: LBZ: Snow MPG-MAX location on your truck?
JD4440 12-28-2011, 12:15 AM Mines a regular cab so................
I think I'm going to do away with the 7 gal tank and buy the 2 1/2 gal to mount in my toolbox out of the way/ hid. Where does everyone mount their pumps? I'd rather not have to run wiring all the way back to my box, thought about mounting it on the underside of the intake base plate. I really want it all out of sight.
As for the nozzles I guess I'm going to have to drill and tap my EGR delete, I think it's thick enough material. Kicking myself now for not having them put a few extra bungs in :mad:
GoneNomad 12-28-2011, 08:55 AM Does this thing
http://www.snowperformance.net/product.php?pk=65
really work - as far as improving fuel economy?
And if so, how much of an improvement does it make?
I noticed the thousand-dollar retail pricetag, so I would hope it works really well???
briano 12-28-2011, 09:03 AM $1000 ??? omg... you can get a custom ECU for less than that and get better results.. just sayin.. if it sprays a constant stream at anything above normal boost levels, it seems it would run out pretty quickly..??
just my $.02
JD4440 12-28-2011, 09:47 AM I gave $600 for mine off ebay, guy had sold his truck before installing. Says it hasn't even been opened. We'll see I get it friday I guess.
I have seen more than a couple claim 50-75hp and a few hundred deg cooler egt's 1 1/2 - 2 mpg better on boostjuice. I'll definitely be keeping track of it.
As for the ecm, I'm sure it would add 300 deg before it took away that much. This is more for something that's already tuned I suppose.
GoneNomad 12-28-2011, 10:01 AM Looks like you got a very good deal. The MPG-MAX seems to be ~$200+ more than other Snow water injection kits, I guess due to having a more sophisticated controller.:confused:
FWIW, there should be plenty of room to mount a larger tank under the body somewhere, outside of the frame rail.
I guess coming up with a way to fill lit might be a little problematical though.
I have been looking at possible locations to add additional fuel tanks on my van, and there's a huge space on the left side, outside the frame rail.
But if you're basically in the testing phase, it might be worthwhile to use an even smaller tank located in the most convenient spot possible, just in case you find out that it doesn't provide the benefits the manufacturer claims, in which case you might decide to sell it.
BHoward6.6 12-28-2011, 10:51 AM Mines a regular cab so................
I think I'm going to do away with the 7 gal tank and buy the 2 1/2 gal to mount in my toolbox out of the way/ hid. Where does everyone mount their pumps? I'd rather not have to run wiring all the way back to my box, thought about mounting it on the underside of the intake base plate. I really want it all out of sight.
As for the nozzles I guess I'm going to have to drill and tap my EGR delete, I think it's thick enough material. Kicking myself now for not having them put a few extra bungs in :mad:
IIRC the ratio of meth to fuel is 10% to 25%, so with a 2.5 gal tank at 15% you will need to add water/meth every 15 gals of fuel. Pulling my 5th wheel I use 8~9 gals per 300 miles.
I have my tank and pump in the bed tool box:). Rather than drill and tap the EGR delete, I know mine (RDL's) is to thin. Drill it and weld the bungs to it.
1/4" NPT Bungs are about $4, unless they are ARP's, then it's $15:mad:.
kYrob 12-28-2011, 11:39 AM Some have used the stock def reservoir. Not sure what year models are compatible, but something to look at
GoneNomad 12-28-2011, 11:47 AM Some have used the stock def reservoir. Not sure what year models are compatible, but something to look at
I was thinking the same thing, but it looks like JD4440 has an '06
JD4440 12-28-2011, 12:05 PM IIRC the ratio of meth to fuel is 10% to 25%, so with a 2.5 gal tank at 15% you will need to add water/meth every 15 gals of fuel. Pulling my 5th wheel I use 8~9 gals per 300 miles.
I have my tank and pump in the bed tool box:). Rather than drill and tap the EGR delete, I know mine (RDL's) is to thin. Drill it and weld the bungs to it.
1/4" NPT Bungs are about $4, unless they are ARP's, then it's $15:mad:.
OK a little more on this. Do you have this kit ? I never tow so possibly it might last me till each fill up of 25 gallons. Do you use the big tank? My box is an inch too short :mad: Mine is one from Henry, same material I bet. I guess the bungs can be had at a hardware store or do I have to go to NAPA ? I know Snow wants $20 a piece for theirs !
BHoward6.6 12-28-2011, 08:36 PM OK a little more on this. Do you have this kit ? I never tow so possibly it might last me till each fill up of 25 gallons. Do you use the big tank? My box is an inch too short :mad: Mine is one from Henry, same material I bet. I guess the bungs can be had at a hardware store or do I have to go to NAPA ? I know Snow wants $20 a piece for theirs !
No, I have a cooling mist. In theory alone the ratio is 10%~25%. Since you never tow mabey you will be ok with the small tank. I made my tank out of 14" sch10 stainless steel pipe. It holds 9.2 gals. I think Herny just sells RDL's EGR deletes, same as mine. Summit has the bungs for $3, or you can get a 1/8" coupling from a hardware store and cut it in half.
I said 1/4" NPT, I Ment 1/8" NPT Bungs. 1/8" NPT is standard water/meth injector size.
JD4440 12-28-2011, 09:35 PM He did make their own with Paul in the beginning/ that's what I have. I'd love to make my own tank and mount it outside the frame. I don't really have anything to make it out of and it look nice. I hate that I'll mess up my powder coating but that's the pipe they screwed up any way. I didn't even notice the 1/4". I was thinking 1/8 the whole time after looking at Snow's bungs.
gonemax 12-29-2011, 10:28 PM Mines a regular cab so................
I think I'm going to do away with the 7 gal tank and buy the 2 1/2 gal to mount in my toolbox out of the way/ hid. Where does everyone mount their pumps? I'd rather not have to run wiring all the way back to my box, thought about mounting it on the underside of the intake base plate. I really want it all out of sight.
As for the nozzles I guess I'm going to have to drill and tap my EGR delete, I think it's thick enough material. Kicking myself now for not having them put a few extra bungs in :mad:
I put a 7 gal tank in the front of the bed drivers side .Mounted the pump on the frame under window washer tank in front of drivers tire then connected a y fitting from the 7gal tank to the window washer tank to the pump using the electronic solenoid on the line from the 7 gal tank that opens on command for methanol.My egt never goes down when using methanol in fact it rises.But you notice a big power difference instantly.Straight water might lower egt but I never ran straight water yet.
JD4440 12-30-2011, 05:16 PM I went ahead and ordered the 2 1/2 gal tank with my fluid. It wasn't that much and I have time to test fit both since I dropped the ball on ordering bungs for my egr delete till today.
JD4440 01-02-2012, 10:59 AM OK where has everyone mounted their controllers ? The way the harness comes out of this thing and it's shape are making it a little difficult. Best I've came up with is U-bolting it to the dash framework beside my brake box. I have the 40-20-40 bench.
I'm gonna hate it when I go to the track from now on but I guess the box will be come a permanent fixture once I get this stuff mounted in it and ran through the bed floor.
Robby Avery 01-17-2012, 04:12 PM JD4440 I have run the snow stage 2 kit for six years now and not a lick of trouble. I mounted my pump right below the windshield washer res. Two reason's I did this 1. the fluid has the shortest path to the pump and uses gravity to maintain fluid at pump inlet 2. The driver side fender liner provides a shield and hides the pump not many people would think to look there for performance adders. I'm not sure which controller box your refering to but if its the module between the main controller and the pump I mounted it with velcro on top (or side) of main fuse block. The main adj/gauge unit can simply be tuned to your liking and then hidden in the glovebox and mounted with velcro for ease of removal if you have a problem. And last but not least wiring was kept to a minimal amount due to the fact that my factory DIC tells me when my water/meth is low and know one ever knows but me because I used the windshield res.
Shaman 01-18-2012, 01:32 AM Bhoward, are you using the MPG Plus (http://www.coolingmist.com/instructions/cmgsdieselstage3mpgplus.pdf) settings with your Coolingmist kit?
BHoward6.6 01-18-2012, 10:16 AM Bhoward, are you using the MPG Plus (http://www.coolingmist.com/instructions/cmgsdieselstage3mpgplus.pdf) settings with your Coolingmist kit?
No, I have the VC2 diesel build a kit with the EGT option.
Shaman 01-18-2012, 05:10 PM Did you think about using the second stage?
JD4440 01-18-2012, 11:50 PM Thanks Robby. Your stage 2 may have a different controller/ monitor than mine. Since I mounted my tank in my toolbox the pump is right next to it. I think the hose was 10" between the 2.
I still have to get my freakin' bungs welded in my EGR delete .
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