PowerTanMan
06-16-2011, 09:54 PM
Any news on the 4.5? I'm really wanting/hoping to see this engine in half tons and Suburbans. Thats probably GMs biggest mistake was not putting Diesels in the Half tons, Suburbans, Tahoes/Yukons after 1999.
And from what I've read they'd only be a $4500-$5500 option (don't know how true that is). Thats what we need now, especially in the gas hog Suburbans. I would definitely buy one if they came out.
DmaxTDI
06-17-2011, 04:34 PM
Looks like they'll let it die on the vine. I'd guess with all the time passing and increased fuel costs they'll have to go back to the drawing board with a smaller displacement more fuel efficient engine.
PowerTanMan
06-17-2011, 10:51 PM
Looks like they'll let it die on the vine. I'd guess with all the time passing and increased fuel costs they'll have to go back to the drawing board with a smaller displacement more fuel efficient engine.
Thats a shame, it was a great concept. But I think it would be great if they did come up with a smaller engine, like 2-3 liter V6 or I4 deal. To be honest 4.5L V8 might be too much for just an economy motor. But I saw that article about Cummins and Nissan developing a 2.8L I4 for the Titan so maybe that will inspire GM to come up with something smaller, that would be the way to go.
Heartbeat Hauler
06-23-2011, 10:47 AM
Thats a shame, it was a great concept. But I think it would be great if they did come up with a smaller engine, like 2-3 liter V6 or I4 deal. To be honest 4.5L V8 might be too much for just an economy motor. But I saw that article about Cummins and Nissan developing a 2.8L I4 for the Titan so maybe that will inspire GM to come up with something smaller, that would be the way to go.
I completely agree with this! A V6 or inline 4 would be great and it would fit more models not just the 1500 trucks. I'm all for horsepower but I would like to see way better fuel mileage. If GM would come up with a 1500/Colorado with a small diesel making 25/35 city/highway mpg in the 150 -170hp, 300-350ft lbs. range, I would defintely rethink my "No more new GM vehicles" stance.
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05longbed
06-24-2011, 02:44 PM
They have Colorado diesels overseas and in S. America, they just need to make them meet our stupid mainly political emmisions standards
happycamper_ron
07-14-2011, 12:31 PM
GM is bringing over a diesel for the Cruze. Slap a couple of them in a 1500 and you are ready to go?
05longbed
07-18-2011, 10:04 AM
I think it is a 2.0 liter, that wont quite do well in a 1500
chevyman_2000
07-21-2011, 12:16 PM
GM is bringing over a diesel for the Cruze. Slap a couple of them in a 1500 and you are ready to go?
Anymore news on this? This I would buy!
Chev.
MTU alum
07-22-2011, 02:27 PM
CEO Confirms Chevy to Sell Diesel Cruze in U.S. – USA Today
By James R. Healey
July 22, 2011
General Motors will sell a diesel version of the Chevrolet Cruze compact car in the U.S., GM CEO Dan Akerson says.
Planned for introduction in 2013, it would be the first Detroit passenger-vehicle diesel since the 2006 Jeep Liberty CRD sport-utility, and the first diesel car from Detroit since the 1980s.
A U.S. diesel Cruze has been the subject of heavy speculation, but was unconfirmed until now.
"I drove it the other day. It is great," Akerson said in an interview with USA TODAY. "These new diesels are quiet. Should make it in the low- to mid-40s, and that's with an automatic," the CEO said, referring to the likely fuel economy rating with an automatic transmission.
The only U.S.-market compact car with a diesel now is the Volkswagen Jetta. With an automatic transmission, it is rated 30 mpg in town, 42 on the highway.
Diesel engines get 20% to 40% better mileage than similar-size gasoline engines, alluring to automakers trying to meet tightening U.S. fuel-economy regulations. But diesel fuel in the U.S. lately has averaged 5% to 10% more than regular gas. Also, diesel engines are costlier than gas engines, and require complex emissions gear, boosting the price of diesel vehicles.
GM's gasoline-engine Chevy Cruze Eco with automatic is rated 39 mpg on the highway, so a diesel would have to deliver significantly better than that to justify a higher-price car burning more expensive fuel.
"Generally, I think it's a good thing, but maybe way ahead of what the market's ready for," says Jack Nerad, executive market analyst for Kelley Blue Book's kbb.com. Not only is diesel fuel more expensive, it's not sold by every service station, he notes. "And a lot of people still have the misconception that diesel is smelly, loud, sooty — what city buses were 20 years ago."
Nevertheless, Nerad says, a diesel Cruze is smart marketing: "The fuel economy number they can point to probably is a good one."
GM wouldn't hint at pricing or give other details about the diesel Cruze because it is more than a year off. A Jetta diesel with automatic is $24,865.
Diesel backers believe a diesel in a popular, mainstream car such as Cruze finally could be a breakthrough in the historically diesel-averse U.S., convincing other automakers to modify their overseas diesels to meet U.S. regulations and offer the diesels here, too.
GM is at least considering packaging the diesel in a hatchback version of Cruze sold overseas.
Akerson offered some other hints of GM's powertrain future, citing electric vehicles and those fueled by clean-burning compressed natural gas (CNG): "We're going to introduce battery-only vehicles…CNG vehicles. Stay tuned. This is not the old GM."
Nissan's Leaf is the only mainstream battery car sold in the U.S. GM's Chevy Volt is an extended-range electric that goes about 35 miles on batteries, then switches on a gasoline engine to generate more electricity for the batteries so Volt can keep running when a plug-in recharge isn't available.
Diesels are common in much of the world because many countries heavily tax fuel to encourage sales of fuel-efficient vehicles such as diesels. Gasoline prices in major European countries this month, for example, have averaged around $8 a gallon, according to the U.S. Energy Information Administration. Diesel runs from slightly more to 15% less.
Cruze was the best-selling car in the country last month. Japanese companies normally dominate the top-seller list, but were short of cars because of interruptions in parts flow after the March 11 earthquake and tsunami in Japan.
For the first six months of this year, Cruze is the seventh-best-selling car.
chevyman_2000
07-23-2011, 02:03 AM
Well then. There we have it.
Chev.
sadolph
07-27-2011, 07:09 PM
Ideally a Suburban with a decent small diesel V8 or V6. Not a 4 in my mind. I need to tow about 7000lbs, only periodically. My 2500HD is too much truck. And it really has too much power for my needs. Sometimes it is downright shocking how quickly I can move in that big hunk of metal.
johnny62
07-30-2011, 04:00 PM
make it a 3.0l v6 like the audi q7 with 245 hp and it will get god mpg. around 30mpg in the audi q7. and a smal 6 speed allison to it and it will be grate in suburbans tahoe vans and 1500 trucks
clevy
08-03-2011, 11:37 PM
i heard dodge has theirs made and are ready to put it in production, hopefully they do an it makes gm get it goin