Never pulled before but planning to in a few weeks at a local Harvest Festival/Truck pull gig in a small town nearby. Just got my SD nitrous kit last week and will be putting on shortly. In reading the pulling rules anything mods puts me in the modified class so it would seem it wouldn't matter if I ran with TTS extreme only or with NOS? Should I use NOS or is that a bad idea? I figured I might screw myself depending on the number of pulls I do and running out of NOS. If NOS is okay to use is there any strategy in using it ... I.e. pulling first without it and later with it? I'm a newbie to all this so I'm sure the questions speak for themselves :)

Never pulled before but planning to in a few weeks at a local Harvest Festival/Truck pull gig in a small town nearby. Just got my SD nitrous kit last week and will be putting on shortly. In reading the pulling rules anything mods puts me in the modified class so it would seem it wouldn't matter if I ran with TTS extreme only or with NOS? Should I use NOS or is that a bad idea? I figured I might screw myself depending on the number of pulls I do and running out of NOS. If NOS is okay to use is there any strategy in using it ... I.e. pulling first without it and later with it? I'm a newbie to all this so I'm sure the questions speak for themselves :)

Well, usually you don't get to pull more than once or twice with all the pulls that I've been to. Depending on the nitrous jet size that your using will determine how many runs you will be able to make. A .120 jet is good for only two pulls or runs at the dragstrip on a 15lb bottle.

I usually hit the nitrous at the 100ft mark, that gives you enough time to get the sled moving and will give you a good jump in ground speed if you have the bite on the track. Sometimes hitting nitrous can actually hurt you in sled pulling, if you don't have the traction to get a good bite with just the extreme then nitrous will do you no good.

Also remember to bring something to weigh you truck down with that can also be removed if needed. If you have a weight bar great, if not throw something in the bed of the truck if they will let you. You want to have you truck right at the weight limit, and having something like cinder blocks or something that can be taken out if your over weight will help you insure that you can meet your weight. You will also know if hitting the nitrous will be a good thing by the time you hit the 100ft mark, if the truck is biting real good and loading hard with all the traction then hit the nitrous, if your spinning hard and not grabbing traction by 100ft then hitting the nitrous will have little effect, if not hurt your distance.

Hope this helps!!

Cheers, Wade

Thanks Wade, that was the info I was looking for. So basically play the NOS by ear pending track conditions. Got it. I don't have a weight bar and probably won't be doing a lot of pulling. This is just an annual local event where I'll be pulling against a lot of old Ford/Dodge friends/farmers. Last year there was only 1 dmax out of about 30 trucks.

I did note in the rules they don't allow free weights or anything that could slide around. I do have Caltracs and clamps to clamp rear springs and sleeves up front with cognito braces. I will also lower tbars down. I haven't even got the NOS completely installed ...just have tank and line to solenoid to install then will start playing with it.

The only thing I'm still a little confused by is the class I would run in based on their classes ...assuming my weight will be somewhere between 7000-7500 lbs. Initially I thought I'd be in the 4x4 modified ...then I see they have a separate diesel class. Not sure I'd run in class 'T.' or 'TT.' ...assuming TT?

O. 6001-7000 2WD STOCK
P. 6001-7000 2WD SUPER STOCK
Q. 6001-7000 4WD STOCK
R. 6001-7000 4WD SUPER STOCK
S. 7001-8000 4WD STOCK
T. 7000-8000 4WD SUPER STOCK
U. 8000-10,000 OPEN
V. 10,000-14,000 OPEN
W. 14,000-20,000 OPEN
X. 20,000 - OPEN
Y. 20,000- UNLIMITED LOG TRUCK
Z. 20,000- UNLIMITED DUMP TRUCK
PP. 0 -6500 DIESEL STOCK
QQ. 0 -6500 DIESEL SUPER STOCK
SS. 6501-8000 DIESEL STOCK
TT. 6501-8000 DIESEL SUPER STOCK

Here's is the full class and rules/info.
http://www.sublimityharvestfest.com/info/WebPullingRulesWeights2005.pdf

Make sure you turn off the spray before you let off the throttle;)

Well by reading their rules you could try and run in the stock class since you have no "motor" modifications, but I highly doubt that they will let you run in that class regardless of what the rules say, especially when they see your truck run!!!, after all the tech inspector has the final say.

Looks like you will be running in the Super Stock class from what I can tell, I would see if having all the weight in you bed strapped down would allow you to have it back there. I know at Pueblo this past weekend they allowed cinder blocks and other misc stuff in the bed as long as it was strapped in. I would do everything I could to add as much weight to your truck as possible, trust me the heavy trucks will have a big advantage, and your truck will most likely be much lighter then most of the Fords and Dodges.

Cheers, Wade

Make sure you turn off the spray before you let off the throttle;)

Forgot to do this at Pueblo this weekend, lets just say people were hitting the deck when the truck had a huge nitrous backfire!!!! I'll post the video when I find a host.

Thats why and its JMO but you should have your truck wired on a WOT switch....even if activation is based on boost or a hand held ect it should not kick on unless your at WOT. Eithe a micro switch or something that reads TPS like what I have. JMO :)

I agree, the hobbs isn't the safest thing to use, I hear Eric Lowe has some pretty cool stuff, I'll probably give him a call. I hear he is the resident nitrous expert!!! ;)

Hmmm, perhaps I'll just stick to #2 and the Extreme :) So I want to be as heavy as possible? ...I had it backwards thinking less weight is what I wanted. I have a truck chest ...could put about 400 lbs from my cast iron weight set in there...if they would buy that. The weight would be contained in the chest ...

Put 2x4's or something under the box......all that weight may damage things :eek:

More weight better!

Just set it up like how you normaly would with a toggle switch but have it wired with WOT switch as well for added saftey......or just make damn sure you let off the fun button when you start spinning out and dont lift till you are off the spray.

Dont be a weenie! Spray it :p: ):h

I'll be out of town and you can use my bottle if you want an extra.

Put 2x4's or something under the box......all that weight may damage things :eek:

More weight better!

Just set it up like how you normaly would with a toggle switch but have it wired with WOT switch as well for added saftey......or just make damn sure you let off the fun button when you start spinning out and dont lift till you are off the spray.

Dont be a weenie! Spray it :p: ):h

My box is the chest type that mounts/sits directly on bed so no 2x4's needed BUT I was going to mount my bottle in the box so the bottle and weights WOULD'NT mix very well :) If you can PM me with info on the WOT switch ...want to know where to get one and how it hooks up, etc. I think I'd prefer that route over the hobbs.

I'm not a weenie :)

I'll be out of town and you can use my bottle if you want an extra.

What a buddy :ro) but I don't think they'll let you touch a truck after tech ...which would include changing bottles. If I only pull twice I'll be fine ...otherwise I'd be screwed.

If I spray use 3rd gear low range tow/haul?

Those rules are hilarious!

You'd never get away with nitrous around OH-PA-NY-WVa. It is outlawed everywhere.

Seriously, though, you're gonna need all the weight you can get up front. Beg or borrow some suitcase weights and fab up a bar.

Someone with a hot Dodge with front weights and a front locker will eat your lunch.

Also funny - no turbo limits on number or size. Ouch!

Yes, the rules are well ...lacking, but then again this is a very small event that happens once a year in a town of 3K people. It's more of a run what you brung type event and most of the pickups are completely or near stock. It will probably be one of the only times I pull with my truck so I'm not trying to get to a Tomac level or anything. I just want to have a respectable outing and cover the basics. I think I'll do well with just the Extreme, traction bars and clamped springs. We'll see. :)

Oh, and this year is the first year where they actually have separate diesel brackets. In previous years all gasser/diesels ran in the same brackets ...until all the gassers started complaining they didn't have a chance agaist a diesel :)

If there is a chance to run spray I sure as heck would!!!! If you really wana bend your neighbors noodle tell em you forgot to turn the chip to race mode......it didnt even smoke that time see ):h

Oh, I can spray if I want to ...no rules saying otherwise. It's just a matter of me knowing when/what to do without screwing up. I've never pulled before and have yet to run nitrous. Have kit installed but waiting on a Summit order to complete tank mounting in my truck chest, etc. I have a week to prepare/test :)

Can you clarify why you need to turn off the nitrous before letting up at the end of a pull? I'll be using the hobbs so wouldn't letting off the throttle once I spin out or come to a stop do this automatically as boost falls ...or is that not soon enough? I also heard one wants to disengage tow/haul about the same time to keep from killing the engine. I can't do both and drive ...my nitrous activation switch is in the trippen overhead mount ...I would need another arm.

Becasue the fule will be at a min and all the spray may quench the motor. It probably wont blow it up but if it dont die it will sound like your truck swallowed a hand full of nails for a few seconds.....probably, it may blow the intake into orbit, I duno what will happen becasue I havent experimented nor do I wish to;). With boost you will still be swinging boost probably after you let off....maybe.....I duno if it will sut itself off in time??? The above is mostly theory/better safe than sorry,ect? I duno, I have purged the motor with the truck off by accidednt and it cranked and caughed and died, then started and sounded really nasty then evened out. With it wired on a WOT switch I know that the N2O will shut off in time and life will be dandy. I duno if basing it on boost if it will or not honestly its more of a better safe than sorry? Any way you could temprarily move your "arm" switch to a push button on a cord? Hold that in your right paw, hit the spray once you get some momentum, let off when you are about to spin out, turn off TH when you spin out?

Edit Off boost it may shut itself off in time??? I have NO idea.

I wonder what kind of hook they use that fits a 1" drawbar???

Aren't tractor drawbars 1"? Maybe they're sticking a big twisted clevis it it.

Hog, I'd imagine that if you're pulling in low range, where you need the power is gonna be when it hits 3rd gear. With the extreme, I'd imagine that you're going to blow through 1 and 2 pretty quick. I dunno, maybe the nitrous shortly after you hit 3rd and the motor bogs a bit?

I remember Tomac saying he holds 'er to 4000 rpm in 2nd and then manually puts it in 3.

Around here they require a 3" hole so you bring your own clevis...

Never pulled before but planning to in a few weeks at a local Harvest Festival/Truck pull gig in a small town nearby. Just got my SD nitrous kit last week and will be putting on shortly. In reading the pulling rules anything mods puts me in the modified class so it would seem it wouldn't matter if I ran with TTS extreme only or with NOS? Should I use NOS or is that a bad idea? I figured I might screw myself depending on the number of pulls I do and running out of NOS. If NOS is okay to use is there any strategy in using it ... I.e. pulling first without it and later with it? I'm a newbie to all this so I'm sure the questions speak for themselves :)

Decided to hit the NHRDA finals this last weekend thinking I was going to sled pull to get some practice. I ended up not pulling and only dragging ...came home with 2nd place trophy :) I raced 12+ times so I opted not to pull and give the truck a rest.

http://dieselplace.com/forum/showthread.php?t=24634&page=3

http://www.nhrda.com/

Good job on the second place!:ro)

Awesome Tophog!! Now your going to want more trophies to put next to the one you just got, I have a feeling we'll be seeing more threads from you soon!!!

Cheers, Wade

Saturday is the pull and it appears it's going to rain! Censored I think the track will be wet/slick so I *think* the advantage of power goes out the window? Any tips for pulling on a wet/slick track besides *good luck*? :)

Slick tracks require traction before you can apply power, so it looks like whoever has the best tires for bite will have the initial advantage. If it rains A/T's probably won't cut it...
One advantage of a slick track is that it can allow you to run a taller/meatier tire, or jump up a gear.


Saturday is the pull and it appears it's going to rain! Censored I think the track will be wet/slick so I *think* the advantage of power goes out the window? Any tips for pulling on a wet/slick track besides *good luck*? :)

Hopefully the track won't be "greasy" slick or muddy ...because all I got are my 295 BF AT KO's. I know I should add weight up front but not able to. I'm thinking my truck probably weighs around 7400 lbs with me in it and full tank of fuel so I probably have room for another 500-600 lbs before I exceed the 8000 lb limit.

Would it help if I put 500 lbs in the bed ...in my truck box just behind the cab or would I be better off not adding any weight to bed? I have airbags, caltrac traction bars and will be clamping rear leafs front/back. My hitch is right at the required 24" height limit.

Definently add the weight!!!

Ok, going to play it *safe* ...got me some "Safety Sand" :) LOL About 600 lbs between what's in the bed and box. If I'm over weight I'll start chucking bags. Game on ... :ro)

Ok, going to play it *safe* ...got me some "Safety Sand" :) LOL About 600 lbs between what's in the bed and box. If I'm over weight I'll start chucking bags. Game on ... :ro)

:ro) :ro) ..............:grd:

Good luck HOG.

You could aways hot wire your N2O into the horn relay in the fuse box, and use the horn button to activate it. Works for me, I keep my hands on the wheel and spray when the need arises.

Good luck HOG.

You could aways hot wire your N2O into the horn relay in the fuse box, and use the horn button to activate it. Works for me, I keep my hands on the wheel and spray when the need arises.

My first pull and will be a damp/wet one so I'm sticking to the Extreme and *safety sand* bags. If it's real wet I might wire a sand sprayer to my horn button for traction :)

Well it was fun but a little frustrating. I weighed in at 7925 lbs with the sand and hitch height was at the max 24". I was the first to pull in my class and did a full pull @ 322 feet shortly after it started raining cats/dogs. Crowd loved the smoke and power. They then halted pulling for about 30 minutes due to rain and track prep. The rest of the guys in my class (about 8 trucks) then completed their pulls but track was slicker then when I ran ...so I was summoned back to pull again :( Second pull was only 227 feet as all I did was spin. In the end they said I got 3rd place losing out to a 8.1 std cab who asked to pull in my class (WTF?). There was a lot of confusion about all this and everyone I spoke to said no one beat my 2nd pull ...but I still got 3rd. Oh well, it was fun but not very well organized. I had fun which is what counts most. :)

Well it was fun but a little frustrating. I weighed in at 7925 lbs with the sand and hitch height was at the max 24". I was the first to pull in my class and did a full pull @ 322 feet shortly after it started raining cats/dogs. Crowd loved the smoke and power. They then halted pulling for about 30 minutes due to rain and track prep. The rest of the guys in my class (about 8 trucks) then completed their pulls but track was slicker then when I ran ...so I was summoned back to pull again :( Second pull was only 227 feet as all I did was spin. In the end they said I got 3rd place losing out to a 8.1 std cab who asked to pull in my class (WTF?). There was a lot of confusion about all this and everyone I spoke to said no one beat my 2nd pull ...but I still got 3rd. Oh well, it was fun but not very well organized. I had fun which is what counts most. :)

Way to go TH!! Full pull :ro) :ro)