2500hd duramax
08-26-2005, 11:29 PM
I have a 2006 duramax, and being that gm changes their diesel engines every yr. now w/a new one (LBZ) on the way, it seems that as soon as you get your new truck your already outdated, and anybody that buys a diesel knows your paying in the 40k-50k range for your truck and you can't always keep up w/ these changes. With that being said, does anybody or will anybody have a programmer for my truck?
thanks for the help fellas.
Not that I'm aware of right now :(
Was one of the reasons we drove 500 miles round trip last week to pick up an 05
briano
08-27-2005, 09:42 AM
since you still have the LLY then I'd think most programmers/tuners will still work. they didn't change anything in the computer until the LBZ which right now there is nothing available. Check with the manufacturers first though.
Kennedy
08-27-2005, 10:06 AM
Actually, I am told that the 2006 LLY is actually a lbz and will grow up to be a LBZ mid year. 06 LLY/lbz is said to be a junior LBZ
Max Power
08-27-2005, 10:10 AM
That's what I have been told as well. You can bet it will be a LONG wait for programmers because manufacturers will wait for the full blown LBZ to see if they can make one box work for both. Give it a year.
RickDLance
08-27-2005, 01:04 PM
I also read the changed the fuel system??? That would keep current programers from working.
briano
08-27-2005, 02:39 PM
I thought the LBZ used a completely different computer? they must have it on the LLY for 06 as well.. thanks for the clarification.
McRat
08-27-2005, 02:55 PM
The new engine does not have a fuel injection control module. The new Bosch-made PCM incorporates it.
Probably the first thing you are going to see is a harness box. ECM tunes might be quite awhile in the future.
McRat
08-27-2005, 03:01 PM
If it's any consolation, the LBZ is going to have FAR more potential than the LB7 and LLY. The trans is going to hold more power, the top speed will be higher, and the engine is mechanically stronger. Higher fuel pressure and a new turbo will add potential too. For guys who want to run huge boost numbers with twins or big singles, the lower compression will help as well.
Max Payne
08-27-2005, 03:27 PM
Below is a copy/paste of one of the major differences of the 06 LLY vs. previous LLYs:
The control functions for the fuel injection system are integrated in the engine control module (ECM). During the manufacturing process, each injector's flow rate is measured and recorded as injection quantity adjustment (IQA) flow rate data. The flow rate data is then etched as a hexadecimal number on the body of the injector. This data, together with the injector's cylinder position, is stored in the memory of both the glow plug control module (GPCM) and the ECM. When the ignition is turned ON, both the GPCM and the ECM monitor to ensure that the fuel injection flow rate numbers are present. If any of the injector flow rate numbers are missing, the diagnostic for that control module will set the appropriate DTC.
Diesel Tech
08-27-2005, 09:52 PM
All '06 Duramax's have the new Bosch ECM. The LLY is the same as the current LLY with the addition of the '06 components on the outside of the engine. They do not have the new block, new heads, and new pistons. The rumor is the camshaft is different as well. The odds that a tuner will work for both is pretty far off but one box that will tune both with different tuneup isn't far off the mark. The in-line boxes will not work since they took the ECM signals and modified them before the EDU in the old system and the new system does not have an EDU. About all that may work would be a pressure box but with the pressure already raised from the factory they may not do much. The all new ECM and controls will take awhile to work out, but it will get done.