Have just bought a Hypertech power progrmmer lll that was to be for a 2005 but when it got to me it reads 2001 to 2004 I have a 2005 what would happen if I ran it. Thanks .:( Martin

Have just bought a Hypertech power progrmmer lll that was to be for a 2005 but when it got to me it reads 2001 to 2004 I have a 2005 what would happen if I ran it. Thanks .:( Martin

I doubt it will even load, BUT DO NOT ATTEMPT.

The computers are ALOT different, and your engine will not run with LB7 code.

I think they all say that. It will either load or it will tell you that your vehicle is not supported. I haven't had much luck with them for performance...

Send it in to Hypetech and they will get the latest Cal loaded so it will work. Do a search for an earlier post I made on getting the latest Cal. It is a hassle and a delay, but that is what happens with these programmers. They sit on the shelf, you buy, you ship, finally you get what you thought you were getting when you first opened the box.

I wouldn't worry about the performance, its all there and then some. Some highly sophisticated testing gurus on this site would lead you to believe that the Hypertech isn't worth a shiittt. It ain't true and those same people hype the hell out of other programmers, because they have a marketing alliance with them or whatever personal reasons they have for doing so.

Once you get the right Cal, you will be happy with the products performance for the money! If not, there are plenty of other products to meet your needs.

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I am running The Hypertech III part #30029 on my 2005 GMC with the LLY. I had the same concern and called Hypertech before installing. Tech says if it is a 30029 you are running the right program for your truck. This Programmer works great and will smoke the tires with a little brake to get the boost up. Got mine on clearance for like $250 can't go wrong...

OPPSS!! Sorry, normally it is not wise to use a tuner labeled for LB7's on an LLY or vice-versa. If it's supposed to work on your truck, give it a try.

To the Hypertech Clan:

How about some ET's? Dyno's? Saying something runs good without metrics to compare is kinda pointless.

Hypertech is one of the few LLY tuners I did not test. Perhaps I should some day. However, I've seen LB7 guys at the track/dyno with them, and the power is not competitive with other products.

McRat,
I think what he is saying is the hypertech runs fine and adds good safe power. It is not even close to a big hp tuner. I have tried it and it ran smooth and refined.......but if you are looking for ultimate power or low e.t.'s then its not for you, but if you are just driving around with some towing then it workd fine.

:exactly:

Every programmer or tune is set to achieve similar, yet different results! Why continue to bag on something when it clearly does what it claims to do? I don't get it!

Anyway, if you want to correct your speedo after installing large tires and want to grab some nice power, then the Hypertech will do it for less money than most.

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This is supposed to be good?

http://www.kennedydiesel.com/photogal/images/Hypertech-LLY-plot.gif

No, this is supposed to be good!

http://www.hypertech-inc.com/images/dynocharts/gm04056.6LLLY.pdf

My on-street experience, indicates the results in my truck closely resemble this dyno chart. All I am suggesting is that it does what it claims and is a good product for the money. If you want big HP/torque, there are other products that will get you there for more money.

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eeek!! (looking at JK's dyno chart) Whats "stage 1" supposed to be for? If you want less power and you want it to peak at 2250 RPM instead of 2200??

---Ben

I have a HT and an Edge. I got the HT for free and it does good for changing the speedo, as for power when towing and such there is no substitute for low end power. My edge made a huge difference even on the low settings. But I'm with you, for 250 bucks any power is better than no power.

Interestingly enough, Kennedy's stock numbers don't even get as high as Hypertech's stock numbers between 1800-2200 rpm. I trust the Hypertech numbers and dyno sheet, as I feel the results on the street.

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Well,we backed up these results on Fingers' truck as well. My dyno test simulates how it would act at WOT and with a heavy load sweeping the range over 12 seconds. No manipulation, no variance in test profiles, it takes the high setting of the Hypertech to come close to Edge on level 1 and even then, the curve isn't as nice...

Interestingly enough, Kennedy's stock numbers don't even get as high as Hypertech's stock numbers between 1800-2200 rpm. I trust the Hypertech numbers and dyno sheet, as I feel the results on the street.

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Yep, I would trust the manufacturer's advertising over an independant testers data too :rolleyes:
Kennedy has nothing to gain by "making up" data for the hypertech unit.

Yep, I would trust the manufacturer's advertising over an independant testers data too :rolleyes:
Kennedy has nothing to gain by "making up" data for the hypertech unit.

Now we have a pair of geniuses on the board! Let me break it down for you! Hypertech has been in business longer than anyone. They have more equipment and R&D to back up any product they sell, which is arguably more than anyone else. They also likely have the biggest market share when it comes to programmers.

So let me see, they drop a product on the market that doesn't meet the advertised claims, just because they can????? I doubt they would set themselves up with such a campaign, but I would bet the farm they could back it up.

So if Kennedy's data is so good, let's hire a lawyer and bust their balls! I will put up the first $5000 to get a crackpot lawyer from Wisconsin on board! If we win, I triple my money, if we lose, Kennedy sells that dyno to recoup my investment and we all accept that the product actually works!

Classic line, "why should we believe advertising?" "They are only out to sell us shiitt that surely doesn't work!" Careful rounding the corner, your shadow might scare you! I see you too are from Wisconsin, you boys might want to think about coming in out of the cold when the snow starts to fly. I see it is affecting your ability to draw rational conclusions!


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Now we have a pair of geniuses on the board! Let me break it down for you! Hypertech has been in business longer than anyone. They have more equipment and R&D to back up any product they sell, which is arguably more than anyone else. They also likely have the biggest market share when it comes to programmers.

So let me see, they drop a product on the market that doesn't meet the advertised claims, just because they can????? I doubt they would set themselves up with such a campaign, but I would bet the farm they could back it up.

So if Kennedy's data is so good, let's hire a lawyer and bust their balls! I will put up the first $5000 to get a crackpot lawyer from Wisconsin on board! If we win, I triple my money, if we lose, Kennedy sells that dyno to recoup my investment and we all accept that the product actually works!

Classic line, "why should we believe advertising?" "They are only out to sell us shiitt that surely doesn't work!" Careful rounding the corner, your shadow might scare you! I see you too are from Wisconsin, you boys might want to think about coming in out of the cold when the snow starts to fly. I see it is affecting your ability to draw rational conclusions!


:cool2:

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Test your programmer. Many of the folk on this board have spent more time and money testing these tuners than their retail sale price. I'm one of them.

I'm sure the Hypertech is a nice product. But when you compare price, performance, drivability, features, data logging, I'd be surprised if the HT beats the Predator in any measureable catagory. And the PPE will stomp it's **** in the dirt in a horsepower war.

If Hypertech wants to compete with the other diesel tuners, let's see them put some more effort into it. What they are selling now is not a competitive product. Or you can prove me wrong by dyno'g it and describing how all the features work.

Anyone who would believe a manufacturer's marketing "data" over that of an independant source is out of their wacky mind. Period.

McFly and OU812, this thread nor any of the other threads that I have logged in on regarding Hypertech were comparing Hypertech to other brands. Like I've stated Hypertech clearly spells out what performance gains can be expected and the product delivers. Even Kennedy's inconsistent testing shows that. However, he continues to compare it to everything else and claim it doesn't perform, when his own data corroborates that of Hypertech.

In one of the other threads, he stated that he tested it with an intake and exhaust. I don't buy it, cause he went out of his way to list the mods on the other dyno sheets, but failed to list anything during two tests with the Hypertech. Now tell me why I should buy into his test results anymore than Hypertech's. I can guarantee that Hypertech had more criteria, control, and analysis in their testing than he or any other independent does.

As soon as he can refrain from responding negatively to any of the Hypertech question threads, I will stop pointing out all the problems and inconsistencies with his testing. He simply cannot chime in on a Hypertech thread without leaving someone with misleading information based upon his own bias.

As far as me dynoing my truck, I probably won't be doing it anytime soon. I have spent plenty of time with dynos on my bikes and quads. When you are actually using them to tune (i.e., jetting, cams/timing, fuel mapping), they are a great tool. When you are simply running numbers, why bother! The progammers are simply plug 'n' play, not something you are going to tune. I can feel the performance with the Hypertech, the dyno would simply give me a slip of paper and a receipt for $100 to tell me what I already know!

As for the other programmers, it seems that most people are satisfied. I am glad they are getting what they expected and paid for, just like I am. I haven't found too many other people using the Hypertech who dislike it. That speaks for itself! I don't think Hypertech is trying to compete with overall power levels, but rather supply a product that delivers some nice performance gains.

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McFly ...!

Don't talk down to me son. You walk the walk enough miles and you'll be qualified.

I'm a "tuner whore". I've spent thousands of dollars testing LLY stuff.

You my friend, haven't.

Show us the beef. Do you REALLY want everyone to buy inferior products? Do you really want product development to sit still?

Until you can show data that indicates HT stuff is better than other products, your opinion is completely pointless. When you do? I'll be the first to apoligize. I said the Predator was a joke before I ran it. Why? I had run some of their gasoline tuners. I'm flexible, if something I test is good, I'll shout it from the mountains.

McRut, now don't go gettin' all red! I can tell you don't read too well, but go back to the original post. The guy asked whether or not he should try to install the Hypertech on his 05, when the packaging said 01-04. You first responded incorrectly, now you are getting way off track with the whole thread. I would expect more from a self proclaimed "tuner whore", but expect exactly this type of response from a "post whore".

Don't take this personally, strip out the rhetoric, and accept that the Hypertech performs exactly as their specs say it should. Why go and get into a big debate about how you will accept nothing less than the top in performance. Everyone buys what they buy and 95% of the population are satisfied if the product works as advertised. The other 5% will continue to try and satisfy themselves by putting down the what they don't want to accept.

I am guessing that you and Kennedy would biittch if your ice cream was cold!

:funnypost

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If I'm reading AXE correctly (response after response) he's not comparing HT to other products!!! Just stating HT works well for the $. I appreciate the independent testing but there only has been one on this board that I know of.

McRut, now don't go gettin' all red! I can tell you don't read too well, but go back to the original post. The guy asked whether or not he should try to install the Hypertech on his 05, when the packaging said 01-04. You first responded incorrectly, now you are getting way off track with the whole thread. I would expect more from a self proclaimed "tuner whore", but expect exactly this type of response from a "post whore".

Don't take this personally, strip out the rhetoric, and accept that the Hypertech performs exactly as their specs say it should. Why go and get into a big debate about how you will accept nothing less than the top in performance. Everyone buys what they buy and 95% of the population are satisfied if the product works as advertised. The other 5% will continue to try and satisfy themselves by putting down the what they don't want to accept.

I am guessing that you and Kennedy would biittch if your ice cream was cold!

:funnypost

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You need new music:

Steffenpuppy - Born to be Mild!

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I can accept mild on my truck. I've got a bike that does a 1/4 mile in just over 10+ sec. @ 130 mph. I can crank wheelies at 60 mph and run 'em out over 80 mph. When I have the need for speed it is just a blip of the throttle away. That's what 133 HP and 76 ft/lbs. of torque will do for you at around 500 lbs.

I am glad you are happy with your choice of equipment and setup. I am happy with mine!

:grd:

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I have 6 HYPErtech tuners. They make great wheel chocks. :stirthepo

Only an idiot would buy a 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, and even a 6th, after realizing the he didn't like the first! Classic, I wouldn't expect anything less from someone whose best take is - I bought six when I only needed one!

:lol:

You might want to plug one of those Hypertechs into that John Deere! Maybe you could actually pull a 60 foot chisel plow. Otherwise, you may as well trade the JD for a Case/IH.

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The Hypertech was the first programmer used on my 2001 LB7. I didn't have any issues with it, and it worked well. I had it on level 3 the whole time it was on my truck. I can't reply about the LLY Hypertech, however.