Hey guys what single tuner would i want for the most power? I have the va 200+ but am wondering if the ppe would be better as it raises the rev limiter. I am just looking for the most power out of one box. Thanks in advance.

I am in the same situation that you are and I will be trying the PPE box very soon. I will post results after the installing and trial runs. You will get more from the PPE box like you said as it does raise the rev limiter. My results are pending.

cool be sure and let me know how it goes!!

With the PPE and Hot Juice on 5x3 I had a nice dyno curve. And a very decent 1/4 mile time

Smooth power... really smooth. I have the ET Eliminator HOT. Shifts are very good at 3500++ RPMs.

NO DEFUEL at all is pretty cool

VA box is good too. RPMs are lower, power is good, not quite as smooth as the PPE when cranked to maximum and using cruise control

Other than that... no complaints

There's always door # 3. :D

a harness box wont rasie the speed limiter. This makes it usless as a stand alone high HP box for the strip. You need to stack if you want to be able to trap faster than 98. Raised rev limiter is also good.

I'm with Trippin ;)

With the PPE and Hot Juice on 5x3 I had a nice dyno curve. And a very decent 1/4 mile time

NO DEFUEL at all is pretty cool
what did you dyno with the two stacked

what did you dyno with the two stacked

549 rwhp. Only making 30 PSI of boost. Duramax +Dynojet = -:t

Dynojets might be better at consistancy but they don't load the engine.
But all trucks were same dyno same day. And a great time was had.

There is another thread where the Dyno boad is posted!

When yous say you have the Hot Juice at 5X3 what are you talking about???

When yous say you have the Hot Juice at 5X3 what are you talking about???

5x5= 5 low boost fuelling 5th power level

5x3= 5 low boost fuelling 3rd power level

Dont mean to steal the thread but I am also runnin the hot excelerator and looking into either to stack the Bully Dog setup, Banks 6 gun with pda display or the edge w/ attitude monitor.... PPE likes to push the duramaxzimizer stack but would like to have the digital out look screen capabilities.... what do you guys think

With the PPE and Hot Juice on 5x3 I had a nice dyno curve. And a very decent 1/4 mile time

Smooth power... really smooth. I have the ET Eliminator HOT. Shifts are very good at 3500++ RPMs.

NO DEFUEL at all is pretty cool

What was your 1/4 mile times with these settings?

Dont mean to steal the thread but I am also runnin the hot excelerator and looking into either to stack the Bully Dog setup, Banks 6 gun with pda display or the edge w/ attitude monitor.... PPE likes to push the duramaxzimizer stack but would like to have the digital out look screen capabilities.... what do you guys think

PPE works well with the Juice.


The other alternative is to run the TTS Extreme and have Steve set it up the way you want!

What was your 1/4 mile times with these settings?

There is another thread with times. I don't want to hijack this thread.
Look under event results for diesel thunder.

There is another thread with times. I don't want to hijack this thread.
Look under event results for diesel thunder.

Thanks. I check that out. (you have pm)

PPE works well with the Juice.


The other alternative is to run the TTS Extreme and have Steve set it up the way you want!

Lookin for the big power for the $$ would the Edge be the best and Power for the $$ truck will be pullin the sled and at the 1/4 mile track next year
Would the tts extreme have a digital out read gauge like the edge attitude monitor???

Lookin for the big power for the $$ would the Edge be the best and Power for the $$ truck will be pullin the sled and at the 1/4 mile track next year
Would the tts extreme have a digital out read gauge like the edge attitude monitor???

TTS Extreme does not have any readout. But it has proven to be the most powerful single module out there. Stacking will get you very close to that power, But stacks typically do not run as smoothly for street driving (throttle pedal sensetivity.)

Thanks. I check that out. (you have pm)

Back at ya

YGPM

TTS Extreme does not have any readout. But it has proven to be the most powerful single module out there. Stacking will get you very close to that power, But stacks typically do not run as smoothly for street driving (throttle pedal sensetivity.)


for exsesive tire wear or can it be controlled??????

this truck also a daily driver... what ya think??? What kind of power numbers would i be around with thtme both turned all the way up?

thanks for the reply's guys.... I do have a predator that I use to remove the speed limiter with the va 200+. Just looking for the best bang for the buck just like everyone else. I have not tried to stack the predator with the va on anything but the stock setting to correct the speedo and remove the speed limiter.

Off subject again, but have any of you ran the PPE and hot juice stack sled pulling? Just wondering how that worked out and what setting?

The Va Is A Very Strong Single Box The Only Down Side Like Everyone Has Said Is The Rev Limiter And Cant Ajust 98 Mph, Also Has Way To Much Timing To Stack With Anything Big. You Will Get Lots Of Bursting And Rattle With The Va Stacked , It Runs Way Better Byitself But If You Want To Go Competition You Need To Run Big Stack That Raises The Rev Limiter Or The Tts Extreme

I have talked a to few people who have said that you can stack the PPE with the VA. All you have to do is have the timing looped out of the PPE tuner and you will be fine. I am told it runs hard and smokes like a freight train, whether good or bad that is what I was told.

Off subject again, but have any of you ran the PPE and hot juice stack sled pulling? Just wondering how that worked out and what setting?

same thing as to what i am looking into!!!

hope your not in my area lol lol

I used the predator to remove the speed limiter only and set the KD VA 200+ to full tilt and dynoed 467/940.

for exsesive tire wear or can it be controlled??????

this truck also a daily driver... what ya think??? What kind of power numbers would i be around with thtme both turned all the way up?

Tire wear is a function of 'self control' when driving with the big tunes:o:

Power numbers.. on a stack depending on dyno should be around 470-500 RWHP @32 PSIG around 3000' ASL. Moving to sea level and better air would add some 10 hp or so.

As well, dyno CF will vary as will dyno's themselves. Dynojet=Most consistant but hardest to load with twins or build boost on.. but there are less variables to skew results

Load Dyno's Slightly less consistancy, BUT the benefit is the load will show a better more real life torque figure, and since the pull is longer you can build maximum boost.

My own .02 Both Dynos work equally well, Load dynos are easier to load a DMX on though with the Allison. She sometimes does not play nice on a djet.

I have talked a to few people who have said that you can stack the PPE with the VA. All you have to do is have the timing looped out of the PPE tuner and you will be fine. I am told it runs hard and smokes like a freight train, whether good or bad that is what I was told.

Hot PPE with timing looped and VA stacked worked very well. It does run hard and smoke is outstanding.
Links of smoke pics.
http://www.kydtr.com/coppermine/displayimage.php?album=48&pos=31




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what kind of VA were you stacking with it. Was all the timing takin out of the ppe.
What did it dyno

The VA was a 0/150/200+ Smartbox E.
The timing was looped out of the Extreme setting. Never did get the stack true dyno numbers. The PPE alone went 479/976 on a dynojet. By the time pulled the stack in hp fell off. Turned off the VA and power was still down. Too much heat build up and did not have additional dyno time. SOP feel with stack was much much stronger than PPE alone.

new to the game SOP stack??? ]

confused

SOP= Seat of the pants
Stack= A box and a programmer running at the same time

SOP= Seat of the pants
Stack= A box and a programmer running at the same time

not it is all begining to make sense!!!

when you stack a edge and a PPe do i have to worry about the injectors or turbo or anything to that sort

current setup
4" MBRP stainless all the way no cat
17" MKW wheels w/ 285/70r17 goodyear wrangler tires
PPE hot w/ boost valve
and PPE stage 4 tranny
PPE air intake ( not to sure if I like it or not)
soon to have eihter Duramaximizer or the Edge W/ attitude.

What ya think?

Close to 500RWHP. Should be seeing some decent 1/4 mile times.
You may throw an overboost code (P0234) unless you have the Juice Attitude hooked up. If my HJAT is not on low boost fuelling level 5 I can throw that code occasionally.

Turbocharger.... you have a mechanical gauge to monitor it yes?


Nice list of BOMBs:ro)

Don't waste your money on a Duramaximizer, it doesn't gain enough for the money.

Close to 500RWHP. Should be seeing some decent 1/4 mile times.
You may throw an overboost code (P0234) unless you have the Juice Attitude hooked up. If my HJAT is not on low boost fuelling level 5 I can throw that code occasionally.

Turbocharger.... you have a mechanical gauge to monitor it yes?


Nice list of BOMBs:ro)

can i rely enough on the the attitude monitor for the boost and turbo gauge or should one install a mechanical auto meter style gauge??

You will need a mech. gauge. IRC the attitude will only read to 25 psi.

You will need a mech. gauge. IRC the attitude will only read to 25 psi.

What he said.

Get a mechanical gauge installed!:eek:

Off subject again, but have any of you ran the PPE and hot juice stack sled pulling? Just wondering how that worked out and what setting?

I have run the PPE extreme with extreme timing stacked with the edge on 3/3, but prefere the PPEextreme 14degree timing tune stacked with the edge on 4/4 all with 25% injectors and no drop in rail pressure

thanks to the superdiesel CP3

Thanks bigd! I was wondering if anyone was going to reply. I don't have different injectors or turbo upgrades, so what would be the right setting for me?

Thanks bigd! I was wondering if anyone was going to reply. I don't have different injectors or turbo upgrades, so what would be the right setting for me? i ran extreme, extreme timing with edge on 3/3 before any hardpart upgrades, but then joe sent me the 14degree timing tune with extreme fuel and i was able to bump juice to 4/4 the seat of the pants meter told me that was the best i had felt so far, until the the fuel and air upgrades, all trucks are different keep that in mind, but if it doesn't miss or burst you might be on the right track its my belief that most "bursting issues" while stacking are from too much timing.

Thanks bigd! I was wondering if anyone was going to reply. I don't have different injectors or turbo upgrades, so what would be the right setting for me?

I am also interested.

Is there a trick to get both of them to work good togehter or just crank them all the way up on there highest settings allowed:help: ???

i ran extreme, extreme timing with edge on 3/3 before any hardpart upgrades, but then joe sent me the 14degree timing tune with extreme fuel and i was able to bump juice to 4/4 the seat of the pants meter told me that was the best i had felt so far, until the the fuel and air upgrades, all trucks are different keep that in mind, but if it doesn't miss or burst you might be on the right track its my belief that most "bursting issues" while stacking are from too much timing.


3/3 and 4/4 what is that mean?? new to the game.

also bursting issues??