Should I use Deep Rock, Aquafina, Fuji, or Arrow head water? What do you think is better for the ole girl?!:confused: ?! lol sorry

Ok he is the real question, I was told tonight that water will drastically help my EDGE better read my EGT's. For the first time I watch my EGT's when I stepped on the throttle. It jumped from about 700* to 1400* in about 5 seconds. He told me that water will keep the engine temps very low, so you dont have to worry about melting heads or ever watching your EGT's again.

Is this true? What else can you tell me about water as I might be buying a kit pretty soon if this is true. Thanks all

I tried to use as many W's in the title as I could. lol ):h

premium synthetic water, naturally. :)

Use distilled water. Any minerals will deposit inside the combustion chamber. I learned this by experience w/wi on a gasoline engine back in the '80s.

Actually, in a H20 inj'n kit, you'll want to be using deionized or demineralized water. Distilled H20 still contains disolved solids and minerals. As Marc states, you'll be scaling your combusion chambers.

BB

lmao...ok cool I was just gonna fill it from the garden hose.

But I still have the question of, will it drasticaly help with the EGT's??

cottonwood, distilled water has no minerals or particulate matter if a properly run unit. that is why use in batteries recommended, deionized and demineralized have current passed thru or filtered, unless demineral done by distillation.

lmao...ok cool I was just gonna fill it from the garden hose.

But I still have the question of, will it drasticaly help with the EGT's??


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lmao...ok cool I was just gonna fill it from the garden hose.

But I still have the question of, will it drasticaly help with the EGT's??

AT this point, water alone won't do what you want. I need to experiment with my water/meth mixture like others have mentioned here. I have not seen the reduction while towing full throttle like I thought. I can still get 1425* with all my mods and using the Juice on level 2.....( no stack). I will have more testing info soon. On level ground, EGTS stay low, big hills....can't seem to end the high egt's.

Keith, I make my living making water in a power plant. Deionized water is just that. No current will pass through water this pure as it contains no minerals. Distilled water on the otherhand, contains disolved and suspended minerals and solids. DO NOT USE distilled water in batteries. Ever. Might just as well put in tap water. However... distilled water is favorable in coolant systems, especially over tap water. Deionized water in cooling systems disassociates plated minerals(scale) and allows them to return to solution. Fine if you run a coolant filter. But this scale will plate out again and again, clogging your smaller cooling passages in the radiator and heater core.

BB

On Edit: Boy did I screw that up. Keith I owe you an appology. Upon further reflection, I realized my error in recommending only using DI water in your battery. You are correct. Use distilled water in your battery(but not tap water). The low level of minerals present are enough to allow current to pass through the battery's cells, thus allowing the battery to operate. And, distilled water is the choice for your cooling system as well. But I stand by my recommendation to only use deionized water in your water/meth inj'n kit. It's what I will use in mine.

Do not confuse distilled water with DI water. Deionized(demineralized) water is far lower in mineral content. Water purity, from a mineral concentration standpoint, is measured by how much electrical current it can pass. Home water softeners are high conductivity sources because of it's high sodium content. Distilled water or reverse osmosis produced waters are much lower in conductivity, typically around 5uS (microSiemens). DI water can be produced to as low as .5uS, however, the precense of air fouls the water and conductivity will rise as exposure increases. If kept in a sealed system this effect can be minimized and even removed, but it would be cost prohibitive for the privite user. Water is made purer, but it's cost per gallon rises substantially. We make water here so pure as to be used as an insulator. We use that water to minimize corrosion in our boilers and to cool stator fields in our generators. And our boiler water circulation pumps use this feed water as a coolant as it passes right through the motor's cavity and into the pump's suction. This water is not measuered by conductivity, but by it's resistivity(megaohms). The higher the better. This is DI water that has been polished to gain purity this high. And it is kept in a sealed, deaireated system. Well, I'll get off my little water rant, now. Thanks for listening.

BB

Further thoughts on what water to use in our W/I: Tap Water.

I got to thinking about how ugly windshield washer bottles get from long term use. You see a lot of the white scale buildup on top and on the sides of these bottles. That alone should lead a person to want to choose a purer water than say, tap water. But even using premixed windshield washer solution exclusively leaves behind these deposits. This leads me to believe it is more a housekeeping issue that a water source issue.

Besides, after a time the expense of buying special water in this pursuit would seem frivolous. It would/does to me. Concidering how much $ a gallon of so-called spring water or DI water costs to buy and the quantity required to support W/I... whew. I'm just not that rich. So this brings me back to our old buddy tap water. We all love to thrash the old horse, but the truth is it's just fine for this use. It's free, sorta'. We already paid for it when we paid our taxes. And it is pretty clean water when it's produced by any public municipality. It has to be. You're expected to drink it, cook with it, bath with it, wash your DuraMax with it... you get the idea. I'll stick with my affore mentioned preference to stay away from softened water, and I'm going to add well water to that list. Softened water will lead to heavy salt deposits and pluggage, and well water is usually high in iron deposits. And softened, well-water... get it analyzed first before you use it here.

That's about it for now. I've beat this old horse to death.

BB

CWB, I coudn't agree more on using DI in a perfect world. It's probably the only water that would be totally scale free.

But, you're right, as a practical matter, not many would have access to DI.

I'm sure that distilled would be a step up in quality from most people's tap water, however.

what if your kitchen faucet has a filter on it, which filters the tap water... in that case wouldn't filtered tap water be a good way to go also?

Dan

Dan, these filters are usually carbon filters, a lot like in an aquarium. They're good for taste and odor control. They make very little difference mineral-wise. Unless you are in a home that has older piping where scale or rust(iron) is an issue. They trap the big chunks. But every bit helps. I was just thinking that tap water as found in most municipalities have better water than from a lot of wells. At least around these parts. If you have access to true spring water, then use that. At least water found in town has to meet minimum standards set by the EPA and state agencies. If you can drink it without becoming ill, it's probably fine to use with your W/I set up. And the more you can filter it, the better. But at what point does it cost more than it's worth? That's up to you.

CWB

Thanks for the clarification, I had no idea if it would make a difference or not...

Dan

What about different grades of methynol, though??? I just got some from my gas man and he does propane filling also. He uses an ultra pure meth for adding to his propane to alleviate the freezing associated with propane delivery. This stuff is clear as water and is not "blue" at all. Do they dye washer fluid and some meth blue???

hdmod, I've been checking into this as well. I'm still looking. At the power plant where I work, we add a product to the propane deliveries called Vapo-Kleen. The msds only states that it is a "petrolium distilate"... However, when I look up methynol, this comes up as the cross-reference(?). I think I found it was produced and sold by a company called Bio Rad Labs, IIRC. When I know more, I'll post it here. We should put up a new thread about this...

CWB

10-4 Go for it!!! I am using RO water just FYI!!