NYTPA is inviting 3.0 and pro stock diesel trucks to pull at one of there events again, this one is at the gouverneur fair grounds http://www.gouverneurfair.net/ there pretty ez guys to get along with they will b happy just to c u there, there just big on saftey thats all, the main stuff u deff need is a helmet, suit, u joint sheilds, drive shaft loops, and shut off, they even allow a electronic shut off, they will test your shut off,

http://nytpa.com/schedule.html
$30 entry fee
registration ends 1.5 hours b4 event starts
drivers meeting is 1.5 hours b4 event starts

How did it go?

Idk I didnt get a chance to go I had prior plans!!

Doh, how was the showing for cobleskill?

three trucks they are all waiting for the next shootout show in Northampton Mass

Doh, how was the showing for cobleskill?

3 trucks showed

i live 20mins from cobelskill and had no idea that there was a diesel pull there this year because in years past they didnt have a diesel pull unless you were from schohaire co.

i live 20mins from cobelskill and had no idea that there was a diesel pull there this year because in years past they didnt have a diesel pull unless you were from schohaire co.


It was basically a hook for 3.0 trucks at what is normally a tractor and mod truck only pull. NYTPA is doing some invitationals for guys with trucks like Tom's to test the waters and see if its worth getting a class going.

so thats all they wanted there was 3 trucks??

so thats all they wanted there was 3 trucks??

I think they were hoping for 5 or 10. Obviously 3.0/prostock in the northeast isnt exactly a 40 trucks at every pull class.

After doing some reading over on Comp diesel, at a glance it seems like the mid atlantic pulling league started this year with a work stock and a 2.8 street class and seems like they are off to a good start.

I think it would be great for something like that to get going here in CNY, with between 15 and 20 pulls in a hundred mile radius that tend to yield ALOT of the same faces, i think its feasible. We just need some guys with some free time to get the ball rolling. I know tom ( im assuming ryan and gary know who i mean when i say tom) and another guy were working on it last year and the other guy fizzled out. I wish i had some time to contribute, but im just to involved in other volunteer efforts at this time.

i know for a fact this year the truck pulling #'s are way down alot of guys lost interest $$ problems trucks broke a few guys that pulled alot in the work stock class sold there trucks and every pull in the past few years have been open classes dominated by 2.8-3.0 trucks or trucks with tractor engines now there are some rules beeing applied but the # of trucks around that are pulling is down!

i know for a fact this year the truck pulling #'s are way down alot of guys lost interest $$ problems trucks broke a few guys that pulled alot in the work stock class sold there trucks and every pull in the past few years have been open classes dominated by 2.8-3.0 trucks or trucks with tractor engines now there are some rules beeing applied but the # of trucks around that are pulling is down!


What rules are being applied? Maybe the SPI pulls are a little more stringent, other than that its been business as usual for brookfield, lowville, boonville, herkimer and fonda etc. I know a few of the better running trucks have been MIA but the pulls ive been to have still had a TON of trucks at them.

Here's the situation with nytpa, NYTPA had a bunch of fairs and people asking them to start a diesel truck class, so NYTPA went to Tom and asked for his help with setting one up, they wanted bigger trucks like pro street trucks but sence they were having a hard time getting guys, they opened it up to 3.0 trucks, the nytpa guys really want to get this class going and there putting alot of support behind it, the big prob was it was announced too late in the season and alot of guys had prior plans!

Here's the situation with nytpa, NYTPA had a bunch of fairs and people asking them to start a diesel truck class, so NYTPA went to Tom and asked for his help with setting one up, they wanted bigger trucks like pro street trucks but sence they were having a hard time getting guys, they opened it up to 3.0 trucks, the nytpa guys really want to get this class going and there putting alot of support behind it, the big prob was it was announced too late in the season and alot of guys had prior plans!


AH, i was under the impression tom got in touch with NYTPA in a quest for an association. I didnt realize NYTPA was seeking to add a class. And that was my interpretation of Tom's words i heard directly from his mouth.

I think diesel pulling (truck pulling in general really) in CNY has the potential to be built from the ground up, where as trying to draw trucks from other associations probably isn't going to cut it. Then again maybe it will catch on, who knows.

thats what my first thoughts were too that he went to them, but last time i talked to him he said they came to him, but i think he is going to try and push harder next year to get it going again, i would love to c it get going, like i said there really happy to get this going and there putting up a good amount of money to get it going,

thats what my first thoughts were too that he went to them, but last time i talked to him he said they came to him, but i think he is going to try and push harder next year to get it going again, i would love to c it get going, like i said there really happy to get this going and there putting up a good amount of money to get it going,


Yeah, NYTPA hooking you guys with the tractors doesn't really help pulling in CNY, IMHO. Im sure it will be a great class, but with it being an entirely different schedule than the rest of the trucks pulls, i dont think it will grow very fast. I think you guys will draw a group of guys and unless some of the 2wd gas guys or tractor guys decide to cross over i dont see that class growing much. But hey, prove me wrong. I can say ill never step up to a class that runs on a different night than all the truck guys, because with the driveshaft work, the money for me invovles keeping the family business name floating around for those guys.

Ya I hear ya I hope it does get going too!! Maybe next year will b better!

spi offers 2.6 and 3.0 classes and numbers have been way down one pull had 4 3.0 trucks and one had 1 hope we can grow for next one on sept 23, 24

Where is the pulls sept 23-24 where can we find a posted schedule??

spi offers 2.6 and 3.0 classes and numbers have been way down one pull had 4 3.0 trucks and one had 1 hope we can grow for next one on sept 23, 24

Im not seeing any 2.6 info on your website, and i think you may find that cobleskill pull a little short on stock trucks with brookfield being the same day. Unless a bunch of the usual suspects ditch brookfield for cobleskill.

Where is the pulls sept 23-24 where can we find a posted schedule??

The website is here http://www.shootoutproductionsinc.com/index.html

the info is coming web designer slow lol the sept pull in Northampton Mass, were is this brookfield pull? who puts it on? so on?

the info is coming web designer slow lol the sept pull in Northampton Mass, were is this brookfield pull? who puts it on? so on?


Nevermind, that was a brain fart, brookfield is the same weekend as northampton. Brookfield is about 20 mins south of Utica, they have a pull at at the fair(madison county) early in july, then they do a seperate wheel days the end of september with pulls and a demo derby. Typically about 40-50 diesel trucks and a TON of gas trucks.

well i hope they make it to cobleskill

well i hope they make it to cobleskill


Barring any unforseen circumstances, i'll be there.

well i hope they make it to cobleskill

What classes will you have at Cobleskill? What date is the actually diesel pull and when does it start?

check out website for rules and event calender for diesel classes www.shootoutproductionsinc.com

all are diesel classes will be on sat that weekend the website now has rules and schedule for northampton pull www.shootoutproductionsinc.com

all are diesel classes will be on sat that weekend the website now has rules and schedule for northampton pull www.shootoutproductionsinc.com (http://www.shootoutproductionsinc.com)

Ok great! When does the pull start? Also can we pull in two classes if our trucks meet the rules for each given class? I may have a bunch of trucks that should be able to run both classes. Just want to be sure, are lift pumps allowed in the work stock class?

gates open 10am pull starts noon i think try coming to mass pull just as close to long island

gates open 10am pull starts noon i think try coming to mass pull just as close to long island

Id like to but I already have prior plans...I will be up there at Cobleskill for sure though.

Ok great! When does the pull start? Also can we pull in two classes if our trucks meet the rules for each given class? I may have a bunch of trucks that should be able to run both classes. Just want to be sure, are lift pumps allowed in the work stock class?


I don't see anything in the rules about lift pumps. But it also says limited mods permitted and tech officials have final say of legality Of constetant.

I would also like to pull stock and 2.6 if possible. if the truck holds together for more than one class. I've been having slight issues with that lately. It should be pretty good now though.

I don't see anything in the rules about lift pumps. But it also says limited mods permitted and tech officials have final say of legality Of constetant.

I would also like to pull stock and 2.6 if possible. if the truck holds together for more than one class. I've been having slight issues with that lately. It should be pretty good now though.

Just figured Id ask before driving up there. You gonna make it up there?

I'm planning on it. I pulled at the SPI altamont, ny pull. They run a pretty good operation. Nice and smooth really fast moving. Really poor turnout though(same day as the big pull in Numidia,PA). I hope their next one will have more trucks.

Count me in for mass!! I'll b up that way that weekend

wtg Gary the lift pump ? email the spi email adress and they will forward to proper person to answer?

ok Gary your next chore find a couple more lol

you guys can pull 2 weekends in a row that will be cool

Post up response to the lift pump question when you get an answer please

what jakebrakeIH (pete) is asking is if he can pull 2 classes such as 'work stock" and "2.6 diesel" at the same event if i were u i would let them it will attract more pullers because it makes it more worth wile for pulls to come!!

ok Gary your next chore find a couple more lol

lol i will honestly do my best!!

what jakebrakeIH (pete) is asking is if he can pull 2 classes such as 'work stock" and "2.6 diesel" at the same event if i were u i would let them it will attract more pullers because it makes it more worth wile for pulls to come!!

Yea exactly. I know of a bunch of guys that will come, especially seeing we can get two hooks in one day. That will make the trip well worth it!

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I may be able to get 4 or 5 dodge guys to come up and pull.

I know a guy that has a 2.6 cummins but it's not registered, has a hood stack, and fuel cell. Is he S.O.L. for SPI events?

Yea exactly. I know of a bunch of guys that will come, especially seeing we can get two hooks in one day. That will make the trip well worth it!ahem...one hook..:(.

ahem...one hook..:(.

You made your bed, now lay in it lmao. :D

I may be able to get 4 or 5 dodge guys to come up and pull. That would be cool!

I know a guy that has a 2.6 cummins but it's not registered, has a hood stack, and fuel cell. Is he S.O.L. for SPI events?


S.O.L., it depends. The rules state:


Truck must have a valid DOT registration and license plates.

Stacks exiting through the hood or fender-well are prohibited.

I did not see anything about the fuel cell, so he should be OK on that.

If he is not willing to remedy those (exhaust is easier and cheaper to deal with than registration), then I would say he would not be able to compete in the class. If he chooses to correct those, I would say he would be OK (I assume from they way you worded your question he is not willing though).

A question to the SPI officials. Will there be an "open" or "fun" or "run whatcha brung" (or whatever you want to call it) class for any guys who make the trip yet know and/or find out they do not fit into a specified class (assuming the vehicle is safe to hook)? It would be a shame to turn them away, but I also know the show has time constraints....knowing that they could at least hook to the sled for test/exhibition may entice them to at least make the trip.

One thing the 2.6 guys need to be aware of is:


Batteries: The batteries must be securely mounted. They may not be located in the driver compartment or forward of the radiator core support

Some guys have moved their batteries to the weight box and per the rule that is not allowed. Moving them back to their OEM location and/or to a spot behind the core support should not be an issue. I know several vendors who sell battery box/mounts that will mount to the frame for GM guys who are running twins (and must move the second battery) and should be easily adapted to Ford or Dodge for minimal cost.

Just trying to make people aware ahead of time.

S.O.L., it depends. The rules state:


Truck must have a valid DOT registration and license plates.

Stacks exiting through the hood or fender-well are prohibited.

I did not see anything about the fuel cell, so he should be OK on that.

If he is not willing to remedy those (exhaust is easier and cheaper to deal with than registration), then I would say he would not be able to compete in the class. If he chooses to correct those, I would say he would be OK (I assume from they way you worded your question he is not willing though).

he totaled the truck then bought it back from his insurance company and made it into a pulling truck. The truck has a salvage title due to the crash. I'm pretty sure there's no way he could register it how it is. I don't think he wants to change how its set up either

he totaled the truck then bought it back from his insurance company and made it into a pulling truck. The truck has a salvage title due to the crash. I'm pretty sure there's no way he could register it how it is. I don't think he wants to change how its set up either

I completely understand, and would probably do the same thing (why pay registration and insurance on a "salvage" vehicle). But as stated with the guy that backed into something by accident, if exceptions were made for one (even if odd circumstances), they would have to be made for everyone else.

Around here, the only thing he would fit into would be the 3.0 class, and with a 2.6 turbo it would probably not do well :(

With MATPA he could pull for fun, but not sure if SPI, SNETPA, or others do that (does anyone know if they do)?

Edit: The rain finally stopped so I should be able to get a measurement after work for you.

The sad thing is I pulled against that truck 4 times this year and beat it pretty bad every time. He pulled at the MATPA pull in goshen, ct

A measurement from the tailgate to the back of the bumper would be just as good no?

The sad thing is I pulled against that truck 4 times this year and beat it pretty bad every time. He pulled at the MATPA pull in goshen, ct

A measurement from the tailgate to the back of the bumper would be just as good no?

I will provide both measurements (actually will use the rear bed pan as not all trucks compete with tailgates). We stated centerline of the rear axle as years ago we had guys slotting the holes in their frames and sliding the beds up against the cab to "cheat" when we had the "past the sheet metal" rule. Their argument was that the rules did not state they could not move their bed (they were from the mentality that if the rules don't explicitly state you cannot do something then you can, whereas we are stating just because it's not explicitly stated in the rules, doesn't mean it's automatically legal). Rules in black and white don't always show intent. The tech's in our club know the intentions of the rules and of the class (for rules that haven't been explicitly addressed), and use that as guideance when something new/questionable comes up.

Edit: Most likely MATPA techs will use a combination of the two measurements (axle centerline and distance from rear bed pan) as axle centerline can change a little due to aftermarket springs, lift blocks, etc.

As for the other truck that you beat, yes there could be a truck that has no power, is not setup for pulling, would get it's butt handed to him by a bone stock truck, but if it doesn't meet the rules, it doesn't meet the rules. MATPA will allow him/her to pull, but not for any prize money.

I completely understand, and would probably do the same thing (why pay registration and insurance on a "salvage" vehicle). But as stated with the guy that backed into something by accident, if exceptions were made for one (even if odd circumstances), they would have to be made for everyone else.

Around here, the only thing he would fit into would be the 3.0 class, and with a 2.6 turbo it would probably not do well :(

With MATPA he could pull for fun, but not sure if SPI, SNETPA, or others do that (does anyone know if they do)?

Edit: The rain finally stopped so I should be able to get a measurement after work for you.

Well for starters if you own your own home have a bunch of toys/assets etc. and wipe out the fence and a line of spectators at a Fair pull that has minimal insurance, your not going to own your own home any more there next of kin is.

If spectators are allowed close enough as to where that is even possible I would think it would be the fault of whoever is running the operation not the vehicle operator. There should always be jersey barriers and an adaquit distance between the track and the spectators. But that's not always the case. If not make the spectators sign a waiver like we do

With MATPA he could pull for fun, but not sure if SPI, SNETPA, or others do that (does anyone know if they do) minus the hood stack he'd fit no problem

If spectators are allowed close enough as to where that is even possible I would think it would be the fault of whoever is running the operation not the vehicle operator. There should always be jersey barriers and an adaquit distance between the track and the spectators. But that's not always the case. If not make the spectators sign a waiver like we do


Doesn't matter whos fault it is, whoever was involved is going to get sued. Waiver or no waiver, some ambulance chaser will go right down the line and try to squeeze a nickel out of everyone who was involved other than there client. Maybe some of the guys who are involved with the clubs can chime in and confirm that whether the trucks running the class are registered and insured weighs on the cost of insurance for an event.

ok lift pumps are allowed if they are NOT engine driven!He sled head check out website your a celeb lol

ok lift pumps are allowed if they are NOT engine driven!He sled head check out website your a celeb lol



I'm a celeb? Where do I look?

go to event for hamp big boy toy show
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Haha sweet. To bad theres not a pic of the rear driveshaft flying out of it

are you coming up here for the show and how many coming with you?Also are going to cobleskill the following weekend and how many are coming with you there?

Id like to go again. I'll try to make the northhampton pull. I'm gonna try to get some guys to go with me. 6 of my friends pull. it may take some convincing. Some won't pull that far from home because it makes for a pretty big tow bill. Speaking of that Last time I pulled up at the altamont pull it ended up taking me almost 5 hours to drive back home In front wheel drive :) Thank god for michelob ultra cans. They are almost the exact size of the slip yoke on my truck. Sealed up the t-case mint.

I'll have to think about the cobleskill pull but I'm leaning towards going

just go even if you watch!! both will fun

If i go I'm gonna pull. I honestly could care less about watching. I just really love hammering on my truck

If i go I'm gonna pull. I honestly could care less about watching. I just really love hammering on my truck

Lol don't we all