: Farm Fuel shut down Duramax fuel pump
FooDog 09-20-2005, 02:10 PM I have an unconfirmed, yet in my opinion, a reliable story, from a friend about another friend of his that runs a construction site where everything runs on red diesel.
This guy apparently bought a brand new 2003 GMC Sierra 3500 and about 2 months later loaded it up with red diesel. Supposedly the engine turned over just fine, but when he put it into gear it shut down on him.
This guy was friends with the person who runs the GM dealership and called in about it, letting him know what he did.
The story is that there is a sensor in at least as early as the 2003 Duramax that checks for the red dye and locks up the fuel pump.
Resetting the pump was not something that could be done at the dealership, but the pump needed to be sent to GM to be reset, which in itself cost $2000.
I've had another person looking into this and said that the sensor does not exist.
I personally have no intentions of running red diesel in my vehicle, but was posting to see if I could confirm the existence of such as sensor in the fuel pump and other's experiences with it if it does truly exist.
madmax69 09-20-2005, 02:21 PM It's BS...:D
it'll run fine....altho I don't know why I know..):h
snuffysmith 09-20-2005, 02:36 PM mine is an 05 not an 03 but i've ran the so called "offroad diesel" in my truck a time or two and have had not problems.
dmax lover 09-20-2005, 02:49 PM I can't find it - but someone posted a GM bulletin here that stated that dealers should treat red-dyed fuel the same as on-road fuel when it comes to service issues - in other words, don't say that any issue is the fault of the fuel; and that they are to continue with diagnosis and repair as usual if "offroad fuel" is used.
jeff
klutchdust 09-20-2005, 02:53 PM We use something called 'purinox' .It looks like pepto bismol. It is for off road vehicles. It contains a lot of water and has ruined an injector pump or two on very expensive fork lifts. We use it on just a few units, kind of an EPA thing. Slowly phasing it out as it seperates and clogs filters etc. As far as the red dye thing, total BS in my opinion.
SteveNorCal 09-20-2005, 03:09 PM No doubt about it.....this is a BS story! :blahblah:
dmaxalliTech 09-20-2005, 03:21 PM bs, gm says red fuel is fine. Only caution they give is contaminats as it tends to be stored in less then desireable ways.
dieselken41 09-20-2005, 03:32 PM I Don't Belive It, I Do It All The Time Including Kero With No Problems
bullydog 09-20-2005, 04:24 PM This truck has ('05) has only ever had red fuel in it. My previous '04 lly went 35000miles with red dye and no problems at all. Know someone with an '02 that has 80k or more miles on it all on red dye and no problems.
THAT WAS BS!!!
Even if there would be such a sensor which there OBVIOUSLY isn't, how would people run red dye (those that are allowed to...like me)
powerco02 09-20-2005, 04:50 PM I have been told that if you ever have used red "off road" fuel in your vehicle that they can tell forever if you ever get sampled. I know that some people have the reason run red, but this would be few. Just letting you know I have heard they can hold your truck if they find the smallest trace and fine very heavy.
NODMAX 09-20-2005, 05:09 PM :sleep:
lawdogso 09-20-2005, 05:11 PM My truck is no stranger to the red. I have never been able to tell a difference in the two fuels. They actually are the same fuel one just has an added dye. Stop listening to the rumor mills. Read here first!!! :blahblah:
NODMAX 09-20-2005, 05:13 PM This topic is so old it could vote.
snuffysmith 09-20-2005, 05:32 PM ...............:exactly: :exactly: .......................
Timberwolf530 09-20-2005, 05:35 PM I have an unconfirmed, yet in my opinion, a reliable story, from a friend about another friend of his that runs a construction site where everything runs on red diesel.
This guy apparently bought a brand new 2003 GMC Sierra 3500 and about 2 months later loaded it up with red diesel. Supposedly the engine turned over just fine, but when he put it into gear it shut down on him.
This guy was friends with the person who runs the GM dealership and called in about it, letting him know what he did.
The story is that there is a sensor in at least as early as the 2003 Duramax that checks for the red dye and locks up the fuel pump.
Resetting the pump was not something that could be done at the dealership, but the pump needed to be sent to GM to be reset, which in itself cost $2000.
I've had another person looking into this and said that the sensor does not exist.
I personally have no intentions of running red diesel in my vehicle, but was posting to see if I could confirm the existence of such as sensor in the fuel pump and other's experiences with it if it does truly exist.
Tell your friend to just put some blue food coloring in his fuel, that way the "Red Dye" sensor will be fooled and he'll be OK.
joken 09-20-2005, 06:22 PM Lets see now are all the folks that are burning red fuel expected to admit their sin?
Just put some green dye in it that ought to fool'em.
DMaxNut 09-20-2005, 06:39 PM I have been told that if you ever have used red "off road" fuel in your vehicle that they can tell forever if you ever get sampled. I know that some people have the reason run red, but this would be few. Just letting you know I have heard they can hold your truck if they find the smallest trace and fine very heavy.
You can always argue that you used to only drive it on the farm. They have no way of proving otherwise. Or the "officer, I was stranded and a farmer lent me some fuel" routine. The list of explanations is endless.
coyotekid 09-20-2005, 07:45 PM LOL...that's all I have to say.
rolloffhill 09-20-2005, 08:15 PM mmmmmm*cough*mmmmmm
CAMike 09-20-2005, 09:32 PM FooFog - You are not Foo Real. So beware posting future fooish posts!
davedan 09-21-2005, 12:17 AM I ran red in my Kodiak with a duramax 03, for a year and had no problems, have been running off road clear for a year in my 04.5 with no problems. Diesel is Diesel, but no BIO diesel. A Friend who owns a Fuel injection shop told me to stay away from biodiesel because they dont have it perfected yet, it emulsifies with water and ruins pumps.
Jperry 09-21-2005, 09:09 AM During the fuel shortage in florida after the hurricane the EPA lifted the restriction on Red fuel for like two weeks to be used in over road vehicles. That tells me there is no difference and tells me they can't detect the small amount that says you used it in the past. Otherwise that stunt would void all future tests.
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