I would eventually like to get a gooseneck trailer for my 2500HD and can't decide between a single wheel trailer or a dual wheel trailer. I don't really want to lug around more trailer than I really need and the dual tandems seem to be pretty heavy. I think it would be self-defeating to get a really heavy trailer that would cut down on my capacity. However I don't want to buy less trailer than I need.

I plan on using it for moving assorted trucks/cars and a 8k tractor w/ equipment that we have. I would like the trailer to be long enough to haul a lwb fullsize pickup with an ATV in front of it on the trailer. 90% of the time the trailer would have less than 9k loaded on it.

I would possibly like to move around a 12k tractor too, and if a dual tandem would allow me to do that I might consider getting one of them.

I plan on putting airbags on the truck to help level it. I don't ever really plan on getting dually.


Is getting a big heavy dual tandem a waste with a 3/4 ton? Would that kind be the tail wagging the dog? Would I be better off with a single? Or would the dual tandem prove to be even more of an asset with when pulling it with a srw 3/4 ton?

Comparing a dual tandem to a single of the same length, what would be the weight difference? Most of the singles I have seen were quite a bit lighter but most were shorter, too.

One thing to keep in mind, a dual-tandem trailer does pull quite hard....
If you plan on hauling heavy equipment though, that might be your only choice :(

I personally have a BIG TEX 22GN. It is a dual tandem with a 24 foot deck and a 5 foot dove tail. I have a 2500hd. I have had to trailer pull everything from 2 jeeps to Colorado to a 17,000 lb Backhoe. I love it. It hauls anything I want to put on it. THe only downside is that it wieghs about 7,000 lbs empty. THe truck has no problem with it and it pulls like a champ. If you think you are going to put 12,000 lbs on it you might want the dual tandem. My motto is that if you get a large trailer you are not limited and if you ever need to sell it, that will be an easy task. Good luck and hope this helped.

Also you might look at the Timbren rear helpers in stead of airbags. They replace the bumpstops and only come in contact when the truck springs sit down 1". The truck rides like stock when unloaded and rides great with a heavy trailer. The upside is that you have no air lines or bags to rupture. I love mine. They have been on the truck for 3 years and 142,000 miles.

Also you might look at the Timbren rear helpers in stead of airbags. They replace the bumpstops and only come in contact when the truck springs sit down 1". The truck rides like stock when unloaded and rides great with a heavy trailer. The upside is that you have no air lines or bags to rupture. I love mine. They have been on the truck for 3 years and 142,000 miles.

Tell me more in an e-mail please.

Tell me more in an e-mail please.

Feel free to post it here, we could all use the info...

Yeah...What he said! Please post it here. Thanks

So does no one else have any other opinions regarding my original post? :confused:

I have a tandem axle single wheel 28' total length with 4' dove. I love this trailer for everything I haul atv's on it. I haul anywhere from 8-11 round bales on it weighing about 100-1500 lbs a piece. Every once in a while i will put my JD 5410 with a loader on it. This tractor weighs about 10-11,000lbs with the tires full. It also has more than enough room for a pickup and a atv combo. Hope this helps

We have two Hillsboro dual tandem trailers on our farm. One 29' and one 33', both 23500 gvw. We haul equipment and hay and straw with them and they work great. My 2500HD handles either trailer just fine. We have loaded them up to 29K GCW. True, dual tandems are heavier, but they give you the capability to haul big loads. The 29' weighs 6600lbs and the 33' weighs 7400lbs. Heavy units, but worth it. They both have adjustable dovetails as well which is really handy feature. We are thinking about selling the 29' because we don't really need both anymore. Give me a PM if interested.

i bought a case backhoe and a 30' dual axle single tire trailer. it had 4 new tires, the hoe weighs 12000lbs we blew 3 tires in 40 mi the trailer is rated for 16000lbs but not the tires, i converted it to duals, its the only way to go. of course it was 95+ degrees, still it snake bit me it may weigh a little more but its worth it. you can haul a small load on a big trailer but not a big load on a small trailer. both are for sale now

Ok, so it definitely does not sound like pulling a dual tandem with a SRW truck is going to be that unusual or creating a tail wagging the dog" scenario, especially if I am going to put some sort of air suspension or something on the back. Plus, I am planning on keeping my 14k bumper pull.


DMF Dmax,

Do you mean adjustable dovetail as in you can raise it up to create a level deck? How does it raise?

I can post a few pics tomorrow, but for now here is a desciption. THey look like full air bags, but made of solid rubber. You simply unbolt the 2 bolts that hold on your rear bumpstops and remove them. The Timbren unit goes back in its place. When you load your truck up and the springs compress about 1" the load then sits on these helpers instead of all the weight on the leafs. Same principle as an air bag but no need for air or air lines or worrying if they will work. I believe that they add 5600 lbs of extra load capacity. I use my truck for construction and have been really been impressed. THe largest load I have ever had on them was this summer, I carried 6000 lbs of gravel in the bed of my truck, with a trailer that had 14,000 lbs of gravel on it. The truck sat almost level. The only down side is that they limit axle articulation, but I mainly tow and sled pull with my truck so this doesn't matter.

Hope this helps, pics to come soon.

Hey I just saw you are from TN...where at?

Memphis area. Now that you say that, you aren't too far away. The place I bought those from is hear in town. .

I have both types = 2 dual axle single tire and one dual tandem. We use them everyday hauling my wheel loaders. They haul 9000 lb machines daily with no problem. I use the dual tandem for hauling my tractors/ harvesters but I have put these same big pieces of equipment on my smaller trailers with no problem.

did you ever think of a single triple. my friend has a 40'+5' single triple, and i have towed it many times and it is a great trailer. the trailer has 22-25,000 rating.

Memphis area. Now that you say that, you aren't too far away. The place I bought those from is hear in town. .


Where did you get them? $$?

did you ever think of a single triple. my friend has a 40'+5' single triple, and i have towed it many times and it is a great trailer. the trailer has 22-25,000 rating.


I have thought about one of those (and actually started a new thread about them). I have heard they scrub badly when making sharp turns though. Did you have any problems with that?

I have thought about one of those (and actually started a new thread about them). I have heard they scrub badly when making sharp turns though. Did you have any problems with that?

i never realy had that much of a problem with it but i wasn't turning that sharp with a heavy load.

I have a PJ 23' with a 5' dovetail tri-axle Gooseneck rated at 21000 lbs. I have had a a 9000 lb load on it and my 2500HD handeled it just fine.:grd: I did make a u turn and I know the tires would scrub. I try to plan my turns so they are easy ones but sometimes you just can't do it.:eek:

My 2 cents Cosgr:D ve

Thanks guys. That is a good looking rig. I think that might be just the thing for me.....

I have a Delta 24' dual axel dual tire 20foot deck 4 foot dovetail (rasiable) (sp). I cant say I have pulled anything huge with it to date, a 93 Z71 extended cab, a beeter 84 toyota and a bobcat with bucket and seperate landscaping attachment. I beleive the trailer is rated for near 21000. It has handled everything good so far. I bought it with the idea if i need to tow something it will handle the load.

From an eailier post

My motto is that if you get a large trailer you are not limited and if you ever need to sell it, that will be an easy task.


Good luck

We use a single tandem 20' with 4' dovetail. We regularly put 12 5'X5' rolls on it and tow into the mountains of SW VA with nary-a-hiccup. The trailer was special-ordered with much bigger I-beams than are normally put on trailers of the same size, though I do not know the wieght rating off the top of my head.

Here's an older pic with a NH4630, which is 5,200 lbs, plus the canopy, loader, etc.

So tandem duals would be better than a triple axel on a 34'-40' trailer?

I recently contemplated the same thing you are considering and borrowed a few diffrent trailers before deciding on a purchase. I went with a 25' (20' deck 5' beaver tail) Pro-Trac with dual tandems. The trailer weighs 6,000 lbs. unloaded and has GVWR of 22,000lbs. This means a payload of 12,000 lbs. you could go slightly higher if you account for tongue weight, but with all 2500 and 3500 D-max your rated limit is 15,500 lbs trailer weight or 22,000 GCVW (truck and trailer) So to stay in the recommended area I can hall 9,500 pounds on the trailer. The same size trailer in a single tandem is rated for 14,000 lbs and unloaded weighs 4,750 lbs. so payload = 9,250 lbs. plus some for tongue weight.
I purchased the trailer to tow a JD 110 backoe, box scraper, 4 backoe buckets, and a 30" auger ( about 9,000 lbs.)
I chose to go heavier in order to avoid potential blowouts on more then one occassion I have had heavy loaded single tandem trailers blow one tire and before stopping the other tire on the same side would blow, this usaully happens when it is hot and with only one spare you have to find a mobile tire repair service not cheap or fun. The dual tandem allows for additional equipment or the ability to hall heavier equipment down the road although by GM's reccomendations I am just about max out for the Dmax.
I am very pleased with the setup and the dmax pulls it nicely and could pull alot more IPO.

Because I live in the hills I did just recently install a BD exhaust break which makes a signifigent diffrence on those steep windy downgrades. It really isn't needed for mostly flat hauling or slight down grades.
If you are haling a lot of cars thoug you might consider a low bead triple to make loading easier although the price goes up and you have to worry about tire scrubbing.
If you go the flat bed route the dual tandem is the better choice then the triple axle.

hog face, do you have a 3500 or a 2500HD?

01Duramax6spd- dual tandems would be the best way to go on a trailer that length, our 44 ft has dual tandems, but our 42 ft has triple singles. You will just have to make sure that the tandems are not placed to far back on the trailer, so that not all your weight is on the truck. I have seen a lot of trailers around here have that problem. The triple singles pulls a lot smoother, but the down side it turns a little harder. And if you get a flat tire when your loaded; dual tandems you can limp to a safe place and fix it, triple singles- your screwed!!