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TubeKing
08-19-2011, 12:42 AM
OK I talked to the local dealers truck guy today. He said the 2012 will have a new interior style. Meaning new fabric types, textures and foam contours as well as different dash burnishing and minor up content. He said he will have pics the end of next week? I have heard and read nothing to this effect anywhere. He said itsa hush hush as its about moving 11s . Humm,? Ill be there next friday for sure to see the "pics", we'll see.

Envelopo
08-19-2011, 01:54 AM
This says "minor interior enhancements" pic shows a 1500 LT interior, looks about the same at least from what you can see in the pic. http://silverado1500.net/2012-pictures-gallery/

Personally I am pretty happy with the interior on my 11 LTZ actually, except for no sunglasses holder. I am MORE happy with the motor, trans, frame, brakes and handling!

PrivatePilot
08-19-2011, 07:20 AM
Moved to new vehicle info/changes forum.

Navyrep1
08-19-2011, 12:49 PM
Sure looks the same to me.

k20
08-19-2011, 05:04 PM
If you click on the pic of that '2012 1500 interior' and then click it again like to make it bigger, the name changes to 2011 1500 interior.......

ryanryan
08-19-2011, 05:48 PM
Your truck guy is a liar or misinformed.........

2012 GMC Sierra 3500 with 6.6-liter Duramax V-8

http://blogs.cars.com/.a/6a00d83451b3c669e2014e8aa160ec970d-800wi

Although it’s a model year newer than the GM Heavy-Duty pickups we tested in the HD Shootout and Rumble in the Rockies, the GMC Sierra 3500 got only marginal changes, including improved messaging about diesel exhaust fluid levels.

The Sierra 3500’s 6.6-liter Duramax V-8 is rated at 397 horsepower and 765 pounds-feet of torque. For 2011, the Sierra and Chevy Silverado HD pickups got all-new front and rear suspensions, brakes, axles and fully boxed ladder frames. The eight-cylinder Duramax is the fourth generation of GM's HD diesel. Sixty percent of its hardware is new, and it’s 97 hp and 245 pounds-feet stronger than the original 2001 Duramax. GM says the new diesel engine is 11 percent more fuel efficient than the previous Duramax.

We’re big fans of the Duramax’s performance, as it has proven itself time and again over the past year, but our Fire Red Sierra continues to show its age inside. Like the Ram and Ford, our GMC in the midrange SLE trim had cloth seats, but the controls and colors made it feel stripped down. Black was the dominant color except for Spartan silver brightwork around the gauges, steering wheel and glove box. The rear of the Sierra felt cramped, especially with five adult males packed in during testing in Colorado.

http://blogs.cars.com/.a/6a00d83451b3c669e2015390b1a11b970b-800wi

The Sierra lacked running boards, making entry into the cabin more difficult compared with the other two trucks and exposing the large DEF tank hanging off the passenger side under the front door.

Pricing for 2012 GMC HD pickups hasn’t been announced yet, but based on 2011 pricing, we estimate the Sierra we tested would carry an MSRP of $55,710, the lowest of the three.

GMC's New Best-in-Class Towing and Hauling Ratings for 2012

On Aug. 15, General Motors announced that the 2012 GMC Sierra 3500 and 2012 Chevy Silverado 3500 claim best-in-class towing and hauling among one-ton pickups, continuing the one-upmanship trend that led to this test.

New rear springs, shackles, cargo box mounts and strengthened cargo boxes will enable the Sierra and Silverado HDs to tow up to 23,000 pounds with a fifth-wheel trailer, up from 21,700 pounds in 2011.

Sierra and Silverado will also lead the class in dually payload, with a 7,215-lb. rating for the 3500HD regular cab 6.0-liter V-8 gasser dually.

Finally, upgraded trailer hitch receivers increase conventional towing to 18,000 pounds, up from 17,000 pounds last year. All changes will be on 2012 models arriving in dealerships in the fourth quarter of 2011.

These changes don't have any impact on the HD Hurt Locker test or its results.

joeycoates
08-19-2011, 06:54 PM
Man, I am sorry but GM is way behind the curve when it comes to their interior. I have been a loyal GM fan for as long as I have been driving, as is my father. His room mate at college owns one of the largest GM (all brands) dealerships in North Texas. We have bought over 30 vehicle from him in the past 40 years. But having said that I am finding it hard to put an order in on a 12 after looking at the Ford KR interior. It is very nice. And while I know that the GM has better overall towing performance it is not night and day. Besides I have some goosenecks that we tow associated with our farm, but nothing enormous..

Envelopo
08-20-2011, 12:29 AM
I have to say that I am sorry too (for Ford that is), not to argue really, but I test drove the Ford and I found the interior AWFUL, I felt like I was sitting inside a stupid ass robot kids toy or something. Big weird plastic squared off instrument panel with big round air things all around sticking out and that huge SUPER DUTY word thing and all that. Oh and the grill, MY GOD. I can say I appreciated the storage which was way better than GM has right now (at least on the LTZ), and the dash info readout was way ahead of the current GM one, other than that I prefer the classy look of the "dated" Chevy LTZ interior over the Ford. Yes the buttons are small on the climate control, but you get used to em pretty quick and anyway you hardly have to touch them once you get your temp set. Plus, subjectively of course, the seats in the Chev are way more comfortable. I will say, one thing I really don't appreciate is how I have no readout for regen info or def tank level and it is stupid that there is no 4wd light on the cluster. I am looking forward to what GM comes up with for the updated version coming out in 13 or 14, I bet it will be a far better execution than either Ford or Dodge or Toyota (which is awful by the way) have now. That said I would never get one of them Fords just because I thought it had a better dash...just sayin but hell the thing has a Mexican made engine in its first year out with a real bad bad track record of 6.0 failures, 6.4 failures and another rendition of a cheap tranny that is supposed to work great in both their gas and their diesel trucks? Plus when I opened the hood on that big Ford it looked like just a big bunch of jumbled up mess. And oh yeah, that 60000 mile power train warranty put the last nail in the coffin for me on that one. I would even get a Dodge before one of the new Super Duties. Thats just me though, the truck does seem to be pretty fair in other ways, I guess.

I would definately stick with the LML. Best truck I have ever had so far in my life.

DURAtotheMAX
08-20-2011, 08:38 AM
what does everyone expect? The GMT-900 body/interior has been out since mid 2006 (calender year)

Does everyone not realize these trucks/SUV's are on a 7 year lifecycle? They always have been. Then all these idiots complain in the 6th year "oh well ya know it has a really dated interior, thats a big downside". NO SHIT SHERLOCK. Its not like they are going to redesign the interior every 2 years, so get used to it.

You only have to live with the GMT-900 body/interior for less than 2 more years, then we'll get a whole new interior/body, and then we'll leapfrog ford/dodge, and everyone will be saying the ford/dodge interior looks "old and outdated"/

over torqued
08-20-2011, 10:26 AM
what does everyone expect? The GMT-900 body/interior has been out since mid 2006 (calender year)

Does everyone not realize these trucks/SUV's are on a 7 year lifecycle? They always have been. Then all these idiots complain in the 6th year "oh well ya know it has a really dated interior, thats a big downside". NO SHIT SHERLOCK. Its not like they are going to redesign the interior every 2 years, so get used to it.

You only have to live with the GMT-900 body/interior for less than 2 more years, then we'll get a whole new interior/body, and then we'll leapfrog ford/dodge, and everyone will be saying the ford/dodge interior looks "old and outdated"/

I must say that I don't really care about my truck's interior aesthetics. As long as it's easy to operate, mechanically efficient and reliable, I don't care how out dated it may look. My truck has rubber floors, lever 4x4 and manual climate controls. I couldn't be happier. If I'm gonna worry about interiors, I'll drive a luxury sedan....

DURAtotheMAX
08-20-2011, 11:10 AM
I'm gonna worry about interiors, I'll drive a luxury sedan....

I think the interior on your B8 A4 more than makes up for the lack of "up to date" interior on your LML. :D :cool:

jmrkav
08-20-2011, 03:47 PM
To me, with an LT, the dash doesn't have a lot of flash but is very clean and well organized. The Ford dash is just over the top as is the styling in general.

Envelopo
08-20-2011, 06:03 PM
what does everyone expect? The GMT-900 body/interior has been out since mid 2006 (calender year)

Does everyone not realize these trucks/SUV's are on a 7 year lifecycle? They always have been. Then all these idiots complain in the 6th year "oh well ya know it has a really dated interior, thats a big downside". NO SHIT SHERLOCK. Its not like they are going to redesign the interior every 2 years, so get used to it.

I could not agree more. Seems like they are reaching for at least something to put in the negative column, afterall there has to be something bad, right?

In fact, when I think about it, GM trucks have always had a nicer interior. The 50s and 60s chevy trucks were nicer inside. I had a 77 Chev that had a way nicer interior than a comparable Ford or Dodge. The only really bad one was those weird gauges they had on the late 80s and early 90s ones, I think they fixed that in 95 or so. The GMT 800 interiors were the best out there by a long shot and I happen to think the GMT 900 interiors are great, and so it goes......

KEVINL
08-22-2011, 07:03 PM
Does everyone not realize these trucks/SUV's are on a 7 year lifecycle? They always have been.

Actually before that they were on a 12yr and 18yr life cycle This new 7 year stuff is weird :D

Envelopo
08-24-2011, 01:53 AM
Ok just found this definitive info on 2012 changes on the official GM Order Reference Guide site:

Chevrolet Truck Silverado 3500HD

Deletions

(DE2) Outside manual-folding Black mirrors
(UUK) Audio system with Navigation, AM/FM stereo with MP3 compatible CD/DVD player and navigation
(UUL) Audio system with Navigation, AM/FM stereo with MP3 compatible CD player and navigation
Exterior color (GGZ) Sheer Silver Metallic
(VBL) Aluminum bed extender, LPO

New Features

(UYS) Audio system with Navigation, AM/FM stereo with MP3 compatible CD/DVD player and navigation
(SB7) Z71 chrome decal, LPO
(SB9) 4x4 chrome decal, LPO
Exterior color (GAN) Silver Ice Metallic
(WEA) Z71 Appearance Package, available on 1LT and 1LZ

Changes

(DF2) outside high-visibility vertical camper-style mirrors are now standard on WT (was available in 2011)
(K34) Cruise control is now standard on 1WT (was available in 2011)
(L96) Vortec 6.0L Variable Valve Timing V8 SFI engine is now includes E85 capability when (E63) Fleetside pickup box is ordered
(SAF) Spare tire lock is now standard on 1WT (was available in 2011)
(PPA) EZ-Lift tailgate is now available on 1WT Fleet orders
(A60) Locking tailgate is now available on 1WT Fleet orders
(UUN) AM/FM stereo with MP3 compatible 6-disc CD player is no longer available on 1LT
(UE1) OnStar now requires (AU3) power door locks and (AU0) Remote Keyless Entry on 1WT Retail orders
Click on the blue links to change image

2500s are about the same. This is a very interesting site, check it out if you have not already: http://eogld.ecomm.gm.com/NASApp/domestic/proddesc.jsp?year=2012&butID=1&regionID=1&divisionID=1&vehicleID=11651&type=0#

Lindyn46
09-25-2011, 07:45 PM
I have on order a 2012 Chevy 3500HD DRW's LTZ, and it should be drop shipped any day now, its in shipment?? I for sure hope there is no changes at all, the 2011 Chevy 3500HD DRW's is the best GM 3500HD I have owned, the 2012 3500HD will be the 5th GM 3500HD we have owned. The 2011 GM 3500HD is by for the best all around GM 3500HD I have owned, keep in mind I'm downsizing from a Freightliner M2. Just finished a 6,850 mile trip to Colorado and pulled the Colorado Rockies with the 2010 Mobile Suites in tow. We went about the same routes in the Freightliner in 2010, the 2011 Chevy 3500HD performed as well as the FL, however it didn't ride as well. But the 2011 3500HD ride is the best of all our GM 3500HD's. Happy Trails....