As requested, here are some pics of the 2006 airbox.:)

And a few more.

Now, that is cool!!! Thanks for the pics.

Is the intake in the fender, for the cold air, or does it bring in air from the engine bay.

I wonder what the price of that filter is, looks expensive to me!

It looks like the fender opening channels air in from behind the headlight area. The two tubes both look like water drains, one befor the filter in the finned area and one just in front of and below the filter.

Cool. I'll bet that filter is expensive!

Wonder if we can retro-fit that to an 05?????

I wonder if we can retro-fit it to the 04.5....

Ya, & I wonder if it can be retro fitted to the '02!

I wonder what the price of that filter is, looks expensive to me!
I was thinking the same thing. I bet it allows alot of air into the engine though.

WOW,

nice pics, Thanks very much!

C:cool::cool:L!

I think AFE may want their design back....

Now, lets find SPICER and have him do a flow test on that thing!

I wonder if it will retrofit onto an '03? :lol:

Hey,

My Dads 2005 Freightliner Business Class M2 112 ( MBE 4000 ) has the same style of filter in it...... Just spoke to my Dad, apparently this style of filter lets alot more air in, but also filters more out. Hopefully no more overheating!!

See you

Will

C:cool::cool:L!

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Now, lets find SPICER and have him do a flow test on that thing!

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LOL

Those Damn Little Dinky A$$ Tires.

What type of filter is that, oiled foam, dry pleat, oiled cloth????

Brockway--- Great pictures, thanks a lot for those...One question tho...How did you get an SLT with no OnStar or XM?? I noticed the lack of an OnStar and XM antennas on the roof...

---Ben

The OnStar pkg is $700 optional on SLT.
The XM pkg is $320 optional on SLT.
The OnStar Plus pkg (with XM) is $1020 on SLT and has a single antenna.

Neither are std equipment for 2006, even on SLT.
BTW, I like the steel gray!

...the new "employee pricing" program, LOL

New tow mirrors (cipa) for 06

What type of filter is that, oiled foam, dry pleat, oiled cloth????

was that a joke? This is an oem man!

I ordered the truck at the end of June and didn't need the On-star or XM Radio so I saved some money and didn't get those options. Picked it up Wednesday with the GM discount available through a relative and also got the $2000 rebate. When I heard the LBZs weren't coming until later this year I thought about not taking it but decided I didn't want to wait to order another one plus there probably wouldn't be a rebate.

Those Damn Little Dinky A$$ Tires.


Those tires are coming off as soon as the H2 rims I bought on Ebay get here and are getting replaced with 285x70xR17 BFG ATs!:muahaha:
Also got a set of Autometer Cobalt gauges with overhead mount on the way.:grd:

nice choice of rims. 285's? Best mileage out there on the five speed. Should be good on the 6, IMO. JMO

Congrats

Whats with the slanted fins? Are they trying to swirl the air? Looks like GM bought into the tornado.:joke:

That filter looks like the ones that come in the new Furds. Seems like it would be more restrictive than the old design. Only time will tell.

donaldson powercore filter media... that stuff flows very well and filters to like 99.95%...

link to PDF file on donaldson's website about the powercore media (http://www.donaldson.com/en/engine/support/datalibrary/001220.pdf)

It's a Donaldson PowerCore filter. New technology that works.

Straight-through air flow
Less Restriction
Increased Capacity
Increased Efficiency (99.95%)
Increased holding capacity per volume
Three times more efficient than the industry leading cellulose element
Utilizes RadialSeal™ sealing for easy service

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On edit.... nick you posted same time as me

Nice work Nick and Hoot. Look like Kn and afe are out of luck if the real world is as good as the paper.

If it's Donaldson it should filter good and have good airflow.
Lots of heavy duty offroad stuff uses Donaldson airfilters.

awsome, hope it retrofits!

Those Damn Little Dinky A$$ Tires.
Ya... I've only had my truck for a week and got so sick of the neighbor's cat not being able to walk under my 4x4 that I slapped a set of 285 KO's on this afternoon.
9 turns on the rods and it finally looks like a truck.

Ya... that air filter looks like the CO2 scrubber out of a rebreather (or space shuttle). Looks expensive.
Looks like this truck is going to cost quite a bit more to maintain than my Tundra. I guess it's time to start paying attention to recommended service intervals rather than the way I did the Tundra... air filter every 15k whether it needed it or not. $20 was easy to handle for that one.

Ford uses the Donaldson type. It sells for around $62

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Ya, & I wonder if it can be retro fitted to the '02!

I wondered if the filter technology could be a drop-in replacement on my '03. According to the Donaldson web site

https://dynamic.donaldson.com/webc/WebStore/search/item_detail.html?item=201802

they make filters for the older D-Maxes. For '01 - '04 it looks like a Donaldson P602657.

Next problem; where to buy. Looks like you have to be a registered distributor to buy on Donaldson's web site, so I did the 'Where to Buy' link and found that in Denver, Stewart & Stevenson is their distributor. It's too early on a Saturday morning for them to be open, but I'm going to check if they have one and will let me check it out. If it looks as cool as the '06 one, I'll pick it up and see how it does.

Wow, thanks Brockway for going the distance for us. It looks like this might be really expensive to retro to an LLY or LB7. I bet GM sells it only with the mass-airflow sensor, which would make this upgrade a really expensive one. I am working to get prices on this conversion as soon as my dealer gets part number updates. More to come.

If anybody has an 06' and lives in so cal, maybe we can get together sometime and swap them out to see if it will fit? Better wait till I get prices first, it might be 800 plus with the sensor.

The air filter in the 7.3 Powerstroke I had was made by the same company (Donaldson) out of the exact same material, it was just rectagle in shape and maybe half the size. The filter cost me $85.00 to replace http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_1_10.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZSYYYYYYYYUS)JUST THE FILTER!!!!!! They are a great filter and hold up for quite a while but when it came time to replace it the second time I just bought an aftermarket intake for it.





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would like to hear the cost of a retrofit to an '03 LB7 myself.

*anxiously awaits part #s.

"Whats with the slanted fins? Are they trying to swirl the air? Looks like GM bought into the tornado."

Probably a cyclone separator. Spinning the incoming air throws the larger particales to the outside, thereby filtering them out. Just a guess,

I think you're right, the larger tube coming off the bottom of the airbox connects right behind the slanted fins and had some big bugs in the bottom of it.

I think you're right, the larger tube coming off the bottom of the airbox connects right behind the slanted fins and had some big bugs in the bottom of it.

I like to collect those bugs then put them in my wife's desk drawer at work, then watch as she flys straight up out of her chair screaming and poops a twinkie. Then I get punched of course.

June is the best time, those June bugs are a hoot. And they ALWAYS fly right at you. She just loves that.

Dude, that's not right. But funny as hell.

Brockway,

so that tube is for collecting heavies and draining water, correct?

Can you tell me, after close examination, is all the intake air coming from the 2 fender holes?

Or is there another source from the bottom?

nice pics, but i think i'll keep my current stocker

I don't know if any body has mentioned this I didn't see it anyware but I think the swirl fins are used to spin dirt and bugs away from the filtering area. I see this all the time on air compressors some have the vains on the outside of the filter and some are built into the housing just like the one shown.

Brockway,

so that tube is for collecting heavies and draining water, correct?

Can you tell me, after close examination, is all the intake air coming from the 2 fender holes?

Or is there another source from the bottom?

That is correct, there is a big tube just below and behind the fins and a smaller one just before the filter. They both have a soft rubber seal on the end that would be sucked closed under vacuum. The airbox has a rubber seal on the end that presses against the fender and that is the only opening in the airbox.

Thanks

athere has been a lot of discussion that the fender holes shown are not enough surface area to supply the d-max without excessive resistance.

One more time. Are you sure one of the tubes that pokes below, is not for supplemental air demand?

Thanks for your patience.

One more time. Are you sure one of the tubes that pokes below, is not for supplemental air demand?

Thanks for your patience.

They put those on all of our equipment and all the agricultural equipment I have see for the 40+ years and I've always been told it was dirt, leaves, and ect.

Upon closer examination, there is a sealed channel about an inch wide that also brings in air from directly behind the headlight outside of the fender. The rubber strip in blue seals the airbox to the fender along the top, back, and bottom. The foam in red seals the channel against a strip on the radiator bulkhead. The piece in grean seals the top of the channel, and the area in yellow is where the air can flow in through the channel.

I did some thread searches, but without any real results ... I'm hoping someone can answer this ...

Will the '06 air box and piping retro-fit onto the '05s? '04.5s? LB7s?

If so, what will it cost for all the parts as ordered through GM?

Anyone?

Yes

About $400+. There is no charted test results on this airbox to date. Noone knows if it is an effective cold air source, though no doubt better than the stock pre-06 box.

Jason, get someone to put a spectrally selective film on your windshield. You will be shocked how comfy your seats will be. 110 here, and my leather seats never scald.

But they did at one time.

I would hesitate to be so quick to say "yes" unless you've seen it done.
The intake was rerouted. The CAC outlet now goes directly up and the airbox outlet wraps behind it. The intake manifold is about an inch taller in cross-section and now curves FORWARD to meet the pipe coming up from the CAC.
The whole induction system was redesigned.

The airbox itself may be a drop-in from the MAF forward, but there's definitely changes from the MAF back that may not drop right in. The size, shape, and routing of that tube could make a difference.

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you are right. Premature.

My wife works at Donaldson's here in Iowa. They build the Power Core filters here. They are really tight lipped about the technology, employees had to sign waivers and they keep the lines closed in with curtains so no visitors can steal secrets.They're working overtime like crazy so they can keep everybody happy. Wife is not happy about it at all. Supposed to be some fantastic technology with patents and all. Jeff

How's that going to help them when all Fram has to do is go to the GM dealer and buy one to reverse-engineer?

As far as that goes, I give it less than 6 months after the LBZ is released until someone has a standard paper filter that will plug into the '06 airbox.

Jason, get someone to put a spectrally selective film on your windshield. You will be shocked how comfy your seats will be. 110 here, and my leather seats never scald.

But they did at one time.

Well, it's off topic, but now I'm curious. Spectrally selective film? Is that a fancy name for tinting film or something else? Do you happen to have a link for information and/or purchase source? I'm assuming it's something I could do myself.

Returning to topic ... I saw elsewhere that you are trying to gather air boxes to do a comparative analysis to determine how effective they are and how well they "pull" cold air. I'm eager to hear any results and will continue to keep an eye on that work. Excellent effort.

It's not a DIY project very touchy stuff. Sprectrally selective the trademark "heat mirror" film mad by MMM and GE and CPFilms. There are others.

You won't find it on the shelf anywhere I am aware of. I get mine through a source but I am not a dealer.

Yes it is a tint, that is nearly clear, a 72%-80% VLT (transmittance), cuts glare and make night driving even better. It filter's out most f the IR spectrum, leaving the visible intact.

O.K. not DIY. Where can I have it installed? Any window and tint shop or a truck accessories shop or is it more exclusive than that?

Danny's carousel (car wash here) does it, but because it is still against some dino law to tint the windshield, you need a friend or a doctor script for it for an eye or skin condition.

Other tint shops will do it if you pay cash, but will not have space age film, just use the lightest available. Caution, if you have a GPS antenne in the dash, careful about metal films. It may not recieve signal any more. May also interfere with cell calls also, but not sure on this.

If my ten years experience serve me correctly, Donaldson supplied the Vee-Pacs ( air filters) for the Abrams XM1- M1A2 SEP Abrams series of tanks. The air induction system of the Abrams uses a vortex inducing system to "spin off" the heavier particulate, which gets sucked away by a auxilary fan unit. The key here is that the intake vaccum and the "bypass" fan vaccum have to equal in pressure. If not, then the intake would suck up everything, and clog the filters prematurly. Like within the first twenty miles or so!

Seems like GM is slowly trying to turn these things into tanks. We've already got the tranny, add a set of Mattracks, thermal imaging from a Cadillac, and a visit to our local gunsmith to mount a 120mm smoothbore to the bed of our truck, voila. Tallk about turbo whine!