so me and my dad were wanting to make bio diesel from pig lard. we own a meat cutting shop and have plenty of pig lard left over (50 gallons or more a week) so we did not want to just throw away.

i have been reading up on this for many weeks on end, and am finding many ways to make the bio diesel. but have not really known which to choose

so i am here to find some guidance hoping someone here knows well.

what recipe is to be used?
which supplies are needed for best product?

any help would be greatly appreciated

thank you

Moved to the bio diesel forum

pretty sure that wont work!

BS, it'll work just fine.

Animal fats have the same energy potential as veggie oils so long as they can get the fat melted down.

The only issue, especially with winter coming on, will be the higher gel point that the animal fat will have over veggie oil.

Go to Yahoo groups and join a group called "1earth"

There's some really good people there who freely share information and I'm sure would love to help you.

BS, it'll work just fine.

Animal fats have the same energy potential as veggie oils so long as they can get the fat melted down.

The only issue, especially with winter coming on, will be the higher gel point that the animal fat will have over veggie oil.

Go to Yahoo groups and join a group called "1earth"

There's some really good people there who freely share information and I'm sure would love to help you.

X2 on the animal lard.

I have had 2 samples of biodiesel I made 2 years ago that I have purposely left in a jar with water to test for gelling. The animal fat sample always gels first.

What I tended to do with animal fat biodiesel was pre-mix it with #2 prior to dumping in the tank. I found this helps.

What sort of set up are you planning on using? I built my own using some old propane tanks. I bearly have to filter due to the centrifuge affect of my tank

well i guess i learned something today!

MMMMMMMM trucks that smell like bacon

Unfortunately, none of them smell like you'd think they would. My oil comes from a KoC and they only fry Cod/Walleye/Catfish/French Fries...

Smells nothing like french fries or fish out the tailpipe.

My basestock is 100% soybean oil.

I have another buddy who makes it, and they only do fried chicken and french fries at his supplier. They use 100% peanut oil. His smells nothing like chicken or french fries.

I think the whole "smells like a fryer" going down the road is a myth.

thanks guys, not sure what kind of set up to make, just want to get ready for next season. gets far to cold up here to make any this year really, will give it a try next spring, what kind of set up do you have boothybunch?

I run retail bio in my truck and have never smelled the fryer smell some talk of. You can smell the bio vs. regular #2. I would like to try a tank of 100% home brew, but can't find anyone local making their own.

If you have the lard, I would start making your setup, then get some bio made up and run a small amount through the winter. 2% is a good mixture through the winter and I have personally run it in -20* weather without a issue, heck I have run 20% through my tow trucks at that temp and the truck drove better, and only took a few more seconds to start.

I have also gotten interested in "free fuel". But there is a lot to learn about bio-fuel and running straight WVO (waste veggie oil)
Home brew bio means filter then removing free fatty acids (among other things) and nutralizing the acids. That's the short version, but there is really nothing short about , it gets complicated and can get very expensive depending on what kind of equipment you buy or Make.
Or you can just do as a lot of people do ond just filter the heck out of a good quality waste oil, and put it straight into your tank. You can cut it with diesel so its not as thick,it goes thru your pump and injecters better. I've run 90% wvo in the summer with no problems.
Now comes the educational part, what or how to filter , what makes good donor oil , and then finding out that heating your oil before it gets to your injectors actually makes it burn a lot better. So a second tank with a heater and heated lines for the winter and summer make the most sence. Don't really need all that with true Bio-Diesel
I couldn't even think about pig fat as donor oil, it sounds very thick, that you might have to turn into bio, remeber you can make soap out of the bi-product, something all natural to wash up with after your done.
Regaurdless look into centerfuges , I bought a hydro-power vrs one that spins via direct motor, cost less, and has 1 motor to make everthing work, vrs seprate motors for pump and spinning the centerfuge. Pros and cons to both.
I purchased my stuff from pabiodiesel.com , owner Joe is great for explaining the simpleest and cheapest way to get things done, and will tell you what's BS and what you can get away with.

When you get that bad boy running on pig lard, be sure to drive it around the parking lot of the local Mosque!:D

Yeah, you can do that (run straight wvo) on pre-duramax engines... You try straight WVO in our engines and plan on buying a completely new injection system.

"Home brew bio means filter then removing free fatty acids (among other things) and nutralizing the acids."

Same thing, bud... The caustic (KoH) neutralizes the free fatty acids.

I have less than $350 in my complete bio-diesel processor, and the entire process is so simple a 14 year old with A.D.D. could understand it.

I was wondering about pig fat also. Theres about 200 wild hogs where my warehouse is at & multipling every minute. Thanks for the topic.

thanks guys, not sure what kind of set up to make, just want to get ready for next season. gets far to cold up here to make any this year really, will give it a try next spring, what kind of set up do you have boothybunch?

will get a picture and post it

Search this site...his name is Graydon and he knows his stuff..www.utahbiodieselsupply.com

Good luck! It should work just fine. Too bad your in Canada where it probably gets colder sooner and stays cold later in the seasons thus cutting the time you can run bio-diesel.

thanks for the help. appreciate it :)

Said I would post up some pics of my processor/settling tank

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