is needed then yes a change may be noticed. But I'm not even sure about that because ABS compares one wheel's speed to another to sense lockup so actual ground speed isn't an issue.


I just don't see how the computer can influence a purely mechanical system like hydraulic brakes? ABS maybe but not actual braking force.

What if you take the fuse out that controls the ABS? I know the light will always be on, but at least you'll have full braking power. Personally I hate ABS anyways, it's almost caused me to rear end someone before on wet pavement.

My new kit for sale will address all the issues above. We have done extensive G-Tech testing and we know this will work. You can turn that 100,000 mile warranty into a 500,000 mile warranty with our kit.


We will drop ship to your door but an extension ladder and / or small crane will be necessary for the install.


Act now and get the low low forum member discount price for only three payments of $19.95 each.


I just finished the install on my rig and while starting out and stopping is really difficult along with navigating under overpasses presenting some challenges I feel really good knowing that my odometer won't hardly move for a few years. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clown.gif http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Wacko.gif


Here is the photo of it installed:


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SWEET! How much trimming is there involved in the fenders/front bumper?http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif

quad: i have 04s with the power pup doing the samething, with less than 5k on, and yes they have brakes as well, i called bully dog about what you said and they are probally still laughing if you call them, i am not here to sh*t on your product so why is there so much tension when a va or bullydog product is mentioned, if they are so different in tunes, my brakes have never failed not once and i am 24 miles per hour slower than the gps at hiway speeds, so please ease up and relax http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Ermm.gifhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Evil Smile.gifhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Dead.gif

I'm curious Quad.. When it happens will it just disable the ABS, or make the ABS think the tires are slipping and lose braking power?

**Mental Note - Never buy a used vehicle from fredw**

Oh, no, I disagree. I'd buy one from Fred, since his truck makes more torque than any other and he gets 25mpg. And it has the magical ability to shrink distances. Just look at how far the map says it is vs how far the odometer says.


Every trick in my sig I learned from him and another guy with a "magic stack." (Where's that heavy sarcasm emoticon?)

(Where's that heavy sarcasm emoticon?)





Up your @ss, right next to your head?http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif

PWNED!

Got juice,


How is that new tranny workin out? Have you posted any feedback anywhere?

WOW


This is way to much useless funny azz posting goin on here ...





Mac http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif

Got juice,


How is that new tranny workin out? Have you posted any feedback anywhere?





Hay bud! new trans is working much better. New T/C (EXP#2) is AWESOME! we installed 1&amp;2&amp;3 T/C but we settled on this one for now. Great street manners yet 20% firmer than stock.... interesting the pressure differential between TH and REG tranny mode.... i'll post pics of the burned steels and clutches.... if there ever is a prize for most screwed components i might win!


DTT is developing more items as we speak and i should be down again in 8 weeks to have more work done. The DTT techs Darren (VB Specialist) and Vinnie (Tech/Mech) have got the R&amp;R down to an awesome 1 hour!!!!


I must say my experience with DTT has been a positive one from my viewpoint, and when the trans is totally ready for prime time they will release it to the general public. I signed a non disclosure agreement and probably have said too much already, but i do race, tow over 12,000 regularly and use the truck as daily transport. All i do for DTT is send them reports on shift manners, temperatures and 'feel' (compared to stock)


Juice

Got Juice,


Does your new set up require an external electronics control box? Any other external goodies or is it all on the inside of the tranny?

Got Juice,


Does your new set up require an external electronics control box? Any other external goodies or is it all on the inside of the tranny?








No electronics at all. Everything is internal. The T/C i am running is more aggressive than stock...shift from P to D and the rearend squats about 1.5" even with the brakes on...speaking of which, you need more pedal pressure to keep it stopped at a light, other than that in reg mode it does make me smile and in tow hall 25% throttle with the stack will break the tires loose on the 1-2 upshift on dry pavement...note to self do not do that in the snow and ice :)

Got juice,


Thanks for the info. I will be awaiting futher updates once your gag order has been lifted!

Got juice,


Thanks for the info. I will be awaiting futher updates once your gag order has been lifted!





You might want to call Bill in 8-12 weeks for an update. I can't say much but he might provide more insight.


My GAG order...lol too true, honestly though this beta testing is exciting stuff and i am looking forward to the finished product.


their forum might have more info, but i haven't been there in a while

PWNED!


Huh? If you recall, Kennedy and I predicted your second dyno run would fall 100hp short of your first 544hp fluke. When you posted your results (within 3 hp of predicted), you got owned so bad your birth certificate has a salvaged title.


To date, you have yet to back up that 544hp run. As you've been reminded by Brandon and Sdaver above. Did I mention that? Sorry.





Let's see a little less smack and some more dyno sheets.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Wink.gif

Got Juice,


Does your new set up require an external electronics control box? Any other external goodies or is it all on the inside of the tranny?








No electronics at all. Everything is internal. The T/C i am running is more aggressive than stock...shift from P to D and the rearend squats about 1.5" even with the brakes on...speaking of which, you need more pedal pressure to keep it stopped at a light, other than that in reg mode it does make me smile and in tow hall 25% throttle with the stack will break the tires loose on the 1-2 upshift on dry pavement...note to self do not do that in the snow and ice :)








Now THIS sounds very exciting, as you said!


I respect your NDA... looking fwd to hearing about this when they decide it's ready for release.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif

PWNED!


Huh? If you recall, Kennedy and I predicted your second dyno run would fall 100hp short of your first 544hp fluke. When you posted your results (within 3 hp of predicted), you got owned so bad your birth certificate has a salvaged title.


To date, you have yet to back up that 544hp run. As you've been reminded by Brandon and Sdaver above. Did I mention that? Sorry.





Let's see a little less smack and some more dyno sheets.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Wink.gif





ya ya ya.... if i hadn't run so damn short of time you better believe i would have dynoed.... at BOTH shops!

Got Juice,


Does your new set up require an external electronics control box? Any other external goodies or is it all on the inside of the tranny?








No electronics at all. Everything is internal. The T/C i am running is more aggressive than stock...shift from P to D and the rearend squats about 1.5" even with the brakes on...speaking of which, you need more pedal pressure to keep it stopped at a light, other than that in reg mode it does make me smile and in tow hall 25% throttle with the stack will break the tires loose on the 1-2 upshift on dry pavement...note to self do not do that in the snow and ice :)








Now THIS sounds very exciting, as you said!


I respect your NDA... looking fwd to hearing about this when they decide it's ready for release.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif





NDA?!?!? oh.... got it.... i would post a pic of it, but its just boring legal shtuff... i do not know how much time it will take for all the testing to be done, but the convertor stuff was cool as well as inspecting all of the allisons in the shop.... one thing allison has going for her....no input/outputshaft envy !


The only problem with my opinion is that i don't have any experience with the other trannies out there.


I will continue to update any progress i am allowed to share on here etc etc.... does that about cover everything?

Here's a little info when mine was squatting a inch and a half and took additional peddle pressure at the stop something was wrong (from the other thread you posted on Juice)...


Since then problem corrected ....


Granted your in the experimental phase but that type of aggresive "bite" "drag" will get you in trouble quickly in inclimate weather ... I'll admit it was entertaining ....


Good luck and like others I await more info ....


Mac

In the 4x4 off road world many chose togo with a torque converter that is completly locked at vey low RPM. 7-1000. This allows you to put all of your power to the ground and reduce tranny heat. The condition Gotjuice did remind me of this. I just left it alone due to the fact he is inn the R&amp;D stages. If I may make a suggestion? Gotjuice, if you are on icy/slippery roads and need to come to a complete stop, you might need to throw your truck into neutral? I could see you sitting at a stop light and unitentionally powerbraking on ice. The back end will come around or you will slowly creep into the intersection. I have been in vehicles with the idle set to high and it was not uncommon to through them into neutral at lights. Just give those guys at DTT plenty of feedback. I am sure they will make it right.

Good points mackin and bronco..... AFAIK this level right now is acceptable even here in the frozen wasteland up here. everything is quite decent with the trans and we will see where this road takes us!


All in all it is exciting stuff (did i mention i was excited before...opps yes i did, my bad... but it is exciting!)http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif