Recieved / installed mine today, never saw pics on here for doing it so thought I'd post some.


A few pics of the Isolator itself

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/mo-viking/PMD.jpg


http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/mo-viking/PMD1.jpg


http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/mo-viking/PMD2.jpg






Unmolested plastic skid plate (with PS fluid stains)

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/mo-viking/PMD3.jpg





Isolator bolted on to skid plate (backside view)

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/mo-viking/PMD4.jpg




Bottom view

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/mo-viking/PMD5.jpg





Front view with skid plate bolted back in place

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/mo-viking/PMD6.jpg





A few holes/tie wraps to keep wires in place

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/mo-viking/PMD7.jpg






The ends joined, shrink wrap and ends tie wraped

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/mo-viking/PMD8.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/mo-viking/PMD9.jpg



Hardest part was fishing out the harness end :D

Guess my PMD was worse than I thought, it runs MUCH better now, no BS




EDIT And the front shot, no clearance problems here


http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/mo-viking/PMDe.jpg

Vicking,
Whose unit is that? Mine is supposed to be here tomorrow; your pics couldn't have had better timing. TIA

Vicking,
Whose unit is that? Mine is supposed to be here tomorrow; your pics couldn't have had better timing. TIA


It's a Heath unit


http://www.heathdiesel.com/P/HDP1280/

Bill might get upset with you calling it a HEALTH unit? Your sig says the same too... lol

Although health is good!

Bill might get upset with you calling it a HEALTH unit? Your sig says the same too... lol

Although health is good!

I, I knew that :lol: thanks CR.

I have the same unit..very easy install and I noticed a smoother Idle right off the back....of course my PMD was on its way out too. But regardless, I did have noticeable performance improvements after install. Bill did say when I ordered it I would get a few extra HP or so and I thought to myself ya right, but then again, my PMD at the time was dying.

That must be a newer one because I swear mine was rectangle/square and didnt have two corners cut off. Other than that...nice pictures.

:joke: First set of mounting holes didn't work?

Nice pics - thanks for posting them. I foresee me having to do this as well in the near future.

Isn't the remote mount PMD supposed to have an aluminum heat sink with fins on it, instead of just that flat plate? The pictures I've seen of the remote FSD's have heat sinks on them.

Any tricks to getting the stock PMD plug off without removing the intake? It looks really tight in there, and I can barely even see the plug! Is there enough slack in the stock wiring to pull it out a bit of the valley to plug the new extension harness into?

The timing couldn't have been better for me, either.

I'm picking up my first oil burner next week (a 98 Suburban) and will be setting it up to run on WVO. Along with being the new family truck, it will be my daily driver - 130 mile round trip commute.

Is there any concern about the PMD now "swinging in the breeze" under the bumper? I'm thinking of how water/snow/salt will affect it over time. I know the stock location isn't really a hospitable place either, but it's somewhat protected.




Andy

I know that I've been told on this forum that my location won't last very long, but I've had it for a year and 16,000 miles of driving and not even a sputter since I installed it. This one has outlasted the last three put together so far. But I have mine mounted on the intake. It doesn't get real hot there with the d-max fan and the large heat sink its on. I didn't even need an extension harness. I'm real happy so far with mine, and as you can see from my location I live where it gets hot. Nothing against anybody elses kit, I'm just saying I like mine just fine. Plus the 5 minute install was nice to:grd: .

:joke: First set of mounting holes didn't work?


Yeah they worked, I just rethought the connection pointing up, tempting water/other runnung down in it, and turned out I had enough wire length anyway...............good eyes though :D



Stingray454
Isn't the remote mount PMD supposed to have an aluminum heat sink with fins on it, instead of just that flat plate? The pictures I've seen of the remote FSD's have heat sinks on them.

There are two plates with a air gap between them, I'd call that a heat sink.

Any tricks to getting the stock PMD plug off without removing the intake? It looks really tight in there, and I can barely even see the plug! Is there enough slack in the stock wiring to pull it out a bit of the valley to plug the new extension harness into?

The plug is down by the #1 intake runner, spot the black ground wire screwed down there, it's from that plug, I used a long flat screwdriver and pair of needlenose pliers to unplug it and pull it up, it's tight but there is enough length to do it.


murph
Is there any concern about the PMD now "swinging in the breeze" under the bumper? I'm thinking of how water/snow/salt will affect it over time. I know the stock location isn't really a hospitable place either, but it's somewhat protected

Per Heath "The electrical connection at the PMD is a sealed, weather-tight type that is not affected by water, mud or snow. The PMD Isolator is a very durable design and is not susceptible to road hazard in this location"

Look at the last pic again, its really not "swinging in the breeze" I don't forsee a problem but will post if one arises.

IMHO anywhere under the hood is HOT, remounting the PMD to a much cooler location was the thing to do. :cool:

I can't see the pics at all....:( Our network goons have the firewall set to block most JPGs and message boards, I'm surprised I can get to this site at all.

I didn't mean to say it was actually swinging on something like a zip tie, it was just a figure of speech. I've seen pics of the unit and know the plate is what actually faces forward, not the PMD. I was just questioning the possibility of enviromental or foreign object damage. And since my name *IS* Murphy, if schitt is going to happen to someone, it will be me...:D


Andy

Fermanator -

My personal theory is that the problem is NOT high temperatures while in operation, but high temperatures AFTER shutdown. Your installation in the intake will not solve this - as it is still in the engine bay, which is the source of heat.

I mounted mine using SSDiesel's heatsync, and Kennedy's remote harness. It is mounted to the underside of the bumper. It stays cools in all temps. I suppose there is some marginal risk of moisture contamination, but I think it is minimal, given the weather-sealed connectors, etc.

I admit that I am impressed that Heath's proto unit has been in continuous operation since 94 without a failure. Walt (SS Diesel) claims they have thousands of units without 1 failure as well.

Sincerely,

Rob :)

OK, now that I can actually see the pics :D , I retract my question about durability. On the other set of pics I saw, the AL plate was mounted to tow hook bolts and in front of the air dam. That where where my questions about exposure to the elements came from. Viking's install is something completely different from that.



Andy

murph, You might want to consider moving the PMD to behind the bumper as some have done. Here is a link to a pic of my install.
http://dieselplace.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=7033&d=1122771377

I like mine inside the bumper also. Protected, easy to remove (5 min.), scrap heat sink, my own harness, cheap and easy upgrade. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/showthread.php?t=35627

My Heath, Health mount and I mean it that way is behind the front liscence plate, I notched the plastic tag mounting frame so I could mount it with the driver facing toward the bumper so the heat sink pl;ate could shield it. As for durability, mine has been there for a year and just went through Katrina mounted there, Rain-mud-salt, deep water still ticking. TT under hoood heat is the killer, look for the points to ponder post I made last year for data I posted using a thermocouple to read driver temps we are dealing with. It's cumulative each hot condition stresses the electronics further with each heat event, and in IMO under hood or on pump mounts are a matter of when and not if the fail.

My Heath, Health mount and I mean it that way is behind the front liscence plate, I notched the plastic tag mounting frame so I could mount it with the driver facing toward the bumper so the heat sink pl;ate could shield it. As for durability, mine has been there for a year and just went through Katrina mounted there, Rain-mud-salt, deep water still ticking. TT under hoood heat is the killer, look for the points to ponder post I made last year for data I posted using a thermocouple to read driver temps we are dealing with. It's cumulative each hot condition stresses the electronics further with each heat event, and in IMO under hood or on pump mounts are a matter of when and not if the fail.
Nice to have you back. :) Glad to see a bit of normalcy returning to your life.

it's coming in drips & drabs each day gets a little better, using dial up now so a little awkward to spend much time here but I'll be popping in more frequently as things return turn back to normal.

I like mine inside the bumper also. Protected, easy to remove (5 min.), scrap heat sink, my own harness, cheap and easy upgrade. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/showthread.php?t=35627

Thanks!


So you just cut the factory harness and added wire in to lengthen it?


Andy

Yes.
1st I drew a detailed schematic of the connector and wire colors so I could get it back together again because I cut back a ways. What I mean is I didn't splice in right were the connection at the IP is I went a little further back. It was still under the manifold, but I think if someone took their time they may be able to go back to the firewall if they really wanted. I just wanted to reduce wire length. I think my final length was something around 5 feet. For the splicing strip back the wires about 1/8" and tin them with soldier, then you can soldier both tinned wires together and put heat shrink on them to seal it.

Just had my IP and PMD replaced by factory last year. When my PMD goes out on this one, I will be making my own cooler and mounting it in the cab. My plan is to mount a heatsink and fan to it that we use in our computers to cool the processor. You can pick one up for around $20. I can make my own harness and run it thru the firewall. The fan would be fused and tapped into the ignition somewhere so it doesn't run all the time. If I wanted to get technical with it, I could put in a thermistor circuit and have it temp controlled so the fan is not on with just the accessories, but fan noise is minimal so IMO, it wouldn't be an issue.

When you look for a cooler, take an old PMD to measure surface area with, need the 'completly' flat heat sink.. Also, when tapping threads in ALUM. VERY slow, do not force tap, not and easy job....may want to use slightl larger tap drill.

It might be not work as well mounted to plastic since it is in effect isolated from any heat dissapating materials. It may help longevity to mount to a metal item to help spread the heat out especially after shutdown with heat soak. Just my two cents.

I also went with the Heath almost 2 years ago and 35K miles no problems I mounted mine ontop of the frame crosmember that hold the front of the tranny up. I had the orgine Beat cooler which the SS is a knock off of. While many people have had no problems with the intake mounts mine died at 30K miles while the pump mount went 100K. So I too am not a fan of any engine bay mount. GET it out of the engine bay.

I also went with the Heath almost 2 years ago and 35K miles no problems I mounted mine ontop of the frame crosmember that hold the front of the tranny up. I had the orgine Beat cooler which the SS is a knock off of. While many people have had no problems with the intake mounts mine died at 30K miles while the pump mount went 100K. So I too am not a fan of any engine bay mount. GET it out of the engine bay.

Okay! I'll say it:

:nopics:

Please!

Thanks!


So you just cut the factory harness and added wire in to lengthen it?


Andy

Murph:

I just recently moved my PMD cooler to ther backside of the bumper on my 95, 6.5. For my application, it required 72" of wire harness length to go from the original PMD plug (at manifold) to follow some pre-existing wires that passed by and under the driver-side battery, through a hole beneath the driver-side headlight, then down to the center of the back side of the front bumper. At this location, the PMD and cooler get plenty of air and will not get hot while idling or after engine shut off. You will have to remove the grill to access these areas. I used the pre-existing bolt holes in the bumper for my mounting screws to attach the PMD to the inside of the bumper (5/16 x 1 inch, stainless). It was very easy and at this location, you can easily change the PMD or plug in a spare if one goes down. The most time consuming part of this operation was splicing the wiring harness to get the extra length. Be sure to solder the splices well and cover with heat-shrink tubing. Works like a charm!!!! Good luck!!!

:grd:

Hardest part was fishing out the harness end :D

Guess my PMD was worse than I thought, it runs MUCH better now, no BS


Thanks for the great post, Viking. Exactly what changes did you see after install?

Sincerely,

Rob :)

Thanks for the great post, Viking. Exactly what changes did you see after install?

Sincerely,

Rob :)


I desided to do this now because my truck would stall from time to time if left idleing, other than that I THOUGHT it was running fine.

Idles and runs smoother, turbo spools up faster, that puff of black smoke when you nail it is barely visiable, seems to take less pressure on the go pedal, and does a VERY respectable burnout now ( understand this was tried in the name of research ;) ) , have'nt filled up since but needle seems to be moving slower.