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: Where to find or how to build traction bars for sled pulling and racing?


brett6.6
08-22-2005, 10:29 PM
i just would like some info on the different types i can get and difficulty of installing them. ive seen the caltracs how are they and how hard is the install . thanks Brett

LBZ DMAX
08-22-2005, 10:33 PM
PITA to install!:exactly: A good helper would be useful along with good tools. Definitely doable, be lots of banging (if you don't want to remove the leaf spring). It took me and Sandsuby probably about 3 hours to do the project, couldn't have done it without him!:grd:

Trippin
08-23-2005, 05:20 AM
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dmaxalliTech
08-23-2005, 09:10 AM
I used a set of Cal Tracs and they even made them longer for me so I could use them on a lifted truck. Seem to be working very well so far, but truck only has a few hooks on it.

bigd
08-30-2005, 11:54 AM
for pulling the longer the better pm gray max he can hook you up

ratlover
08-30-2005, 12:20 PM
Caltracks are an easy install if you have the right tools and know a few tricks

ratlover
08-30-2005, 12:39 PM
oh, I have no idea how a longer bar works compared to a shorter bar for pulling ect??? I do know that the caltracs are VERY adjustable and you can adjust how the react in tons of different ways.

Also traction bars from anyone may look pricey till you look at what it would cost to build em. Ever priced out a Chromoly HIEMS? You'll have around 80$ in just them.

And what ever bars you get lube the ever living crap outa everything with anti sieze ;)

JRmac
09-01-2005, 01:16 PM
Longer is better!

ratlover
09-01-2005, 01:24 PM
Not arguing becasue I'm interested to hear why......

Why is longer better?

bigd
09-01-2005, 04:18 PM
leverage

ratlover
09-01-2005, 05:21 PM
Leverage to do what?

dmaxlover
09-01-2005, 07:54 PM
If you make your own and plan to run them all the time use poly bushings on both ends. Hiem joints will do a better job but since there is no play, every bump in the road can be felt through the frame. I am speaking from experience. Mine are made from 1-1/2 soild round bar and about 6ft long.

Kennedy
10-03-2005, 12:27 PM
In the case of the Caltracs, the length of the bar is only a function of fit as they connect the same A and B points. Spring arch/lift will affect the length of the motion bar needed.

The first set of Caltracs for a 2500HD were installed on BMDMAX's truck at my direction and have been working awesome ever since. I'd like to thank Brandon for sticking with the project as the dimensions for the spring eye bushing originally used were incorrect. This left Brandon waiting for a correct sized (based on measurements that he provided) set of bushings. My install was a piece of cake with the proper sized bushings!;)

moss022
10-03-2005, 10:47 PM
if i had 1 foot of XX pipe, not easy to bend. if i had 5 ft of the same stuff easier to bend right? leverage??? if you want them to be level with the ground then you have to go longer.

DMF Dmax
10-03-2005, 11:18 PM
Single arm trac bars are mounted to the bottom of the axle are subjected to pulling forces, not pushing when used for pulling/racing/launching. As such any decent size bar woll not bend. For a bar to bend it has to be very light. This may or may not apply to Caltracs, I'm not sure of their geometry.

ynot
10-04-2005, 12:11 AM
I'll take Caltracs anyday. 1 1/2 hour install and they adjust to any load situation or back completely off with a 10" Crescent. Look good LineX'd too. I think they're 1 1/4" x 3/16" wall cold role and 1 1/4" deep thread recievers with 3/4" hiems. Pretty tuff stuff for what they do but ya need 3/4" fine lefty jam nuts added to the bottom to keep the threads clean, and spray greese to keep the hiem balls from rattlin when they're backed all the way off (like all of em that aren't solid)...T

dmaxlover
10-04-2005, 12:12 AM
Single arm trac bars are mounted to the bottom of the axle are subjected to pulling forces, not pushing when used for pulling/racing/launching. As such any decent size bar woll not bend. For a bar to bend it has to be very light. This may or may not apply to Caltracs, I'm not sure of their geometry.

You got it backwards. When the tires are spinning forwards, the axle is counteracting, which wants to go backwards, or the pinion is going up. Therefore the bottom of the axle is going towords the front of the truck, which in turn is putting compression on the bars, not tension. My traction bars are 1.5" in diameter solid, and about 5 ft long. I have had no problems whats so ever.

moss022
10-04-2005, 08:44 PM
SOLID?? not good for racing? get that pig on a diet. mine will be

dmaxlover
10-04-2005, 08:59 PM
SOLID?? not good for racing? get that pig on a diet. mine will be

When the pig already weighs 7500 lbs. An extra 75 isn't going to make much of a differance.:D

Kennedy
10-04-2005, 10:47 PM
When the pig already weighs 7500 lbs. An extra 75 isn't going to make much of a differance.:D

Too fat to fly is the way I see it. There's no way mine will be light either...

moss022
10-05-2005, 07:14 PM
you got me there john